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Failed Imagineer posted:Weren't people in this very thread claiming that Line Of Duty was brave for showing bent coppers, when in reality it's some of the most blatant copaganda in years lol I thought LoD was less about how 'bent coppers' are everywhere and more about how the entire institution is so reluctant to change that nothing ever happens.
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Line of Duty is more about how institutional corruption is all pervasive, and that even if there are 'good' cops (all of whom are actually deeply flawed and lovely in many ways), their actions are utterly powerless in the face of the Establishment protecting its own.
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The Perfect Element posted:Line of Duty is more about how institutional corruption is all pervasive, and that even if there are 'good' cops (all of whom are actually deeply flawed and lovely in many ways), their actions are utterly powerless in the face of the Establishment protecting its own. A so basically the Asda Smartprice version of The Wire.
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sebzilla posted:Any ideas why Marsha de Cordova and Charlotte Nichols have both resigned from the shadow cabinet in the past couple of days? https://www.voice-online.co.uk/news/2021/09/16/labour-nothing-to-say-on-racial-justice/ quote:Labour’s most senior black politician quit after falling out with Keir Starmer over race equality issues.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:which does actually bring up a good point - when was the last TV show (or popular media generally) where the police were the bad guys? I feel like it was around 1997 and I don't feel like that's a coincidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Line_(TV_series) ?  Or lots of American stuff, The Wire comes to mind or The Shield.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:which does actually bring up a good point - when was the last TV show (or popular media generally) where the police were the bad guys? I feel like it was around 1997 and I don't feel like that's a coincidence. The Shield.
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blues thief posted:Sources said that efforts to set up a taskforce of experts to design progressive race equality policy were held back over concerns this might upset Red Wall voters, and that Starmer had resisted pleas to make a speech setting out his vision to black communities. lol he's literally turning the racism dial and looking back for approval.
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ro5s posted:lol he's literally turning the racism dial and looking back for approval. Clearly a winning strategy when the current government are outright racists, and being pushed from the right by an even more racist party. If you're a racist in Britain you're already well catered why the gently caress would you vote for Labour.
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keep punching joe posted:Clearly a winning strategy when the current government are outright racists, and being pushed from the right by an even more racist party. If you're a racist in Britain you're already well catered why the gently caress would you vote for Labour. The poor and working class racist vote is a sizeable demographic. Which is of course why Keith is not offering them anything at all.
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Pretty much any anti-institution TV show or movie ultimately boils down to "theres a few bad apples" but The Wire definitely gets the wider perspective.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:which does actually bring up a good point - when was the last TV show (or popular media generally) where the police were the bad guys? I feel like it was around 1997 and I don't feel like that's a coincidence. 2003 had the bent coppers in Early Doors who would turn up at the pub for free drinks offering to sell on stolen goods, and were always sort of vaguely threatening iirc
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Failed Imagineer posted:Weren't people in this very thread claiming that Line Of Duty was brave for showing bent coppers, when in reality it's some of the most blatant copaganda in years lol Not really? There's barely a handful of cops in the show that aren't scum (and even they're pretty dodgy in their own way) and the whole point is that the rot is far too embedded to fix. The bent bastards at the top even use the 'few bad apples' defence. It's not subtle. stev fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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gabriel kent from the bill
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Guavanaut posted:homes under the hammer and sickle. a five minute motivational montage every day of lardlords heids being stoved in set to 'walking on sunshine'
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Sep 16, 2021 13:17
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Okay! Weird that you all see my real face and real voice. If you see me in the street please don’t stairs me https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1aJtoJJo6m8&feature=youtu.be
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the only good cop is taggart (a dead cop).
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Jakabite posted:Okay! Weird that you all see my real face and real voice. If you see me in the street please don’t stairs me wtf you don't look anything like Graham Chapman
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keep punching joe posted:the only good cop is
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the sex ghost posted:2003 had the bent coppers in Early Doors who would turn up at the pub for free drinks offering to sell on stolen goods, and were always sort of vaguely threatening iirc Excellent show, need to watch that again. Ideal had the cop friend who stole drugs to give to Moz to sell.
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Jakabite posted:Okay! Weird that you all see my real face and real voice. If you see me in the street please don’t stairs me How annoying is it to set up a camera, pretend to walk past it, and then go back to pick the camera up again?
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Comrade Fakename posted:How annoying is it to set up a camera, pretend to walk past it, and then go back to pick the camera up again? The trick is to have 200 cameras....
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Comrade Fakename posted:How annoying is it to set up a camera, pretend to walk past it, and then go back to pick the camera up again? While the novelty is still there, not that annoying. Once I’ve worked out the ins and outs of it all and it’s routine? I expect extremely annoying. You also look loving stupid which is the worst bit
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Jakabite posted:Okay! Weird that you all see my real face and real voice. If you see me in the street please don’t stairs me
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Ashes to Ashes was a poor followup to Life on Mars (I guess the second season corrected a little maybe). Gene Hunt's rant at the soft liberal lord about why he was going to poo poo all over PACE and that he should be thanked for being gammon-Dredd was a weird take on his established bastard-but-fair-dad role.
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Any character who is well written and recieved in the first series will slowly become a caricature from the 2nd season onwards.
