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Mr Hootington posted:I mistyped 50%! Still an insane number! Sorry! I don't find that accurate either. It's a ~12% bump per year over the next five years, so Taiwan will be spending $73 billion vs $65 billion through 2026 on its military. We saw similar increases from Japan back in 2015. Had they announced next year's budget would be $21 billion that would be an eye popping jump.
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Sep 16, 2021 16:52
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Wasn't the US desperately searching for places around China to put more missiles in, with everyone telling them they positively love getting caught in a nuclear dick waving contest, feel free, death is great. Wait, no everyone told them to gently caress off. Seems to me the fella down under is not that bright, is he?
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Sep 16, 2021 16:52
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genericnick posted:Wasn't the US desperately searching for places around China to put more missiles in, with everyone telling them they positively love getting caught in a nuclear dick waving contest, feel free, death is great. Wait, no everyone told them to gently caress off. Seems to me the fella down under is not that bright, is he? This is a relatively small missile that's launched from ships and submarines.
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Sep 16, 2021 16:59
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OhFunny posted:I don't find that accurate either. I have reread the numbers and not only am I math bad. I am illiterate. Thank you for bringing this to my attention!
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Sep 16, 2021 17:03
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OhFunny posted:I believe Mr. Hootington is posting hyperbole. That's still a lot of dough for their next batch of pristine American boneyarded hardware
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Sep 16, 2021 17:31
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On of the Taiwan political show I watched, one of the Taiwanese congressman (whatever they are called officially) mentioned that Taiwan government already had 300 billion Taiwan dollar (10 billion usd) stashed in US. The Taiwanese are not getting their cash out of the US, the only options they have are different outdated US weapon they can get out of their money. So from the mainland's POV, the Taiwanese had already paid for their future US weapon acquisition, its just matter of what weapon. The more outdated the better.
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Sep 16, 2021 17:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1314204222242484224 Operation
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Sep 16, 2021 18:08
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:mearsheimer is a weirdo because his whole approach is to explain all the ruthless stuff that the U.S. is going to do to grind your country into bonemeal, and then when called on it, says "i'm not saying that's good, i'm just saying that's what's going to happen, i'm just a structuralist!" it's very strange. That attitude is some real cheap mobster nonsense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7zkd0kRS4 I don't think it's good we're doing this, but logic dictates that we must. Nothing personal!
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Sep 16, 2021 18:20
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The EU's Indo-Pacific strategy also came out today. https://twitter.com/JosepBorrellF/status/1438533599628832777?s=20 Focus on cooperation, not competition https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_4704
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Sep 16, 2021 18:28
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I think Mearsheimer has a pretty good handle on how to interpret and predict the actions of the US, and by proxy the West in general. What I don't get is his insistence on mapping his theories 1 to 1 onto China. I've had his book on the Israel lobby on my reading list for a while, might have to dip into it soon. edit: is Mearsheimer considered a DC insider? His attitude in that is video is annoying af Gorman Thomas has issued a correction as of 18:44 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 18:34
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I find Mearsheimer not very useful in forecasting US actions personally. He also speak in higher abstraction than what the usual Sect of State and NSA operate at. He also doesn't seem to see the important of the geography factor.
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Sep 16, 2021 18:36
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indigi posted:that seems loving insane why would the electorate put up with that military budget increases are really easy to justify if you just pretend they never actually happened south koreas military budget has jumped up twenty five percent since moon took office and the only places that have acknowledged this has happened are either dedicated military publications who report on this stuff for every country or dumbass liberals who think moon is playing fifth dimensional chess
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Sep 16, 2021 19:14
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rules-based regional order slam that poo poo into my jugular please
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Sep 16, 2021 19:20
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All this talk of military budgets, wanted to look it up in a bit more detail. https://sipri.org/media/press-release/2021/world-military-spending-rises-almost-2-trillion-2020 quote:In addition to China, India ($72.9 billion), Japan ($49.1 billion), South Korea ($45.7 billion) and Australia ($27.5 billion) were the largest military spenders in the Asia and Oceania region. All four countries increased their military spending between 2019 and 2020 and over the decade 2011–20. That Taiwan bump doesn't look all that big compared to rest of the US goons.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:26
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what does Japan spend all that money on
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Sep 16, 2021 19:29
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indigi posted:what does Japan spend all that money on ships probably, their navy is p decent
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Sep 16, 2021 19:30
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indigi posted:what does Japan spend all that money on Handouts to the Mitsubishi Zaibatsu https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mogami-class_frigate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_F-X https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_10 Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 19:34 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 19:32
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https://twitter.com/NikkeiAsia/status/1438517397762109448?s=20 Interesting. Joining requires all existing members to agree and I can't see Australia acceding based on recent events. edit: This is the trade pact Obama negotiated and Trump dumpstered in case someone here wasn't aware. OhFunny has issued a correction as of 19:42 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 19:39
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Also however much the protection payments USA extracts from them for all those bases. Although I have no idea if that's part of the military budget. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omoiyari_Yosan quote:The appropriation amount steadily increased from 1978 to 2001, but has since declined due to pressures placed on the Japanese government (see Opposition below). The 2012 Japanese defense budget allocated ¥186.7 billion for cost sharing (¥144.4 billion of which are SMA-related payments.)[15] This represents a 0.5% increase from the previous year and a 10.4% decrease from 5 years earlier.[16] Going to take that as a yes. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 19:52 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 19:44
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https://twitter.com/PriapusIQ/status/1438574036620087305?s=19 I think this is relevant to this thread.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:49
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/NikkeiAsia/status/1438517397762109448?s=20 are they trying to make people pissed at Australia when they say no? that’s good trolling
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Sep 16, 2021 19:51
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Wouldn't joining entail lifting the tariffs on Australian exports and thus benefit Australia?
