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tagesschau posted:I thought that it served to keep the promotional materials separate, so you don't have people printing off American coupons and demanding to get five hamburgers for a dollar because the American chain is offering it. Also, where the maple leaf replaces an apostrophe (Wendy's), you have plausible deniability that it's an apostrophe when the OQLF comes knocking. something tells me the tiny little maple leaf at the center of the mcdonald's M is not accomplishing this it's 100% just pandering, and really only possible because the maple leaf is so insanely iconic in all meanings of the word. it's not like French and German mcdonalds locations have such an easy shorthand for reminding you that they're in THIS country now
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Sep 15, 2021 19:05
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New Brunswick is introducing their The absolute terror the word passport instills in politicians is amusing. They'll call their passport system literally anything else to avoid the connotation.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:09
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flakeloaf posted:The Apostrophe SS disagreed, which is how Eaton's became Eaton-great-big-fuckoff-maple-leaf That only lasted a couple years. After the involvement of the supreme court and the following government, the law was tweaked to explicitely allow trademarked names in any language, which is why we have Best Buy, Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Apple and Canadian Tire all over the place. There was an attempt to change that at some point in the 00's I think but it was struck down in cour supérieure. So to the person I was replying to, there is no point as of today to "hide" the apostrophe with a maple leaf. It would be perfectly legal as it stands.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:13
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My vaccine is my passport, vilify me
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Sep 15, 2021 19:13
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Gros Tarla posted:That only lasted a couple years. After the involvement of the supreme court and the following government, the law was tweaked to explicitely allow trademarked names in any language, which is why we have Best Buy, Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Apple and Canadian Tire all over the place. There was an attempt to change that at some point in the 00's I think but it was struck down in cour supérieure. why did quebec hate apostrophes in the first place
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Sep 15, 2021 19:23
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No possessive S in French, so a sign that has one is Obviously English, which is a problem because etc.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:24
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Arivia posted:why did quebec hate apostrophes in the first place It was never about apostrophes specifically, the whole signage had to be in French. And if there was ambiguity with a name and then you add an apostrophe, then it made it clear it was english. That was initially, at least. Now, all trademarks are allowed in whatever language (including apostrophes), as long as there's french signage too. So for example, Best Buy has "magasin électronique et électroménagers" or stuff like that near it. As for Eaton's specifically, they were famously hated here because they would refuse to hire/serve french people altogether. Which is probably why they went after them first lol.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:31
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Gros Tarla posted:As for Eaton's specifically, they were famously hated here because they would refuse to hire/serve french people altogether. Which is probably why they went after them first lol. Yup, and they got what they deserved for it. Federally, we insist on cancon requirements in media to protect our culture. Insisting on French signage in Quebec is no different it's totally fine. If you can't be bothered to at least make it look like you're willing to try speaking to people in their language, don't address them.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:33
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mila kunis posted:I thought the ppc was just facebook brainrotted boomers but it's got chan morons as well. Very diverse party. Apparently he's a computer lab teacher, which apparently is something that basically anyone can just walk in and become, no questions asked. My high school computer sciences teacher was some self-made tech millionaire who just walked into the principal's office and said "Hi, I'm a self-made tech millionaire, I want to teach computers", and then he just never bothered to teach us anything for entire semester. Glad to see that practice is still in place across Canada.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:44
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Gros Tarla posted:It was never about apostrophes specifically, the whole signage had to be in French. And if there was ambiguity with a name and then you add an apostrophe, then it made it clear it was english. That was initially, at least. Now, all trademarks are allowed in whatever language (including apostrophes), as long as there's french signage too. So for example, Best Buy has "magasin électronique et électroménagers" or stuff like that near it. Wow I never knew that about Eaton's, that's intensely lovely.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:48
