Toaster Beef posted:That's technically true, but also Ertz had 1,000+ yards in 2018. I think the Eagles also don't generally have a standout WR that gets targeted a lot. Doug spread the ball around a lot and used TEs as a safety for Wentz, so it's not like a WR was getting a shitload of catches per game.
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euphronius posted:They had amazing TEs and pass catching Rbs Yeah, I'm talking exclusively WRs. Despite a paucity of WR talent, they've done well utilizing great TEs and pass-catching RBs. Going from Celek to Ertz and now Goedert has been awesome, and it seems like the Eagles just sorta pluck really solid RBs out of the ether on a regular basis. Legitimately forgot Jeffery existed. Big part of that 2017 team, though. He's another example of a WR who delivered for us and was seemingly gone in a flash.
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They def have a cap management structure that does not have WRs at the top of the food chain which honestly has worked out for them Jeffries was the last one they paid anything at all
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He got hurt (which happens all the time in the nfl) and had a big old personality conflict with the trash chud antivax poo poo fucker which I can understand
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Jeffery, Jackson, Maclin, Ertz (who is not a real TE), Celek, Avant, Torrey, TO, and now Smith and Reagor. I don't think its a realm in which we necessarily fail, this is just Eagles fans being mad about a few bum years at the position. Jeffery counts in that he gave us 1.5 years but I would say he was basically a bust. I had very high hopes for him but he pumpkined hard.
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Sep 18, 2021 15:18
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Though I am definitely a Fulgham truther and believe it was stupid and bad of us to cut him.
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Sep 18, 2021 15:20
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He got hurt he didn’t pumpkin lol Also he played for a QB WHO LITERALLY DID NOT THROW TO WRS
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Though I am definitely a Fulgham truther and believe it was stupid and bad of us to cut him.  It's ridiculous that they wouldn't at least keep him on as the 4th or 5th guy. I guess who needs a big receiver that can get open downfield?
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euphronius posted:He got hurt he didn’t pumpkin lol Bruh it's not about his direct production, it's about how he opens up the offense. Jeffery fell off a cliff in 2019 before the Lisfranc and 2020 he had a full year to recover from it and still did piddling poo poo. I call that pumpkining.
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I think the James thrash / Todd pinkston years just caused collective psychosis on eagles fans about WRs due to the - at the time - immense cultural influence of the idiots at WIP morning show who thought the situation was the worst thing in the world even tho it was a west coast offense (spread the ball around)
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ASAPRockySituation posted:Bruh it's not about his direct production, it's about how he opens up the offense. Jeffery fell off a cliff in 2019 before the Lisfranc and 2020 he had a full year to recover from it and still did piddling poo poo. I call that pumpkining. I’m not looking it up but I believe he had a bad shoulder injury in 2018 too which he never really recovered from
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Every beat reporter who went to training camp said he was dogshit all camp Also JJ A-W is their huge receiver atm
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Sep 18, 2021 15:27
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Quez Watkins has shown a lot more to me than the guy who was cut
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Toaster Beef posted:That's technically true, but also Ertz had 1,000+ yards in 2018. Weird that Agholor was able to catch the ball from Foles that year and from Carr last year. I wonder what was different the other years?
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MrLogan posted:Weird that Agholor was able to catch the ball from Foles that year and from Carr last year. I wonder what was different the other years? Ikr I was on that immediately last year Algol are had to go anyway due to his contract . He’s good but not good enough for a post rookie scale deal (From the eagles POV) Smith is probably going to get one tho. Raegor will be gone even tho he seems to be ok .
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euphronius posted:I’m not looking it up but I believe he had a bad shoulder injury in 2018 too which he never really recovered from He did recover from it and in 2018 he did okay. You've internalized excuses propagated by WIP
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Motherfucker how dare you
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MrLogan posted:Weird that Agholor was able to catch the ball from Foles that year and from Carr last year. I wonder what was different the other years? I've never really been clear on this: Is the assertion here that Agholor sandbagged Wentz? Or is it more that Wentz had gently caress awful communication with everyone who wasn't a TE?
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Sep 18, 2021 16:01
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Wentz was (is) a terrible QB who made WRs look way worse Both on the field and off
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I believed that Foles and Wentz and Vick would all be franchise QBs. I don't believe in Hurts. Hurts is going to win us a Superbowl.
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I guess I'm mostly just pushing back against the assertion that Agholor only turned it on in 2017 once Foles stepped in. He definitely caught a higher percentage of the passes thrown his way (something like 15% more, IIRC) and averaged about one more reception per game, but his yards/game dropped a bit and he went from eight TDs in 13 weeks to one TD in six weeks. Like, I'm with y'all on Wentz being a shitlord, I just think Agholor was doing well for himself in 2017 even with Wentz at QB.
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2017 wentz wasn’t that bad
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I was at the game in LA where he got hurt. The whole stadium was chanting "Big Dick Nick!" (It was 90% eagles fans in the crowd.) You would have no idea Wentz was on track to be a very real MVP contender that year the way everyone reacted to Foles.
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Sep 18, 2021 23:21
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FogHelmut posted:(It was 90% eagles fans in the crowd.) Lol wtf?
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Sep 18, 2021 23:27
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The rams had no LA fans the first couple years
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euphronius posted:The rams had no LA fans the first couple years They still dont
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euphronius posted:The rams had no LA fans the first couple years Yeah the 60's were rough
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EagLOLs
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blarzgh posted:EagLOLs I was having so much fun to just complete utter shock and disappointment and you know what I deserve it
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Carson Wentz went to a new conference, a new division, and by god he still thinks it's clownball time. Shovel pass INT, lmao
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I mean the Colts offensive line is bad. The rams are cutting through it like butter
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Ready to see this cowboys game
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Hurts bad Eagy bad
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End of an era Rip hurts
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Well, they tried.
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I'm not surprise the eagles lost to SF. 49ers defense is legit, they can run the rock and Hurts isn't built to attack them. I gotta check the highlights and see how Quez Watkins had 2 catches for a buck seventeen and a 91 yard reception without a TD. SF is tough and the NFCW is ungodly.
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BiggerBoat posted:I gotta check the highlights I implore you to reconsider
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