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And the Liberal voters sure as poo poo aren't going to strategically vote for the NDP so gently caress that noise
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Sep 15, 2021 04:44
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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"Strategic voting" in Canada is always "vote for the Liberals". Every single time. Almost uncanny how that works out, really.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:47
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So apparently the process for medical exemptions with the Ontario vaccine passport is "have your doctor write a note, give it to the 16 year old host at a restaurant to verify, no vaccination records or official government docs required, oh and no liability or responsibility on the restaurant if it's not legit". Homeopaths are going to do big business writing exemptions come September 22nd.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:50
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It all makes so much sense that people are angry at JWR for having the integrity to blow the whistle on JT when you see how much slobber they can work up over Chretien, forgetting adscam ever happened.
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Sep 15, 2021 04:58
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half cocaine posted:It all makes so much sense that people are angry at JWR for having the integrity to blow the whistle on JT when you see how much slobber they can work up over Chretien, forgetting adscam ever happened. lol integrity, you know she was a Federal Liberal cabinet minister right?
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Sep 15, 2021 05:00
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half cocaine posted:It all makes so much sense that people are angry at JWR for having the integrity to blow the whistle on JT when you see how much slobber they can work up over Chretien, forgetting adscam ever happened. I still have fond memories of Chrétien in spite of lying about not implementing the gst during the election in the 90’s, and the corruption. He had personality which so many lack these days.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:36
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infernal machines posted:"Strategic voting" in Canada is always "vote for the Liberals". Every single time. That's only because the right wing parties in Canada eventually merge into a mega Conservative party after they split the vote a few too many times.
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Sep 15, 2021 05:53
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Maybe the Greens and NDP should merge into the Radical Action Democratic Initiative Caucus Alliance Legion.
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Sep 15, 2021 06:06
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Hamelekim posted:I still have fond memories of Chrétien in spite of lying about not implementing the gst during the election in the 90’s, and the corruption. He had personality which so many lack these days. Yeah I really miss the good old days when politicians had charisma. Adolf Hitler for example. Poor guy has been crucified by history over his beer hall putsch.
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Sep 15, 2021 06:14
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half cocaine posted:Yeah I really miss the good old days when politicians had charisma. Adolf Hitler for example. Poor guy has been crucified by history over his beer hall putsch. He wasn't any worse than any other past or present prime minister.
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Sep 15, 2021 06:16
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half cocaine posted:It all makes so much sense that people are angry at JWR for having the integrity to blow the whistle on JT when you see how much slobber they can work up over Chretien, forgetting adscam ever happened. Chrétien was also minister of Indian affairs during the 60s scoop and pushed a white paper that proposed the abolition of all treaties with indigenous people in order to “assimilate” them. People change and he gets a lot of credit for ending residential schools 25 years later, but he should probably still have his day in The Hague, at the very least to reveal how much he, PET, and others knew about the ongoing genocide. It’s a good zinger though lol nothing wrong with admitting that. But you’d think he’d be trying to avoid the public eye in light of all that’s been unveiled over the past year. Starks fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 15, 2021 |
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Sep 15, 2021 06:28
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Hamelekim posted:He wasn't any worse than any other past or present prime minister. Ah, yes, mindless equivocation, a time-honoured political tradition  Starks posted:Chrétien was also minister of Indian affairs during the 60s scoop and pushed a white paper that proposed the abolition of all treaties with indigenous people in order to “assimilate” them. He also maintained the radical cuts to federal housing that Mulroney passed in his last lame-duck budget, and was responsible for the Employment Insurance Act in 1996 which cut back the accessibility of unemployment benefits. Jam Band Death Cult fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Sep 15, 2021 |
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Sep 15, 2021 10:18
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Starks posted:Chrétien was also minister of Indian affairs during the 60s scoop and pushed a white paper that proposed the abolition of all treaties with indigenous people in order to “assimilate” them. I didn't know that. Thanks. I can't wait to bust this nugget out when he dies and the hagiograohies are sweatily pooped out. ha ha yes I like pepper on my plate ha ha best pm ever
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Sep 15, 2021 12:49
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Where does the term (for the Liberals? The current government?) ‘grits’ come from? I’ve never heard that one before and could use a little trivia
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Sep 15, 2021 13:44
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The "Clear Grit Party" joined what became the Liberals at confederation; they fancied themselves people who were "All sand and no dirt, just clear grit" why do i remember this and not where i put my keys Then again it is an odd thing to say. All sand and no dirt? Sand IS dirt.
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Sep 15, 2021 13:56
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Capital Letdown posted:Where does the term (for the Liberals? The current government?) ‘grits’ come from? Yeah the nicknames are basically obscurist ancient references. I'm sure most people know Tory as descended from English traditionalism and further back from some bizarre historical reference in a similar manner as Whigs. I guess Dipper is just a boring shortening of NDP. Seems apropos for the NDP to be honest.