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Gros Tarla posted:It was never about apostrophes specifically, the whole signage had to be in French. And if there was ambiguity with a name and then you add an apostrophe, then it made it clear it was english. That was initially, at least. Now, all trademarks are allowed in whatever language (including apostrophes), as long as there's french signage too. So for example, Best Buy has "magasin électronique et électroménagers" or stuff like that near it. Best Buy is a common example but it's weird to me because there's nothing about the English words to suggest they're a consumer electronics store. But a store named "Meilleur Achat" wouldn't legally need to have prominent signage describing what they sell. Now I'm imagining stores like Vieille Marine and La Cible popping up.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:49
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Here's how you can tell you've run a successful campaign and your tenure as a party leader was a prosperous one: CBC: Annamie Paul says she's considered stepping down as Green party leader with five days to go before the election even happens.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:52
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I didn't know the UCP was selling these last summer 
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Sep 15, 2021 19:54
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Arivia posted:Wow I never knew that about Eaton's, that's intensely lovely. In the case of Eaton's specifically, it was because it was trying to be a classy place for classy people and for them it de facto excluded the quebecois that were viewed as working class trash. Otherwise, Eaton was a big name but it was pretty common back then for many businesses, for various reasons, which is why the pendulum swung heavily the other way with bill 101. You may or may not agree with it, that's fine, not here to argue that. Just giving some historical context. Petanque posted:Best Buy is a common example but it's weird to me because there's nothing about the English words to suggest they're a consumer electronics store. But a store named "Meilleur Achat" wouldn't legally need to have prominent signage describing what they sell. Yeah, for sure. I think the main intentent was to make it welcoming to french speaking people. Pictures of Montreal in the 60's are pretty jarring, you wouldn't know people spoke french there looking at the streets, it's indistinguishable from Toronto. For someone that couldn't speak english at all (the vast majority), it seems it would have been hard to navigate, which in the end was probably why it was all in english. They knew who had all the capital to spend and it kept the undesirables away 
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Sep 15, 2021 20:01
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Gros Tarla posted:Trademarks don't have to be translated. That may be true now, but it wasn't for more than a decade after Bill 101 was passed, so it naturally would have influenced branding decisions.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:01
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nine-gear crow posted:Apparently he's a computer lab teacher, which apparently is something that basically anyone can just walk in and become, no questions asked. The teacher's union in Ontario is cool with somebody walking in off the street who doesn't have a teacher's certificate being a full-time teacher?
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Sep 15, 2021 20:17
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 The PPC are straight up just filled with bigots. Why the gently caress are these assholes allowed to run??   Goddamn what were they thinking doing a Reddit AMA.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:24
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Given how many braying chuds there are on Canadian subreddits they probably figured it would go well for them.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:26
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Gros Tarla posted:In the case of Eaton's specifically, it was because it was trying to be a classy place for classy people and for them it de facto excluded the quebecois that were viewed as working class trash. Otherwise, Eaton was a big name but it was pretty common back then for many businesses, for various reasons, which is why the pendulum swung heavily the other way with bill 101. I was genuinely aware there was actual anti-Francophone bigotry like that in Quebec! Bill 101 makes a lot more sense now, thank you very much for informing me.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:27
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I didn't know the UCP was selling these last summer drat, I really want one of those now
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Sep 15, 2021 20:33
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Arivia posted:I was genuinely aware there was actual anti-Francophone bigotry like that in Quebec! Bill 101 makes a lot more sense now, thank you very much for informing me. Sure! I just find it unfortunate that politicians are now instrumentalising the fear of this not so distant past to justify being bigots ourselves. I also think bill 101 did the trick just fine to make it easier to live in french here, I don't see a need for stronger laws right now. But Legault is not gonna pass up on this I guess.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:42
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Would conservative ridings be the ones most at risk from PPC votes? Or is there potential vote splitting in competitive ridings where PPC snatches Con votes away and Libs or Dippers end up taking it?
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Sep 15, 2021 21:10
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UnknownMercenary posted:Given how many braying chuds there are on Canadian subreddits they probably figured it would go well for them. Doesn't r/canada STILL has an out and proud Neo Nazi moderator? Or was finally dealt with?
