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Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

All of the studies I've seen with Moderna show that outside of the people most susceptible to covid anyways (old and certain comorbidities), moderna shots are still holding strong without as significant a drop as pfizer.

Pfizer should have probably been branded as a three shot series from the getgo. Moderna does have some drop off, but it's mostly in the high risk group which it sounds like they're recommending get boosted. Deaths and severe cases are still the domain of the unvaccinated. The severe breakthroughs and very rare deaths are almost exclusively people 70+.

The C-SPAM covid thread has been freaking out for months, and it isn't all justified. Some stuff they're spot on, but I don't know here.

I did see something a few days ago re: long covid in that in many cases it isn't permanent damage - rather the person is still suffering from covid in the gut and other places. Vaccination tends to resolve these issues.

The issues related to lung damage and any damage caused by blood clots isn't going away, though.

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:24

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 20:49

Tiny Timbs: Sep 6, 2008

I checked in on the cspam thread a week ago and saw a guy concern trolling about the long term effects of mRNA to the point where somebody said they were really scared they made the wrong choice to get vaccinated

A+ good job

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:34

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

MazelTovCocktail posted:

I’m just going to tel them my immune system sucks…which isn’t entirely untrue. Especially since Modernia seems to be the best overall.

Well...

https://twitter.com/megtirrell/status/1438965256441761792?s=19

Edit: healthcare folks included

Mr. Nice! posted:

Pfizer should have probably been branded as a three shot series from the getgo. Moderna does have some drop off, but it's mostly in the high risk group which it sounds like they're recommending get boosted. Deaths and severe cases are still the domain of the unvaccinated. The severe breakthroughs and very rare deaths are almost exclusively people 70+.

What really sucks is that there's no magical "if you have Xamount of antibodies, you're fine" because of T-cells and crazy immune system poo poo. And it's not like you can stick a human immune system into a salt-spray aging chamber, it basically all has to be study data.

Fallom posted:

I checked in on the cspam thread a week ago and saw a guy concern trolling about the long term effects of mRNA to the point where somebody said they were really scared they made the wrong choice to get vaccinated

A+ good job

jesus gently caress, this is facebook bullshit :cripes:

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Sep 17, 2021

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:35

Hyrax Attack!: Jan 13, 2009; We demand to be taken seriously

Fallom posted:

I checked in on the cspam thread a week ago and saw a guy concern trolling about the long term effects of mRNA to the point where somebody said they were really scared they made the wrong choice to get vaccinated

A+ good job

Lol I've avoided cspam for a while but fun to pop into D&D to speculate if it's the land mods forgot. Last time I checked they weren't even discussing news just yelling about insults they had sent or were planning to send via PM.

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:44

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Lol to us with J&J

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:44

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

I haven�t heard anything about going to get a booster shot yet but cspam has people asking about giving fake names to get one and it�s just a really radical place to be

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:45

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

the covid thread is fine if you wanna see someone melting down about covid peep the last few pages of epstein chat

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:47

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Lol to us with J&J

My wife just went in to a Pharmacy and just said she never had any of the vaccines (despite having the J/J) and they gave her a Pfizer no questions asked. She even just finished her second dose a week or so ago. She was just never happy with the results that came out for J/J vs the mRNA ones.

facialimpediment posted:

Well...

https://twitter.com/megtirrell/status/1438965256441761792?s=19

I'd be fine personally with just getting Pfizer, but I seem to recall Modernia should be coming soonish.

With that said....please let me vaccinate my kids FDA...please.

# ? Sep 17, 2021 21:53

Pigsfeet on Rye: Oct 22, 2008; I'm meat on the hoof

Stultus Maximus posted:

Looking at least at a BCD for not wearing an undershirt

Good ol' big chicken dinner. Maybe he'll go out like Yukio Mishima.

# ? Sep 17, 2021 22:05

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

facialimpediment posted:

Well...

https://twitter.com/megtirrell/status/1438965256441761792?s=19

Edit: healthcare folks included

Guess I'll be getting a booster soon to enable Bluetooth headphones

# ? Sep 17, 2021 22:45

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Good ol' big chicken dinner. Maybe he'll go out like Yukio Mishima.

