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TBF, I dont like negative numbers in meteorology either. It’s cause it’s loving cold E: 46 is a real number, it’s even positive.
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crispix posted:so much for bloody carbon emissions global warming my arse end of woooooooooooigh Carbon carbon everywhere but not a drop to drink.
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The average age in this country is 40. Half of the population were last in school at least 25 years ago and may have left at 16. The fact that a good chunk of people don't understand basic concepts is a just statistics.
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My favourite number is 142857. It's loving amazing and I have no idea how it does what it does.
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Unkempt posted:My favourite number is 142857. It's loving amazing and I have no idea how it does what it does. I was literally about to reply with this exact same number. It is glorious.
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Tsietisin posted:I was literally about to reply with this exact same number. It is glorious. Quit posting your account PINs!
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5318008 was always my favourite but whatevs
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1439135453576417282?s=21 Yeh the timeline is amazing, it just started out with him only really giving a poo poo about Gillick and then transform from from cold hard impartial legal language beep boop lawyer to full on anti-transphobe as he learned more and more about the humans behind all of this.
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A lot of schad re: Andrew Neil's departure from GBeebiesquote:When Andrew Neil took a leave of absence from GB News a fortnight after its 13 June launch, the rightwing news channel and its star presenter spent weeks insisting he was taking a long break to “recharge [his] batteries”. 
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^^  stev posted:Numeracy is pretty terrible across the board in this country. A majority of voters don't understand the very basics of how marginal tax rates work, so it's not surprising that some people can't grasp negative numbers. It doesn't help that the whole thing is often presented as some kind of alien exercise in absurdity, like the number of times I've seen things like this on social media  learnincurve posted:Yeh the timeline is amazing, it just started out with him only really giving a poo poo about Gillick and then transform from from cold hard impartial legal language beep boop lawyer to full on anti-transphobe as he learned more and more about the humans behind all of this. (The thing it gives is  )
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Sometimes it's baffling how technnologically and scientifically illiterate people can be, though for me it's often in computer contexts. I have a rather dodgy housemate who I'm pretty sure keeps stealing food and never admits it, and he's recently proclaimed himself a networking expert and tried to sort out our internet issues (which amount to 'it's a big house with a single wifi AP and a lot of people using it'). That alone was kindof funny to me since I worked on various network/iot devices as an embedded programmer, but when he finally dug through the router UI and came to the conclusion that my ethernet connected iot device 'chugs' 1000 mbps and that's why his connection is slow, in an extremely accusatory manner, it just made go, well, how do you even defend yourself from something like that. He also claims to have worked in IT but based on the above I reckon it's another one of his lies.
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Guavanaut posted:It doesn't help that the whole thing is often presented as some kind of alien exercise in absurdity, like the number of times I've seen things like this on social media Yeah you never see "hur hur I suck at geography, right guys?" The most annoying maths things I used to see on social media were the ones like Picture + picture + picture = 12 Picture + picture + picture = 9 (sum of subtly different pictures) = ? Because they're not maths problems, they're trick questions designed to cause arguments I did like this one though  Because it's not a pictographic trick, it's a simple-looking equation with fruits in place of letters, which does indeed have a positive integer solution - it's just that the smallest solution involves 80-digit integers, and requires elliptic curves to solve (which for context, I had only previously heard about in the solution to Fermat's Last Theorem). E: and as the link says, the number of people who can't solve it is WAY above 95%, and includes mathematicians who are a different kind of mathematician Bobstar fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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stev posted:Numeracy is pretty terrible across the board in this country. A majority of voters don't understand the very basics of how marginal tax rates work, so it's not surprising that some people can't grasp negative numbers. I worked with a woman who was an accountant and had previously worked at HMRC who tried to turn down a payrise because it would move her into a higher tax band.