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Sep 15, 2021 21:12
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Sep 15, 2021 21:16
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Sorry to post nonsense from Michael Geller, who will be familiar to anyone who follows Vancouver real estate as a notorious boomer moron, but I just wanted to talk a bit about the whole "jurisdiction" issue and how it seems to play so badly for the NDP and Singh. https://twitter.com/michaelgeller/status/1438225903599841283?s=20 Taking this condescending tweet at face value for a moment: Is there any actual difference between how the Liberal Party has been working with the provinces to build childcare, versus the NDP's plans to create pharmacare/dentalcare etc? I feel like I'm being completely gaslit by the media here when they completely ignore that the Liberal Party has been deeply involved in provincial jurisdiction with medicare and oh so recently childcare, while at the same time they are admonishing Jagmeet Singh for "not understanding" jurisdiction, and his apparently wild and crazy plans to "meddle" in provincial areas of concern by working to create universal pharmacare. As I see it there's really only one move the feds are ever capable of making here, which is to dangle a giant pile of money in front of the provinces in exchange for creating a program that meets some national standards. Seems to me that this is what the Liberals are doing with childcare and what the NDP would be doing with pharmacare. The Libs/NDP are doing the same thing, with the only difference being their priorities and drive in when they would be doing this. Where's the difference? Is there any difference? Are these people hearing something in what Singh is saying that I'm not hearing? I feel like I'm going crazy when I am constantly reading poo poo like what Geller tweeted here that implies there is some massive insane thing Singh is suggesting. What I'm hearing from Singh sounds entirely reasonable and exactly akin to what the Feds are currently doing with childcare. Of course it's not just morons like Geller implying there's some difference. Geller is referencing the interview on the CBC National that Rosie Barton did with Singh, where she was heavily suggesting there was something majorly off with Singh's approach to pursuing deals with the provinces and aggressively interrogating him on this. Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 15, 2021 |
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Sep 15, 2021 21:27
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Arc Hammer posted:Would conservative ridings be the ones most at risk from PPC votes? Or is there potential vote splitting in competitive ridings where PPC snatches Con votes away and Libs or Dippers end up taking it? My feeling is they'll get a lot of votes all over from previously non voting people who have been whipped into a frenzy, but not enough to win anything.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:29
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https://twitter.com/Happy_Belmore/status/1438136060811386882 Secondhand embarrassment
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Sep 15, 2021 21:32
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Jason Kenney is up tonight. Tune in at 6pm MDT or 8pm EDT to watch a train wreck.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:32
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ZeeBoi posted:Secondhand embarrassment Nah, shoot it straight into my veins.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:34
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Femtosecond posted:I feel like I'm being completely gaslit by the media That's pretty much it, yea
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Sep 15, 2021 21:43
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Incredible answer but what’s wrong with a purple tie? Love the pronunciation of Maxime lol
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Sep 15, 2021 21:46
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Don't make me watch a loving video.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:50
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half cocaine posted:Don't make me watch a loving video. He literally cannot answer the question “what’s the difference between the CPC and the PPC” because it’s too hard for him, by his own admission
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Sep 15, 2021 21:52
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nine-gear crow posted:Doesn't r/canada STILL has an out and proud Neo Nazi moderator? Or was finally dealt with? They sure do! I even private chatted with him once recently after he expressed remorse for his opinions. He was like, what can I do to show people that's not me? I advised him to stop being a moderator and he blocked me, haha.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:55
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That should be the easiest question on earth for a CPC candidate to answer. Here's one version that I feel would cover the main differences: "The People's Party has a track record of being the party of grievance, of anger without focus, and no actual solution to the problems facing Canada and Canadians. Obviously, they are conservative in a sense, but in contrast to campaign that relies on veiled and not-so-veiled bigotry and strange conspiracy theories, the Conservative Party of Canada stands for thoughtful, traditionally conservative policy that provides real solutions." Of course it's bullshit because the CPC is really drat dumb, but that's how I would phrase it if I were representing them.
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Sep 15, 2021 21:59
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Have you ever had a party that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want Maxime to do you so much you could do anything?
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Sep 15, 2021 22:00
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PT6A posted:That should be the easiest question on earth for a CPC candidate to answer. Here's one version that I feel would cover the main differences: That's a fine answer, but also the answer that doesn't let you win back those sweet sweet CPC / PPC swing voters. You can't say your party isn't racist, that will make the racists not want to vote for you! It's like THE NDP stronghold anyway, so it's not like the CPC candidate has a chance to win anyway.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:08
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Starks posted:He literally cannot answer the question “what’s the difference between the CPC and the PPC” because it’s too hard for him, by his own admission ... and then he takes a "pass" as if he's on a game show, which is also hilarious.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:15
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I voted a few days ago, I also convinced my mom to vote NDP.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:36
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ZeeBoi posted:https://twitter.com/Happy_Belmore/status/1438136060811386882 What an absolute buffoon, lmao.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:38
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