Was going to write Confessions of an Oak Cluster, but ate all his crayons.

The lead contaminated ones

# ? Sep 17, 2021 23:41

MA-Horus: Dec 3, 2006; I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Canada approved the Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca vaccines, so the names got changed to the brand names

Moderna is SpikeVax. I got that SpikeVax juice and feeling fine.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 00:32

Marshal Prolapse: Jun 23, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

quote:

Secret Talks and a Hidden Agenda: Behind the U.S. Defense Deal that France Called a �Betrayal�

In meeting after meeting with their French counterparts, U.S. officials gave no heads-up about their plans to upend France�s largest defense contract

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/politics/us-france-australia-betrayal.html

After the last few years a pissing/shouting match with the French almost seems quaint. :v:

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:17

Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

I'm awfully curious just broke the camel's back and led to the cancellation. Do diesel subs really suddenly make less sense in the theater somehow? Did the French royally bungle the contract over the last five years? What the gently caress is Australia, a country with no nuclear industry to speak of, going to do to fuel and maintain a bunch of nuclear reactors (beside pay out the rear end for someone else to do it)? Did UK/US just offer a massive bribe?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:39

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

US gives them a stronger ally and better boats? Seems straightforward-ish.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:43

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

France recalled their US and Australian ambassadors over it, so they're definitely pissed.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:44

A Bad Poster: Sep 25, 2006; Seriously, shut the fuck up.

Getting pissed is just what the French do. They'll get over it. What else are they going to do?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:46

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Pick a fight and duel with croissants?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 01:48

Chiwie: Oct 21, 2010; DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm awfully curious just broke the camel's back and led to the cancellation. Do diesel subs really suddenly make less sense in the theater somehow? Did the French royally bungle the contract over the last five years? What the gently caress is Australia, a country with no nuclear industry to speak of, going to do to fuel and maintain a bunch of nuclear reactors (beside pay out the rear end for someone else to do it)? Did UK/US just offer a massive bribe?

There was a lot of shitfuckery with the tender. Japan had a offer that was better and cheaper. The problem guy that wrote the tender left defence and was snapped up by the French, pretty much told them the exact stuff they needed to do to win the contract, despite it being for a worse sub and costing a hell of a lot more.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:00

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

The American soldiers must leave!
:911:

cool, cool, can we borrow a shovel?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:01

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm awfully curious just broke the camel's back and led to the cancellation. Do diesel subs really suddenly make less sense in the theater somehow? Did the French royally bungle the contract over the last five years? What the gently caress is Australia, a country with no nuclear industry to speak of, going to do to fuel and maintain a bunch of nuclear reactors (beside pay out the rear end for someone else to do it)? Did UK/US just offer a massive bribe?

i thought australia had a ton of uranium

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:06

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm awfully curious just broke the camel's back and led to the cancellation. Do diesel subs really suddenly make less sense in the theater somehow? Did the French royally bungle the contract over the last five years? What the gently caress is Australia, a country with no nuclear industry to speak of, going to do to fuel and maintain a bunch of nuclear reactors (beside pay out the rear end for someone else to do it)? Did UK/US just offer a massive bribe?

Submarine reactors you buy once and they sit in their tube for 30+ years with fairly routine maintenance but no refueling. Really no issue there.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:08

Nuclear Tourist: Apr 7, 2005

Business Insider has a pretty good write up on what made the Aussies pull the plug. Apart from major cost overruns there seems to have been some, uh, slight differences in work culture.

Business Insider posted:

While officials in France appeared blindsided by the move — with French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian accusing Australia of a "stab in the back" — the deal had been on shaky ground almost since its inception in 2016.

Extensive budget disputes that meant that the deal wasn't formally signed until 2019, three years after Australia announced its deal with France's Naval Group, in which the government is the majority shareholder.

The project to replace Australia's aging Collins-class submarines was supposed to cost $36.5 billion, Politico reported, but the cost had nearly doubled by this year to an estimated $66 billion.

The deal had been further complicated by Australia's insistence on Naval Group completing much of the construction work in Australia.

