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Edge & Christian posted:The plot, such as it is, is that Youngblood is reunited by If I remember my full Extreme Studios readthrough from a year or two ago, Agent Graves is the devil. So that makes even less sense than it already did.
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JordanKai posted:I completely forgot about Millar's dire run on The Authority until now. How could you do this to me? But, Frank Quitely!
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Sep 17, 2021 03:01
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Edge & Christian posted:The rundown was that Rob Liefeld has spent the past 30-ish years trying to chase whatever is hip and relevant and also trying to get Big Name Writers to do Youngblood stories, so in 2003, hot off Mark Millar doing the edgy Authority and the edgy Ultimates, Liefeld asked him to do a cynical and outrageous revamp of Youngblood, which was like a dumber and meaner X-Statix with the members of Youngblood being reality TV stars with endorsement deals doing loads of cocaine and gettin' blowjobs at hot tub orgies and cussin' a lot and just being cynical jerks. Jesus loving wept. I kinda want to read this now, then either burn it or keep it around as a cautionary tale of WHEN COMICS GO HORRIBLY WRONG. This sounds like when people talk about Late Stage Capitalism, but Late Stage ‘90’s Bullshit crossed with Late Stage Cancer and Late Stage Alcoholism/Cocaine Addiction. gently caress this poo poo, imma go re-read Bone. Seriously WHAT THE gently caress. Edit: is this in the running for the worst mainstream comic of all time? Does it beat Avengers 200? I think not because these aren’t characters anyone cares about, just bad approximations? Just reading that one page makes me think this takes the prize. gently caress this poo poo, sorry if I’m getting heated but this horrible even by Millar standards. Second edit: This is just Liefeld trying to write like Millar?!? gently caress. I’m done. I’m taking a walk then a shower. Bulgaroctonus fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Jesus loving wept. I kinda want to read this now, then either burn it or keep it around as a cautionary tale of WHEN COMICS GO HORRIBLY WRONG. This sounds like when people talk about Late Stage Capitalism, but Late Stage ‘90’s Bullshit crossed with Late Stage Cancer and Late Stage Alcoholism/Cocaine Addiction. gently caress this poo poo, imma go re-read Bone. Seriously WHAT THE gently caress. Nope, this was Millar being Millar. Do yourself a favor and never read a plot description of The Unfunnies. I've NEVER understood how Millar is so universally acclaimed as a writer.
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Sep 17, 2021 12:20
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Before he (presumably) buried his face in a mountain of coke and became a permanent edgelord, Millar did do some keen issues of Superman Adventures.
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Sep 17, 2021 13:00
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Edit: is this in the running for the worst mainstream comic of all time? Does it beat Avengers 200? This implies that Youngblood was "mainstream" after 1994. So, no.
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Sep 17, 2021 13:03
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Before he (presumably) buried his face in a mountain of coke and became a permanent edgelord, Millar did do some keen issues of Superman Adventures. Although if you like, there's a persistent rumor they were ghost-written by Grant Morrison.
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Sep 17, 2021 13:15
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Edge & Christian posted:1995: Thunderstrike dies and his book is canceled, proving that Thor Odinson is the real HERO FOR THE NINETIES RIP Thunderstrike. Taken too soon by the force of the ODINSPOOGE
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Sep 17, 2021 13:19
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Random Stranger posted:If I remember my full Extreme Studios readthrough from a year or two ago, Agent Graves is the devil. So that makes even less sense than it already did. Ah yes, of course *nods sagely*
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Sep 17, 2021 13:27
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Art is not truly nineties unless the artist's signature is on a tattered scrap of paper fluttering around somewhere in the foreground.
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Pastry of the Year posted:Art is not truly nineties unless the artist's signature is on a tattered scrap of paper fluttering around somewhere in the foreground. To this day, McFarlane still has my favorite signature of any artist. To me, it's so iconic and cool, even if I haven't picked up a comic he was involved with since middle school in 1993.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:To this day, McFarlane still has my favorite signature of any artist. To me, it's so iconic and cool, even if I haven't picked up a comic he was involved with since middle school in 1993. Ahem. 
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Sep 17, 2021 14:25
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It's true. Walt makes his signature a little brontosaurus which is objectively the best.
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Sep 17, 2021 17:59
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A Brontosaurus that swallowed the Technodrome.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Nope, this was Millar being Millar. Do yourself a favor and never read a plot description of The Unfunnies. Too late for that, unfortunately. There was short thread here a couple of years ago about Unfunnies, and all I can say is eesh.
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Sep 17, 2021 23:41
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Millar wrote that spiderman comic about Aunt May and Uncle Ben being swingers with Mary and Richard Parker, right? Or whichever of those four aren’t related by blood?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Millar wrote that spiderman comic about Aunt May and Uncle Ben being swingers with Mary and Richard Parker, right? Or whichever of those four aren’t related by blood? Millar's defense of this was that this was just ULTIMATE Spider-Man's origin, not the original.
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It just comes from a weird place, like we need to make May his biologocial mother because adoptive parents aren't realllll parents, amirite?