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There was that show between the lines with Tony Slattery in it in the 90s which was all about the police being a bunch of corrupt dicks.
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This all made me remember the thin blue line, perhaps the all time example of 'awful show with catchy theme tune'. Still find myself whistling it when I'm taking the bins out or other menial tasks
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Jakabite posted:Okay! Weird that you all see my real face and real voice. If you see me in the street please don’t stairs me You actually look closer to your avatar than I imagined (I imagine all goons to look like either Sue Perkins or Robbie Coltrane, gender irrelevant, and am seldom proven wrong). Wank-hat on though - really good camera work, nicely framed and edited, and you're not too hideous to be on screen or with a voice that sounds like a muppet being tortured to death, so you're already a million times better than the median Youtuber. I'm interested to see where you go with this - personally I'd like to see a lot more footage of the trail itself and some commentary, even if it's "Hey that's a pretty flower, I have no idea what it is though" - like a conversational thing, as if you were walking along the trail with the viewer. e: To finally make one end of a sentence match the other, Jesus I need some sleep goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:(I imagine all goons to look like either Sue Perkins or Robbie Coltrane, gender irrelevant, and am seldom proven otherwise). This is doxxing
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Failed Imagineer posted:This is doxxing It's also really loving horrible grammar, I went back and edited it three times and still managed to come up with a linguistic cut-and-shut.
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the sex ghost posted:This all made me remember the thin blue line, perhaps the all time example of 'awful show with catchy theme tune'. Still find myself whistling it when I'm taking the bins out or other menial tasks The Brittas Empire just came into my mind for the first time in 20 years, that endlessly crying woman specifically.
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the sex ghost posted:This all made me remember the thin blue line, perhaps the all time example of 'awful show with catchy theme tune'. Still find myself whistling it when I'm taking the bins out or other menial tasks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IMudn717oY
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the sex ghost posted:This all made me remember the thin blue line, perhaps the all time example of 'awful show with catchy theme tune'. Still find myself whistling it when I'm taking the bins out or other menial tasks Yeah, nice tune. But one of those comedies that drew in the numbers to watch it, but won't stand the test of time and is more cringe as time goes on. UK comedies have the best theme tunes. Bottom is probably my favorite. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You actually look closer to your avatar than I imagined (I imagine all goons to look like either Sue Perkins or Robbie Coltrane, gender irrelevant, and am seldom proven wrong). I genuinely do look like Sue Perkins if she was an alcoholic, so F U you psychic bastard
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Ash Sarkar posted a link to that Rod Liddle piece where he talks about not wanting to be a teacher because he wouldn't be able to stop loving the kids. Someone responded with this Guardian article by him which has an all-time insane opening sentence: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/jan/14/childprotection.rodliddle 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You actually look closer to your avatar than I imagined (I imagine all goons to look like either Sue Perkins or Robbie Coltrane, gender irrelevant, and am seldom proven wrong). Thanks dude, really appreciate this! There were a couple of instances of seeing cool wildlife (just squirrels and butterflies really) but with a GoPro it feels impossible to get a good shot of anything far away - I’m still experimenting, so I’m not sure if that’s just because the screen is TINY or the lack of zoom really is that much of a hindrance even at high resolution. I don’t really want to get into digital zooming - everything I’ve read says that if you’re actually going to get good, you should avoid it like the plague. I’m looking to do more stuff that features other people. In truth, that’s what really interests me. It’s hard to know where the line is - it can feel rude to just be like yo can I film you. I think you just have to do it though. There’s a guy here who goes round and dances to tunes from an old Walkman for/at people at outdoor seating. I’m not even sure if it’s for money, I’ve never seen him ask. So I think tonight I might try and find him and ask if he minds if I film him doing his thing and people’s reactions. Stuff like that is what I really want to do. In the longer term I’m looking at making some short documentaries (and eventually long ones I suppose). I met a Romani guy who’d just done a 14 year stretch for a crime he wouldn’t disclose to me at a party a week ago, and we got quite hosed up together and he was a pretty interesting guy. Also was deeply hurt when I said I’d walked in and immediately thought ‘loving hell that guy is massive and quite scary’. I mentioned my new career to him and he said he might be down to work together, so I’m hoping my first proper work is a sort of short participatory ethnography into Romani people in Transylvania - the racism against them here is just as bad if not worse than the U.K., so it would be nice to show people the other side. (Shock: people are just people and probably some are assholes and some are cool, who knew)
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Necrothatcher posted:Ash Sarkar posted a link to that Rod Liddle piece where he talks about not wanting to be a teacher because he wouldn't be able to stop loving the kids. Someone responded with this Guardian article by him which has an all-time insane opening sentence: 
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Necrothatcher posted:Ash Sarkar posted a link to that Rod Liddle piece where he talks about not wanting to be a teacher because he wouldn't be able to stop loving the kids. Someone responded with this Guardian article by him which has an all-time insane opening sentence:  At least something was
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Necrothatcher posted:Ash Sarkar posted a link to that Rod Liddle piece where he talks about not wanting to be a teacher because he wouldn't be able to stop loving the kids. Someone responded with this Guardian article by him which has an all-time insane opening sentence: He wouldnt even want to look at his own article. 
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