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Sep 16, 2021 19:53
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indigi posted:that’s interesting, is it legal there or a “well it’s not legal but everyone does it so w/e” type deal https://www.exutopia.com/on-smoking-weed-in-north-korea/ Here is a guy going to a shopping stall in NK and buying a big ol bag full of weed, like a pound of dirt weed, for 50 cents. And then smoking it in a local restaurant.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:55
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I think China get in the CPTPP application queue so the US won't join. That's my theory. The hardest part for China to comply is independent labor union but I think there is work around if Japan actual say yes (they won't). But it's going to be funny as hell if the entire East Asia block + ASEAN + Australia join in both RCEP and CPTPP. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 20:06 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 20:03
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GoLambo posted:https://www.exutopia.com/on-smoking-weed-in-north-korea/ quote:Corrections to this Article
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Sep 16, 2021 20:05
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GoLambo posted:https://www.exutopia.com/on-smoking-weed-in-north-korea/ that’s a great article, though it does look to be more tolerated than officially legal. I want to go smoke with Russians in North Korea now I wonder why they’re less harsh on it than China/Cuba/Vietnam etc. I suppose the drug trade is often used as a cover for CIA poo poo but since trade isn’t much of a thing in North Korea they don’t have to worry as much
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Sep 16, 2021 20:16
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assuming weed is illegal in dprk comes from assuming they are very conservative and controlling and that therefore they must be for the thing the conservative and controlling west really likes to do. also that south korea are absolute dicks about it. dprk is also not china, and the drug in question isn't opium, and the marijuana isn't being pushed on the dprk to do imperialism like the opium wars. domestically there is really no reason to make it illegal in dprk, it isn't causing problems and they don't need wedges like the US does, nor obscene amounts of state violence, nor excuses to enact any none of this is direct proof or evidence or whatever but i find i come to more correct conceptualizations of what is going on in the dprk if i piece together things like this hot witch divorcee has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 20:33
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/NikkeiAsia/status/1438517397762109448?s=20 Wasn't the TPP a sovereignty destroying handout to the elites? why would China want to join such a pact
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Sep 16, 2021 20:39
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Throatwarbler posted:Wouldn't joining entail lifting the tariffs on Australian exports and thus benefit Australia? I think the idea might be to force such a choice. The US would not be pleased with Australia receiving such a benefit from China.
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Sep 16, 2021 20:55
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Flavahbeast posted:Wasn't the TPP a sovereignty destroying handout to the elites? why would China want to join such a pact it seems like bluff calling to me
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Sep 16, 2021 20:59
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this might actually fit better here https://twitter.com/JustKiyan/status/1438099802558844930?s=20
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Sep 16, 2021 21:56
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Flavahbeast posted:Wasn't the TPP a sovereignty destroying handout to the elites? why would China want to join such a pact idk cause that article highlights the fact they’d have to undo a whole bunch of poo poo the CCP has been pushing the past 3 years esp as regards SOEs. unless they think they can just bully everyone into concessions, in which case why not
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Sep 16, 2021 22:06
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Flavahbeast posted:Wasn't the TPP a sovereignty destroying handout to the elites? why would China want to join such a pact The clauses you're thinking of were suspended after the US withdrew. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/08/591549744/the-tpp-is-dead-long-live-the-trans-pacific-trade-deal quote:The new version, which goes by CPTPP or TPP-11 for short, also suspends some two dozen provisions that the U.S. had fought for but that the other countries had been reluctant to include.
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Sep 16, 2021 22:07
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there’s still a bunch of stuff in there I’d have thought China wouldn’t agree to
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Sep 16, 2021 22:22
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Serf posted:this might actually fit better here - No items - Fox Only - Final Destination
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Sep 16, 2021 23:09
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I wanna see the chinese cause 'no content depicting democracy' makes no sense since China considers itself a democracy and writes the word democracy on all their propaganda
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Sep 16, 2021 23:11
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Antonymous posted:- No items -No games depicting a haughty Yuan emperor allowed -No DLC that includes the Noid or the 7-Up Spot as Playable characters allowed -No claiming you got surf Pikachu in gen 1 allowed
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Sep 16, 2021 23:14
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Antonymous posted:I wanna see the chinese cause 'no content depicting democracy' makes no sense since China considers itself a democracy and writes the word democracy on all their propaganda it’s some bullshit from the steam forum system it’s fake
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Sep 16, 2021 23:15
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Serf posted:this might actually fit better here this sort of stuff got me thinking a while the worst part about getting informed about China is how much translation/context buffer there is that simply isn't mediated responsibly by most major vehicles and it's best to just hop on twitter and ask an English-speaking Chinese what they know about the situation of course, that's intentional. I am reminded of my prof of international econ talking about how the iron curtain was a western imposition on the USSR, talking about how sinister their closed society is, but institutional interest to get people to read Cyrillic was none (from the USA/UK at least). Obfuscation happens due to cultivated ignorance, not because the other side is casting shadows on themselves It seems a hundred times worse with China because of orientalism too tbqh. China is one of the oldest civilizations of the world, Mandarin is a tough language, etc so it is much easier to mystify the Chinese into a cipher, which, of course, works totally in favor with institutional interest. However, the feedback effect is such that while hot takes abound, nobody does the actual hard work of developing context and from the perspective of an imperial government, that's really loving bad, because you are wide loving open to liars, scammers and cretins of every sort, with incompetence seeping higher and higher until people who should know better look at a discord screenshot and think "holy poo poo that's some incredibly hot info!". Then it turns out that this dolt is a high state department official. loving lmao
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Sep 16, 2021 23:22
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when i asked for sources on that stuff i got links to a couple of instances of developers modifying their games which apparently means all of it is true lol
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Sep 16, 2021 23:26
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