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Just drop the show and switch to the manga if you still like MHA, it's unwatchable now
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They also skipped I think Redestro's introduction which was... Really something. Like something out of DC comics.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:27
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I definitely think once this season is over, I'm going to just read the manga(s) and just watch the dub when it comes around, a lot of these omissions do seem egregious.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:35
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I agree with the guy who said it feels like there was an order from on high to strip all characterisation and nuance from the villains
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Sep 16, 2021 04:19
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The last two episodes were pretty good, but some cuts were still notable.
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Sep 16, 2021 04:46
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There's "tragic backstory" and then there's "over-indulgent bathos" and that episode felt far more like the latter. Also it seems like if Quirks manifest during the stage in early childhood development where children have very little control over impulse and emotion then these kinds of tragedies should be way more commonplace.
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Not Keyser Soze posted:There's "tragic backstory" and then there's "over-indulgent bathos" and that episode felt far more like the latter. Also it seems like if Quirks manifest during the stage in early childhood development where children have very little control over impulse and emotion then these kinds of tragedies should be way more commonplace. There aren't a whole lot of quirks out there with the kind of power and destructive ability that Shiggy's has, and its probable that his went out of control that day because of his family's abuse.
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Technowolf posted:There aren't a whole lot of quirks out there with the kind of power and destructive ability that Shiggy's has, and its probable that his went out of control that day because of his family's abuse. I wonder if some of the power stored by One for All was actually passed down genetically to Shigi which was why it was so powerful compared to say, Bakugo's quirk.
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I think that quirks being this powerful is mostly a recent thing, since as far as I know they get stronger each generation. Since most quirks are apparently either one of the parent's quirks or a combination, it's generally probably pretty easy to anticipate possible problems that pop up and very few quirks are going to be directly destructive probably. Even still you have stuff like Kirishima scarring himself when his quirk came in. Also the implication I got from the episode is that the only real accident was the dog and that everything else was the quirk acting according to what Shiggy wanted (subconsciously or not)
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Zeron posted:I think that quirks being this powerful is mostly a recent thing, since as far as I know they get stronger each generation. Since most quirks are apparently either one of the parent's quirks or a combination, it's generally probably pretty easy to anticipate possible problems that pop up and very few quirks are going to be directly destructive probably. Even still you have stuff like Kirishima scarring himself when his quirk came in. That's specifically stated during the Make-up Exam arc. It also implies that quirks combining (much like how Bakugo and Shoto's quirks are combinations of their parents' quirks) is a lot more common now and mentions some sort of "quirk singularity" theory that's supposed to be rapidly approaching.
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Sep 16, 2021 17:10
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Dracula Factory posted:I definitely think once this season is over, I'm going to just read the manga(s) and just watch the dub when it comes around, a lot of these omissions do seem egregious. I'm also leaning this direction. How close were the earlier seasons to the manga? It wasn't this bad, obviously, but was there worthwhile stuff left out or would it be fine picking up the manga from around the end of Overhaul or thereabouts?
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Sep 17, 2021 04:02
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This is really the first time that cuts have affected the plot this significantly
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Sep 17, 2021 04:06
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Yeah, I think MHA has been absolutely great until this season. 4/5 seasons is a pretty good record. Hopefully they'll get enough negative feedback that they'll reverse course for next season. The only cut thing I know about is Overhaul in the manga recounts a theory that quirks were a disease originating in, and spread by. rodents somehow. With his germaphobia, it would explain why he hates quirks so much.
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Sep 17, 2021 04:21
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There was the Mario slideshow from last season, but then Deku’s fight was pretty good so
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It is really irritating too to have scattered moments of amazing animation surrounded by mostly dull stuff and way too many slideshows. Like Shoto's first big fireball and Deku's universe of punches were such stunning moments, and the only good recent moment I can think of is when Ochaco nimbly jumped around to hide her all might keychain. There are a number of other action anime that are showing up much better in that department.
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Sep 17, 2021 04:55
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I remember when I thought the animation in this show was pretty good
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I think it has, and still does the fluffy bits really well. As mentioned Ochaco's keychain gag, that time everyone was speed walking, Iida karate chopping no one in particular. But other than the Endeavor vs High End fight, most action episodes are 90 well animated seconds surrounded by 22 minutes of serviceable animation.
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Technowolf posted:There aren't a whole lot of quirks out there with the kind of power and destructive ability that Shiggy's has, and its probable that his went out of control that day because of his family's abuse. Zeron posted:I think that quirks being this powerful is mostly a recent thing, since as far as I know they get stronger each generation. Since most quirks are apparently either one of the parent's quirks or a combination, it's generally probably pretty easy to anticipate possible problems that pop up and very few quirks are going to be directly destructive probably. Even still you have stuff like Kirishima scarring himself when his quirk came in. Shigaraki's quirk is very likely a mutation like Eri's. Thats why it's so powerful, hard to control and came out of nowhere like it did. The story of his quirk manifesting is extremely similar to her story of vanishing her dad. Shigi and Eri are also visually similar in that both of them have the same blue-grey hair and red eyes. It's possible all 'mutants' would have these features.
