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i've been around a lot longer than Tesla and i've never killed anyone or even caused a car crash. and i'm dumb as poo poo!
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Sep 17, 2021 14:53
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in terms of rate of accidents or disengagements per miles driven humans are still much better than computers at driving cars
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Sep 17, 2021 17:48
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cant be any worse then having professionals do it
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Sep 17, 2021 17:49
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Cloks posted:how many people have you hit with your car when a speed bump isnt a speed bump.
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Sep 17, 2021 18:08
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Shear Modulus posted:in terms of rate of accidents or disengagements per miles driven humans are still much better than computers at driving cars even if you count all of the cars driving in the background simulation of GTA games?
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Sep 17, 2021 19:29
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I'm willing to believe that the computer is better at normal operation than I am, but I have more faith in my ability to make judgments in edge-case decisions like "is that a black person or just a shadow" or "is that a tunnel or just a cleverly painted facade"
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Sep 17, 2021 19:35
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Shear Modulus posted:in terms of rate of accidents or disengagements per miles driven humans are still much better than computers at driving cars Not sure that's true- americans drive about 3 trillion miles a year and kill 6,000 pedestrians. The uber car killed a pedestrian so computers would have to rack up more than half a billion miles driven to get their body count per mile below that of humans, and I'm not sure they have.
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Sep 17, 2021 19:36
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Rutibex posted:even if you count all of the cars driving in the background simulation of GTA games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb0AgzRIYZM
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Sep 17, 2021 19:49
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30.5 Days posted:Not sure that's true- americans drive about 3 trillion miles a year and kill 6,000 pedestrians. The uber car killed a pedestrian so computers would have to rack up more than half a billion miles driven to get their body count per mile below that of humans, and I'm not sure they have. also computers would need to get a lot better at improvising and filling in missing information and filtering out noise, which is kinda hard if you don't train your AI to apply thousands of heuristic guesses across billions of simulated hypothetical scenarios and/or develop AGI that can modify itself and invent new skills on the fly... neither of which is even remotely feasible
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Sep 17, 2021 19:51
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the obvious solution to this is mechanical turks embedded in the cars with a life support system duh
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Sep 17, 2021 19:54
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Kitfox88 posted:the obvious solution to this is mechanical turks embedded in the cars with a life support system duh If you're gotten to a certain point in creepy anime made in abyss...
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Sep 17, 2021 19:56
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maybe not so cyberpunk but definitely dystopia https://twitter.com/DrDanSchumacher/status/1438596084138450952
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Sep 17, 2021 20:01
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hobbesmaster posted:There are several available to Biden or Garland. They are part of the system that wants this to happen tho
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Sep 17, 2021 21:45
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silentsnack posted:also computers would need to get a lot better at improvising and filling in missing information and filtering out noise, which is kinda hard if you don't train your AI to apply thousands of heuristic guesses across billions of simulated hypothetical scenarios and/or develop AGI that can modify itself and invent new skills on the fly... neither of which is even remotely feasible Or, use loving LIDAR, which is how everything that isn't Tesla decides where things are. But that's not cool and flashy enough for Musk.
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Sep 17, 2021 21:54
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bawfuls posted:maybe not so cyberpunk but definitely dystopia Looks like somebody needs an Amazon™ Crying Box.
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Sep 17, 2021 21:58
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30.5 Days posted:Not sure that's true- americans drive about 3 trillion miles a year and kill 6,000 pedestrians. The uber car killed a pedestrian so computers would have to rack up more than half a billion miles driven to get their body count per mile below that of humans, and I'm not sure they have. "how many collisions have autonomous cars caused" isn't the right metric because they have human safety drivers that are supposed to take over when the AV system makes a mistake that would lead to a collision. The industry safety measure is disengagements, ie when the human driver disengages the autopilot and takes over. Counting collisions instead of disengagements would imply that in the video a few posts ago where the Tesla car decides to abandon its planned route and swerve into some pedestrians and the driver has to quickly grab the wheel, nothing unsafe happened. While miles driven per disengagement isn't a perfect measure and can be gamed to overstate AV safety by counting a lot of miles driven on controlled test courses rather than public roads, the rate of disengagements is still much much higher than the rate of collisions for human drivers. Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 23:30 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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Sep 17, 2021 23:11
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Shear Modulus posted:"how many collisions have autonomous cars caused" isn't the right metric because they have human safety drivers that are supposed to take over when the AV system makes a mistake that would lead to a collision. The industry safety measure is disengagements, ie when the human driver disengages the autopilot and takes over. Counting collisions instead of disengagements would imply that in the video a few posts ago where the Tesla car decides to abandon its planned route and swerve into some pedestrians and the driver has to quickly grab the wheel, nothing unsafe happened. I don't know why I thought you said that computers had a better record of driving cars, but I did.
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Sep 18, 2021 02:11
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lol i also misread your post and thought you were saying that as well. glad we're in agreement.
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Sep 18, 2021 04:17
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Powered Descent posted:Looks like somebody needs an Amazon™ Crying Box.  