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Sep 15, 2021 14:12
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Arc Hammer posted:I have a sinking feeling we're going to see a lot of crazies getting arrested at the polls on Monday after they start smashing poo poo and refusing to mask up. My wife used to work the Federal elections, the last one she worked, they didn't even have a supervisor at their location, let alone a security guard. She just straight up told them to gently caress off when they did the regular "It's time for another federal election, did you want to work it?" phonecall.
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Sep 15, 2021 14:13
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Blood Boils posted:Re: strategic voting gently caress strategic voting (I want the cons to lose but not by having the NDP jumping on a grenade the liberals threw at their own feet) but while that article goes into details about ways that strategic voting failed in 2008, 2011 and 2015, it doesn't do so for 2019 the election that feels the most applicable to this one. The liberals won a lot of close ridings despite the conservatives outperforming the polls in terms of votes which would suggest to me that strategic voting did work (for the liberals) in that instance, but I guess we'll see in 5 days.
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Sep 15, 2021 15:21
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Randalor posted:My wife used to work the Federal elections, the last one she worked, they didn't even have a supervisor at their location, let alone a security guard. She just straight up told them to gently caress off when they did the regular "It's time for another federal election, did you want to work it?" phonecall. My mom is the manager at a poll location but won’t answer questions about dominion voting systems with “actually we just give all the ballots to Trudeau and let him count them “ I’m genuinely worried about election/count day. There are a lot of lunatics who think an 80% blue riding matters in any way. She has been told they have found Facebook pages of groups who signed up to work the polls simply to be disruptive and have already removed one guy who was trying to get everybody to debate him. flakeloaf posted:The "Clear Grit Party" joined what became the Liberals at confederation; they fancied themselves people who were "All sand and no dirt, just clear grit" It makes sense because when you think dirt you think nurturing and sustaining. When you think sand you think Irritating and gets into places it isn’t supposed to.
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Sep 15, 2021 15:26
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Spokesman for PPC candidates in Kingston does an AMA on Reddit. It went great! https://www.reddit.com/r/KingstonOntario/comments/poadv7/peoples_party_of_canada_kingston_ama_starts_now/?web_redirect=true
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Sep 15, 2021 16:09
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Ego-bot posted:Spokesman for PPC candidates in Kingston does an AMA on Reddit. It went great! Wow, and that’s not even related to the PPC candidate who was revealed yesterday to have made a video game where you explicitly shoot ethnic minorities and LGBT people AND an RPG about the Columbine shooters.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:32
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Having worked the advance polls over the weekend I can say that it was a bit of a poo poo show just on account of the mask mandates getting changed every day. We started on Friday (in Edmonton, where the municipality has made masks mandatory for all indoor public places) turning people away who refused to put a mask on, giving them an address for where they could go and cast their ballot. Later that day we were informed by Elections Canada we couldn't turn them away, we had to let them in, just don't call attention to it or make a fuss. This was mostly the same on Saturday but we only had 1 or 2 individuals out of several hundred and they didn't cause a scene. On Sunday we were informed by the operators of the building we were set up in that a face covering of some form would be required as we were operating in a Senior Living building and they did not like strangers without masks within the premises. Again, not a huge deal as there were only a couple people that were refusing, the larger issue was trying to get people to stop commenting on who people should vote for, though our CPS was good at handling those scenarios. On Monday we were told again by our RO that we could not turn away anyone with exemption letters, and that would override what the building operators were telling us to do. We still only had 1 person attempt to raise a fuss so we lucked out but overall this was the most trying election I've worked and I'm kinda glad I'm not working on election day. Also, whole lotta people were under the impression we were volunteers, I wonder if this is why EC is kinda understaffed this time
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Sep 15, 2021 16:36
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nine-gear crow posted:Wow, and that’s not even related to the PPC candidate who was revealed yesterday to have made a video game where you explicitly shoot ethnic minorities and LGBT people AND an RPG about the Columbine shooters.  if you were already voting for this fuckin tool, that news would not change your mind
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Sep 15, 2021 16:37
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"Strategic" is such a lovely word anyway. Strategy is just applying resources to meet your goal, yet the phrase "strategic voting" always seems to be based on the same goal, of the Liberals beating the Conservatives. If you are voting to try to accomplish something, including, say, the NDP beating the Libs and Cons both, then that is by definition "strategic," it's just a strategy aimed at a goal different from what the general media is targeting.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:38
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nine-gear crow posted:Wow, and that’s not even related to the PPC candidate who was revealed yesterday to have made a video game where you explicitly shoot ethnic minorities and LGBT people AND an RPG about the Columbine shooters. He didn’t make the Columbine RPG just the game where you shoot minorities
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Sep 15, 2021 16:40
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PittTheElder posted:And the Liberal voters sure as poo poo aren't going to strategically vote for the NDP so gently caress that noise Well, they certainly should in the ridings where the NDP are the best chance to unseat a Conservative. I have no particular love for either the Liberals or the NDP, but I do think the Liberal candidate has a better chance to defeat the conservative in my riding, so I will vote for the Liberal candidate. If I thought the NDP candidate had a better chance, I would likewise vote for them without hesitation.