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Sep 17, 2021 07:20
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I don't hate this season like some others itt, but then I haven't read the manga at all either so I don't know what the cut parts are. I do agree that this season feels like a lot of wasted potential though because I had hoped we'd get more insight into the league but what we're getting is some very basic "they had lovely childhoods and now they're murderers". I was hoping for more. Are we getting some backstory to the Ninja Turtle, MagicianGuy and BlueFireMan as well eventually? I do hope that whatever fights are left in this season get more animation as well, like the last fight in the Overhaul arc Collapsing Farts fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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Sep 17, 2021 07:50
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Spinner's backstory was supposed to be touched on at the start of this arc. But, like everything related to him at this point other than the fact that he exists, it got cut.
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Lotus Aura posted:Spinner's backstory was supposed to be touched on at the start of this arc. But, like everything related to him at this point other than the fact that he exists, it got cut. Feels like Spinner is about to get his big moment in the fight against the politician guy, maybe they'll slot it in there
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I feel this is very much covid showing its effect on the industry.
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Mordaedil posted:I feel this is very much covid showing its effect on the industry. It's probably a factor, but there are too many lookers last season for that to work as a complete excuse. It's been a long time since lockdowns started, and most places have got some kind of workflow going. It's more likely that the movie was responsible here.
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Mordaedil posted:I feel this is very much covid showing its effect on the industry. This is not COVIDs fault. The Endeavour internship and Joint training arcs were slowed down and lengthened. With one episode of Endeavour Internship covering a single chapter, and an anime original episode being inserted in. That is not even starting with the fact that Endeavour Intership and MVA got swapped around.
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Collapsing Farts posted:I do agree that this season feels like a lot of wasted potential though because I had hoped we'd get more insight into the league but what we're getting is some very basic "they had lovely childhoods and now they're murderers". I was hoping for more. Are we getting some backstory to the Ninja Turtle, MagicianGuy and BlueFireMan as well eventually? Spinner's should have already happened but they might slot it in later I guess. The other two - yes but not this season.
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Not that the manga doesn't have its own issues too; but at least in terms of its art quality, direction and composition it feels like its been consistently good.
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The stuff that's happening now is one of the best parts of the manga, so seeing it all chopped up like this makes it worse. It's probably not as bad if you've only seen the show.
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But remember when class b did a thing guys, definitely worth 16 (bad) episodes of that before all this.
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im still enjoying the show a lot. its probably the weakest season, but it has a lot of good moments. i dont read the manga, so thats maybe y im not so bitter ab the stuff they left out. it still works by itself.NikkolasKing posted:Also, as noted elsewhere, Destro being a backstory character seems like a waste. Why couldn't he just be the leader? definitely disagreed here, that monologue re-destro has when he meets shigarakis clone was pretty great, and it wouldnt have been much different if it were said by destro himself instead. on the other hand, i like the fact that the leader is his son that never even met him. it adds this idea of u not even being sure of how much of re-destros ideology has anything to do with destro himself or with destros mother, despite how strongly he feels for it. but overall, yeah, the meta liberation army, at least as is in the anime, is pretty lame. re-destro is the only guy i like from it. judging from the endeavor stuff b4 this flashback, tho, maybe some of them will have more time to shine later. Dracula Factory posted:It is really irritating too to have scattered moments of amazing animation surrounded by mostly dull stuff and way too many slideshows. Like Shoto's first big fireball and Deku's universe of punches were such stunning moments, and the only good recent moment I can think of is when Ochaco nimbly jumped around to hide her all might keychain. There are a number of other action anime that are showing up much better in that department. speed guy breaking through the ice. that whole episode was well done and on par w/ the best this show had to offer in animation imo Gazaar posted:But remember when class b did a thing guys, definitely worth 16 (bad) episodes of that before all this. that part of the story was pretty fun and the only reasons that it wasnt three times better came entirely from the manga portion w/ that weak rear end writing in the last two fifths.
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I forgot Shigaraki is AfO's last name. Dude is just a complete fucker.
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Quirk-groomed by the weird bad man.
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They made another little cut in the backstory. Where it was shown that All for One rewarded young Shigaraki with toys and games for indulging in his bad impulses.
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Sep 18, 2021 18:19
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They also cut more stuff with Spinner. lol. Can't characterize the badguys for some reason!
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Sep 18, 2021 20:09
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So is next week the end of the season or do we still have a couple episodes left?
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Sep 18, 2021 20:40
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Last ep next week. I heard it was another beach episode for the villains but the previews revealed this was a dirty lie.
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Fabricated posted:They also cut more stuff with Spinner. lol. Can't characterize the badguys for some reason! I haven't watched the episode yet are you loving kidding me
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Sep 18, 2021 21:57
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Blockhouse posted:I haven't watched the episode yet are you loving kidding me
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I feel some one higher up must hate Spinner.
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I just don’t understand it to be honest. I don’t think Spinners a big character or anything, but he adds a lot of fun moments to the League, it makes them seem human and not just a pack of violent psychopaths.
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Spinner is my dude and I think he's great but also he's not a particularly popular character and he doesn't really have any big moments in this arc or any others. While he's a big part of this arc in the comic it's mostly through his narration and his inner thoughts on Shigaraki and his reasons for joining the League. He doesn't really get much of a fight or a dramatic emotional breakthrough like Twice, he's kinda an easy choice to cut screentime for if you're short on time. I think its a huge mistake to cut Spinner stuff because he's a big part of what makes this arc work imo, but I don't think his stuff was cut because it makes the villains too likeable or whatever. I think it was just done because he's not as big a deal as most of the other villains.
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