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Well, working in IT I am pretty confident that guy worked in IT. I meet those people constantly on the other end of support tickets. They treat computers as inscrutable magical devices that require rituals to tame, instead of the boring but scrutable amalgamations of code, bugs, and lint. tl;dr I am a Tech Priest
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GRADUIT OF THE SCOOL OV LIFE AND ARD NOCKS M8 END OV SIMPAL AS 
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Antigravitas posted:Well, working in IT I am pretty confident that guy worked in IT. I meet those people constantly on the other end of support tickets. They treat computers as inscrutable magical devices that require rituals to tame, instead of the boring but scrutable amalgamations of code, bugs, and lint. They are magical, powered by the blood sacrifice from the knuckles of the build techs who assembled them...
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Praise the omnissiah! I'm also in IT and i've reached the level of seniority where everything is magic and can only be fixed by prayer. So much so that I even paint mini versions of super advanced IT helpdesk workers. 
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Numeracy in this country is atrocious. My work used to involve producing monthly reports on asset performance across a whole range of KPIs with nice graphs, moving averages and so forth. My team included not only analysts but some other folk working on other aspects of performance but because they were in my team, at our monthly team meetings I would go through the report with them because even if they were not analysts, I felt they should understand what was in the report. Anyway, one day I noticed that one of the women off the graduate training scheme* was actually not understanding the graphs at all. After that I paid more attention to other peoples' understanding (from their facial expressions more than anything else) - all nodding and so forth in agreement - and I realized that many people cannot read a fairly simple graph, and the most senior of them - including board members - were never ever going to admit that. So I made it a rule for my analysts that no graph was to leave our department without 3 bullet points on it as to why the graph was interesting! ("But it's obvious!" they cried - "It's obvious to you and me" I responded, "but not to Mr Board Member or Mrs Regional Director and they're never going to admit it") And one time about 35 years ago, I was recruiting clerical staff and one of the roles was to calculate refunds dating back several years at a time when VAT rates were changing frequently. So I used to give them a 'simple' test. I didn't rigidly time it, said they could use calculators or pen & paper as they wished. There were no trick questions, if a question looked easy it was because it was. OMG - 99% of all known people would answer Q1 "What is 15% of 100" with 6.67. It took me weeks to fathom out why they were giving that answer! (100/15 = 6.67) so I figured it was a vaguely remembered rule from school that 10% is divide your number by 10, misapplied. *first class honours btw in arty farty. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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keep punching joe posted:
E: drat you crispix learnincurve posted:Yeh the timeline is amazing, it just started out with him only really giving a poo poo about Gillick and then transform from from cold hard impartial legal language beep boop lawyer to full on anti-transphobe as he learned more and more about the humans behind all of this.
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I was talking about air temperature, dumbdumbs. If you’re regularly experiencing air temps of 100C I would suggest removing yourself from the oven.
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Jakabite posted:I was talking about air temperature, dumbdumbs. If you’re regularly experiencing air temps of 100C I would suggest removing yourself from the oven. 100C isn't even gas mark 1, harden the gently caress up.
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working in the public sector, i have found that the layers of management are infested with people who are anti-education. they are invariably people who have poo poo for brains and have bullied and intimidated their way to the height of their incompetence and they fear and therefore despise anyone who has any kind of higher education
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they think all of computing - the entire discipline - is microsoft excel and word
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goddamnedtwisto posted:100C isn't even gas mark 1, harden the gently caress up. Well what is then smarty pants? Do you expect us to believe there's some kind of (snort) negative gas mark scale? 
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Jakabite posted:I was talking about air temperature, dumbdumbs. If you’re regularly experiencing air temps of 100C I would suggest removing yourself from the oven. Look at this pleb not going to the sauna regularly.
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crispix posted:they are invariably people who have poo poo for brains and have bullied and intimidated their way to the height of their incompetence and they fear and therefore despise anyone who has any kind of higher education She was promoted to IT because she had been there so long without doing anything disastrously wrong they wanted to bump her to senior management, but IT was the only department without SMG representation.