This part is a bit funny:

Business Insider posted:

An example of the gulf in working practices was when Australian officials were left "stunned" to hear discussion of "la rentrée," the process by which French workers would get ready to restart work after the whole company stopped working in August for a month-long vacation

French officials in return were likewise said to be surprised that Australian officials expected meetings to begin on time, citing a French phenomenon known as a "diplomatic 15 minutes" whereby people were considered to be on time as long as they arrived within 15 minutes of the start time.

The report also mentioned French workers requesting more understanding of their need for long lunch breaks.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:19

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

shame on an IGA posted:

The American soldiers must leave!
cool, cool, can we borrow a shovel?

I'm gonna look dumb as hell, but what's this a reference to? if It's the times article, I'm not dealing with a got dang paywayll

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:23

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Milo and POTUS posted:

I'm gonna look dumb as hell, but what's this a reference to? if It's the times article, I'm not dealing with a got dang paywayll

paraphrasing a conversation between Dean Rusk and DeGaulle when france withdrew from NATO in 1966, one of the all time great :iceburn:

s of history

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:26

Wingnut Ninja: Jan 11, 2003; Mostly Harmless

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Business Insider has a pretty good write up on what made the Aussies pull the plug. Apart from major cost overruns there seems to have been some, uh, slight differences in work culture.

This part is a bit funny:

I learned about this tradition when we were sundowning the Group II E-2C in 2019 and selling some of the old stuff to France. The simulator guys were scrambling to get it packed up and out of there by the end of July, because otherwise the process was going to grind to a halt until September.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 02:59

Butter Activities: May 4, 2018

I�m on Frances side I want long lunches

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:17

M_Gargantua: Oct 16, 2006; STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES; Exciting Lemon

What you mean your country doesn't just take off one to two months in the middle of summer to relax and vacation? What sort of uncivilized ravel are you?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:20

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Haaland is moving the department of the interior back to DC. I forgot turmp relocated them to Grand Junction in a bid to gently caress up the department.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:24

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

M_Gargantua posted:

What you mean your country doesn't just take off one to two months in the middle of summer to relax and vacation? What sort of uncivilized ravel are you?

The reformation was a mistake.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:27

Nick Soapdish: Apr 27, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

I'm gonna look dumb as hell, but what's this a reference to? if It's the times article, I'm not dealing with a got dang paywayll

Re-interment of dead WWII from French soil to US

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:30

Cugel the Clever: Apr 5, 2009; I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

i thought australia had a ton of uranium

It does, but no actual power generation, but for a single reactor for medical isotope creation. Or at least according to this thread, not something I otherwise have the slightest knowledge about :
https://twitter.com/EngageStrategy1/status/1438727145124139009?s=20

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:30

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

I'm in awe of his bad a name "spikevax" is

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:44

Terrifying Effigies: Oct 22, 2008; Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Best Friends posted:

I'm in awe of his bad a name "spikevax" is

Compared to whatever "Comirnaty" is?

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:49

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 4 days!

Cugel the Clever posted:

It does, but no actual power generation, but for a single reactor for medical isotope creation. Or at least according to this thread, not something I otherwise have the slightest knowledge about :
https://twitter.com/EngageStrategy1/status/1438727145124139009?s=20

Is it just a public opinion thing, or is there anything preventing Australia from putting together nuclear power generation? If I'm not mistaken, that continent is about as tectonically stable as it gets so the risk should be minimal.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 03:59

Jaguars!: Jul 31, 2012

Terrifying Effigies posted:

Compared to whatever "Comirnaty" is?

wiki posted:

Comirnaty "represents a combination of the terms COVID‑19, mRNA, community, and immunity".

Oh hey, my theory that it was named by a single corporate idiot in an impenetrable fog of cocaine and buzzwords was almost certainly correct.

# ? Sep 18, 2021 04:00

Best Friends: Nov 4, 2011

It's a product that everyone needs, but some people are afraid of it. Some of those who are afraid of it are afraid of anything that punctures their skin. Forgettable would be a massive, massive improvement imo. It's a massive own goal. Like, arguably the worst possible name

# ? Sep 18, 2021 04:00