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Sep 18, 2021 04:38
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Shrecknet posted:would be interested in seeing a Tesla navigate chaff/a tickertape parade An airplane crashed because a wasp built a nest in one of the sensors. I wonder what's the Tesla equivalent to that.
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Sep 18, 2021 08:37
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Probably an Indiana Jones style snake nest in the weird fabric underbelly
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Sep 18, 2021 10:49
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tokin opposition posted:If you're gotten to a certain point in creepy anime made in abyss... im not a mod so I didn’t stick with it very long
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Sep 18, 2021 14:05
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lmao (archive.org link to bypass paywall) https://web.archive.org/web/20210918105356/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/opinion/facebook-instagram-teens.html and also this which was linked to https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039 the subsection about them knowing how horrible instagram is for teen girls is like, well duh actionjackson has issued a correction as of 15:18 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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Sep 18, 2021 15:14
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HATE. HATE. https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1215007789547999235?s=20
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Sep 18, 2021 15:20
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lol they programmed their AI to calculate box office earnings based on location and actors alone. like it doesn't even matter if a film is well written or has good music or anything, the success all comes down to which celebrity is in it i wonder if they are correct......
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Sep 18, 2021 15:29
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Rutibex posted:lol they programmed their AI to calculate box office earnings based on location and actors alone. like it doesn't even matter if a film is well written or has good music or anything, the success all come down to which celebrity is in it Hollywood has always thought this, the point of having an “A list” was to know that they could put anyone from that list in a film and it’d at least break even no matter how bad it was.
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Sep 18, 2021 15:30
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Actually teslas AI has caused zero accidents because it hands control back to the driver a moment before the collision making it technically the driver's fault.
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Sep 18, 2021 15:40
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Nothus posted:Actually teslas AI has caused zero accidents because it hands control back to the driver a moment before the collision making it technically the driver's fault. one weird trick, pedestrians hate this!
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Sep 18, 2021 15:44
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hobbesmaster posted:Hollywood has always thought this, the point of having an “A list” was to know that they could put anyone from that list in a film and it’d at least break even no matter how bad it was. I think that might have made sense 40 years ago but I don’t think anyone gives a poo poo whose In the AAA titles now as they are all franchises and the actors are just replaceable cogs
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Sep 18, 2021 15:47
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The Nastier Nate posted:I think that might have made sense 40 years ago but I don’t think anyone gives a poo poo whose In the AAA titles now as they are all franchises and the actors are just replaceable cogs i wonder about that sometimes because im also dubious, but sometimes i think there's maybe something to it. im so entirely disconnected from the big mass of people who are way more invested in celebs and pop culture generally that I feel theres a good chance my instincts are wrong. at least a few certain people get butts in seats i think. remaining Movie Stars like tom cruise and will smith for example. maybe??? or not. i dont fuckin know i'm real doubtful that hollywood execs are really gonna let some beep boop machine steal any of the power they get to wield over the industry tho.
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Sep 18, 2021 15:55
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the star of shang chi posted in asian incel subreddits lol
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Sep 18, 2021 15:59
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Bulgakov posted:
Don’t worry, the studio execs will still have enough power to cajole young actresses into bed in exchange for a walk on role on Fast and the Furious 16 or Transformers: fight of the fight
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Sep 18, 2021 16:08
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Bulgakov posted:i'm real doubtful that hollywood execs are really gonna let some beep boop machine steal any of the power they get to wield over the industry tho. They're gonna use it as an additional weapon. "I'm sorry, Denzel, but according to the best calculations produced by our machine someone of, uh, your nature in a leading role simply won't bring the magnitude of international profit our investors are seeking at this time. Maybe if you showed some flexibility with the level of your renumeration package we could find you a supporting role? The machine says we can not offer any more than _ otherwise we'll have no choice but to hire Chris Pratt."
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Sep 18, 2021 16:34
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The Nastier Nate posted:I think that might have made sense 40 years ago but I don’t think anyone gives a poo poo whose In the AAA titles now as they are all franchises and the actors are just replaceable cogs there’s definitely still recent stuff propped up by the rock for example.
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Sep 18, 2021 16:50
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It's funny, but is it going to get them off their tractors?
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Sep 18, 2021 16:56
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hobbesmaster posted:there’s definitely still recent stuff propped up by the rock for example. Yeah there are definitely still "vehicle" movies (and I don't mean F&F) Something like Skyscraper was a total nothing of a sales pitch beyond "Dwayne Johnson does lots of action sequences"
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Sep 18, 2021 17:02
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quote:The AI system can assess an actor’s value in any territory and how much a film is expected to earn in theaters.
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Sep 18, 2021 17:19
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lmao get ready to see white actors in black, brown, and yellow face make a come back
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Sep 18, 2021 17:58
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Agrajag posted:lmao get ready to see white actors in black, brown, and yellow face make a come back buddy it never left. didn't you see Ghost In The Shell or Cloud Atlas or uhhh I swear there was a blackface one but the only thing that comes to mind is Tropic Thunder which doesn't count
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Sep 18, 2021 18:19
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this is so old it’s pre pandemic
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Sep 18, 2021 18:55
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