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I'm a big dumb moron who can't even use Excel in more than the most basic functionality and is absolutely pitiful at anything more maths than basic arithmetic and the few moments of geometry and algebra that haven't leaked from my brain in the 18 years since I left school and even I have absolutely no problem with conceptualising negative numbers. I tried watching that imaginary number video someone posted and got loving nothing from it though. I recognise it's clearly useful in some context but fortunately not a context I have to worry about. The way he matter of factly goes "but it does cross the X axis if you add an extra dimension" just left me slack jawed. And what if you add 8 more? Can you just do that, keep adding dimensions until you get an answer you want? Or is that 1 extra a limit? Fortunately I won't ever need to know
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Or the friend of one of these people who has failed upward. Our IT manager at university had no idea what Active directory was, and constantly proposed things directly to SMG that made no sense and weren't even theoretically possible, and then leaving us to get in trouble for 'failing' when "Sarah promised us it would be fairly straightforward."
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this lovely island's lack of numeracy is why the British Empire was a horrible idea well, that and Europe's ascendency over Asia in general, but to prevent that from happening, you'd probably need to strangle Genghis Khan in the cradle
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crispix posted:working in the public sector, i have found that the layers of management are infested with people who are anti-education. they are invariably people who have poo poo for brains and have bullied and intimidated their way to the height of their incompetence and they fear and therefore despise anyone who has any kind of higher education A manager in my directorate emailed around last summer - during the lockdown - that staff who hadn't got their statutory and mandatory training up to date would lose their home-working privileges. This made me rather angry for a couple of reasons: they weren't "home-working privileges", they were measures to reduce the spread of a deadly loving illness, and; most of the statutory and mandatory training that people weren't up to date with was face-to-face training, which had been suspended due to the deadly loving illness. I'm sure this manager is nice if you interact with them regularly, but gently caress me they need lessons in how to not be a massive tool.
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forkboy84 posted:A Sarah Michelle Gellar in every department? Seems extravagant to me, typical public sector bloat I was trying to work out of it was Sarah Michelle Gellar, SuperMechaGodzilla or a gun.
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forkboy84 posted:I'm a big dumb moron who can't even use Excel in more than the most basic functionality and is absolutely pitiful at anything more maths than basic arithmetic and the few moments of geometry and algebra that haven't leaked from my brain in the 18 years since I left school and even I have absolutely no problem with conceptualising negative numbers. I would recommend the YT channel Numberphile, its great for explaining concepts on things. Hows this for a mind bender about extra dimensions. Take a square box, and fill it with 8 spheres so that they are just touching each other and sides. Now imagine the space in the very midddle, inbetween the spheres inside the box. You can make a smaller sphere that are just touching the sides of the original spheres. As you increase in dimension, that smaller sphere gets bigger and bigger. So eventually the smaller sphere is larger than the original box. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mceaM2_zQd8 for it all, something simple just makes you loving love maths.
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forkboy84 posted:A Sarah Michelle Gellar in every department? Seems extravagant to me, typical public sector bloat
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Bobstar posted:Well what is then smarty pants? Do you expect us to believe there's some kind of (snort) negative gas mark scale? No, that would be ridiculous. There is in fact a far, far more sensible situation where each successive drop of 25 degrees (fahrenheit) below 275 (gas mark 1) halves the gas mark, so 250 degrees is gas mark 1/2, 225 is 1/4, and so on. Therefore 212 degrees (100C) is more or less halfway between gas mark 1/8 (200) and gas mark 1/4 (225), so it would be gas mark 3/16. Duh.
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forkboy84 posted:The way he matter of factly goes "but it does cross the X axis if you add an extra dimension" just left me slack jawed. And what if you add 8 more? Can you just do that, keep adding dimensions until you get an answer you want? Or is that 1 extra a limit? Guavanaut posted:you can keep going up by orders but every time you find one that works, it loses a fundamental property of numbers, like quaternions are noncommutative and x·y isn't necessarily y·x, and octonions are also nonassociative so (x + y) + z isn't always x + (y + z) and eventually you just end up as things that don't work as numbers. And it's absolute madness that some of this has actual real world uses but :thatsengineering: So like once you're past 8 you end up with numbers except you can't add them together or some absurdity.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:No, that would be ridiculous. 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:No, that would be ridiculous.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:*Xeno nodding sagely* So you can never turn the oven off, got it. Ovens emit blackbody radiation while turned off.
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