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Sep 15, 2021 16:46
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flakeloaf posted:
I thought the ppc was just facebook brainrotted boomers but it's got chan morons as well. Very diverse party. oh lol this guy's a fuckin teacher 
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Sep 15, 2021 16:57
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Ontario's fiscal watchdog says the province didn't spend any money from a new $2.7 billion COVID-19 response program in the first quarter. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-didn-t-spend-money-from-covid-19-response-program-in-first-quarter-watchdog-1.5586370 And where did most of that cash end up, I wonder.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:21
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Calgary-Centre is blanketed in Farkas and Greg McLean signs, my neighbor works on the Greg campaign, and a guy who wants to use fMRI to fight COVID running for mayor is randomly putting signs on lawns without permission. I got signs from UNA, the NDP, and the Liberals and put them all on my lawn. Now I get to watch dog walkers pause in front of my house and look momentarily angry and confused. It's fun!
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Sep 15, 2021 17:27
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I wonder how hard it is to become a PPC candidate? Is there any entrance exam? Clearly no vetting happens and I don't even think the loons know what their party platform actually is (or if there is a party platform). Perhaps the only qualification is to shout "freedom" over and over again.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:32
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Madkal posted:I wonder how hard it is to become a PPC candidate? Is there any entrance exam? Clearly no vetting happens and I don't even think the loons know what their party platform actually is (or if there is a party platform). Perhaps the only qualification is to shout "freedom" over and over again. If you can fog up a mirror and draw a swastika, you're in.
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Sep 15, 2021 17:43
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Madkal posted:I wonder how hard it is to become a PPC candidate? Is there any entrance exam? Clearly no vetting happens and I don't even think the loons know what their party platform actually is (or if there is a party platform). Perhaps the only qualification is to shout "freedom" over and over again. I think the whole point of party is to gather the cranks together and take all the unpopular opinions. The platform is secondary to who is in the party. The thesis is probably that the LPC, CPC, NDP, BQ, and GP can fight between themselves for the vast majority of Canadians holding relatively normal political opinions (more or less), and the PPC will have that last 10% of voters totally to themselves. Maybe not all the antivaxxers care about the racism, and the racists might not all care about vaccines either way, but neither group has any organized support from any of the other parties, so they can find a political home in the PPC. It looks like Bernier has been putting in hard work going to these fringe groups and courting them. The party looks organized enough to sustain Bernier's livelihood more or less indefinitely. Now, will they have enough political strength to force concessions from the Conservatives, or elect a candidate?
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Sep 15, 2021 17:56
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My wife mixed it up with an old friend on social media who's voting PPC. It took him 3 replies to go from I'm a principled libertarian -> actually the media is brainwashing you into thinking the PPC are racist, we're not -> there are too many non-white families around nowadays. I had to laugh like hell. e: He's a huge Jorp fan too SURPRISE SURPRISE
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Sep 15, 2021 17:59
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apatheticman posted:The little maple leaf American companies always put near or in their logo was always hilarious. Apparently pandering works. I thought that it served to keep the promotional materials separate, so you don't have people printing off American coupons and demanding to get five hamburgers for a dollar because the American chain is offering it. Also, where the maple leaf replaces an apostrophe (Wendy's), you have plausible deniability that it's an apostrophe when the OQLF comes knocking.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:02
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Health Services posted:The party looks organized enough to sustain Bernier's livelihood more or less indefinitely. Now, will they have enough political strength to force concessions from the Conservatives, or elect a candidate? Really comes down to whether there's an area that has dense enough PPC support. Polling at 8 or even 10% doesn't matter if it's spread across the country in our system. Maybe rural SW ontario? I certainly see a lot of PPC signs driving through there.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:14
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Fwiw (close to nothing), I saw one pundit somewhere predict that Beauce, Berniers old riding in QC, will go PPC. He got 28% there last time. Edit: Just to be clear, that pundit was predicting it would be the only riding that the PPC will win. Still, one too many. As a side note, it's hilarious to me that the Conservatives tried their best to dogwhistle with the securing the future stuff and still lost a bunch of white supremacists to the PPC. Absolute loser party. Starks fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 15, 2021 |
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Sep 15, 2021 18:18
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Manitoba is offering 3rd shots to immunocompromised people and people travelling out of province soon starting today
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Sep 15, 2021 18:37
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tagesschau posted:I thought that it served to keep the promotional materials separate, so you don't have people printing off American coupons and demanding to get five hamburgers for a dollar because the American chain is offering it. Also, where the maple leaf replaces an apostrophe (Wendy's), you have plausible deniability that it's an apostrophe when the OQLF comes knocking. Trademarks don't have to be translated.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:37
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Mask mandate returning to PEI on Friday.
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Sep 15, 2021 18:41
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Gros Tarla posted:Trademarks don't have to be translated. The Apostrophe SS disagreed, which is how Eaton's became Eaton-great-big-fuckoff-maple-leaf Tim Hortons just knuckled under rather than pick the fight
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Sep 15, 2021 18:54
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