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Edge & Christian posted:Not swingers, it was like a teenage romance comic about May and Ben and Mary and Richard all working summers at some beach resort and long story short she cheats on Ben with his brother Richard and gets pregnant, and Ben know she cheated because he's sterile, and there's lots of angst and Mark Millar Writing Edgy Teens ending with May giving the baby to Richard and Mary to raise, but also... ending up marrying Ben anyway? And then I guess they all stay friends and just never ever mention the cheating of who the biological mother is because, you know, twist! I distinctly remember in an interview Millar said he wanted this to reignite interest in romance comics, but Millar likes to say dumb things all the time. The comic itself is bad even beyond the ultra absurd 'twist,' one little thing that oddly stuck out was at the end as soon as May either had Peter or got pregnant she starts dressing like Ditko Aunt May despite being like in her late teens still. It sadly is terrible enough that it's not even a fun bad comic. Shockingly they have yet to put it on Marvel Unlimited. I guess the backlog is too much. Lobok posted:It just comes from a weird place, like we need to make May his biologocial mother because adoptive parents aren't realllll parents, amirite? Hadn't considered that. Being adopted myself that provokes genuine anger at the comic now.
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Sep 18, 2021 02:59
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Invisible Woman's new outfit in the 90s definitely belongs in the worst new outfit discussion, jesus.
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Sep 18, 2021 12:16
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Invisible Woman's new outfit in the 90s definitely belongs in the worst new outfit discussion, jesus. Is that the swimsuit with the "4" boob window cutout?
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MH Knights posted:Is that the swimsuit with the "4" boob window cutout? I always remember the boob window, I forget how even without that it's still a loving terrible costume 
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Skwirl posted:I always remember the boob window, I forget how even without that it's still a loving terrible costume Like those blue arm/thigh bands...how do they attach??? Isn't her belly button too high up? Is that another Sue in the background?
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Sep 18, 2021 17:32
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MH Knights posted:Is that another Sue in the background? That's a friend wearing Sue's hand-me-downs.
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Sep 18, 2021 17:36
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MH Knights posted:Like those blue arm/thigh bands...how do they attach??? I don't think the belly button is too high? I mean, mine's above the waistline of my pants.
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I feel sort of uncomfortable looking at her in that I mean she's the Marvel Universe's mom basically
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Happy Hippo posted:I feel sort of uncomfortable looking at her in that I mean she's the Marvel Universe's mom basically
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It's a good thing that was back when Franklin was a kid or he might unmake the world out of sheer embarrassment.
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TwoPair posted:It's a good thing that was back when Franklin was a kid or he might unmake the world out of sheer embarrassment. "Oh god mom, really" Everything turns black.
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MH Knights posted:Like those blue arm/thigh bands...how do they attach??? It's a full body suit, she just makes parts of it invisible. Which makes more sense than any other explanation for that horrible design.
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Happy Hippo posted:I feel sort of uncomfortable looking at her in that I mean she's the Marvel Universe's mom basically
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Sep 19, 2021 00:21
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That era was so dumb. Having Wolverine show up and cause long-term consequences for a Fantastic Four storyline is such a silly way to try to ride popular trends. Arguably, the comic had already made fun of that kind of trend-chasing when they had Wolverine on theArt Adams “new” Fantastic Four years earlier and talk about how stupid that is.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:That era was so dumb. Having Wolverine show up and cause long-term consequences for a Fantastic Four storyline is such a silly way to try to ride popular trends. Arguably, the comic had already made fun of that kind of trend-chasing when they had Wolverine on theArt Adams “new” Fantastic Four years earlier and talk about how stupid that is. That was the Wolverine, Spider-Man, Ghost-rider and Hulk team?
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Skwirl posted:That was the Wolverine, Spider-Man, Ghost-rider and Hulk team? Yeah. I think Punisher and Nick Fury were involved as well, or showed up at the end.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Yeah. I think Punisher and Nick Fury were involved as well, or showed up at the end. The Punisher showed up for a two panel cameo. Of course, the whole storyline was a joke rather than an attempt to chase sales.
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Happy Hippo posted:I feel sort of uncomfortable looking at her in that I mean she's the Marvel Universe's mom basically It was sort of weird when it comes up in the comics, too. Sue decides somewhat randomly Reed doesn't pay attention to her anymore so she tarts up her costume and Reed is all "you've changed what you wear!" and then goes back to whatever he was doing so she basically should have skipped out with Namor.
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Dawgstar posted:It was sort of weird when it comes up in the comics, too. Sue decides somewhat randomly Reed doesn't pay attention to her anymore so she tarts up her costume and Reed is all "you've changed what you wear!" and then goes back to whatever he was doing so she basically should have skipped out with Namor. If Illuminati is to be believed she definitely cheated on Reed with Namor. Just don't know when.
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MH Knights posted:Like those blue arm/thigh bands...how do they attach??? its a terrible costume but like do you know what a garter is
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Skwirl posted:If Illuminati is to be believed she definitely cheated on Reed with Namor. Just don't know when. I don't care for that idea. Was it Bendis who wrote it?
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Dawgstar posted:I don't care for that idea. Was it Bendis who wrote it? If Skwirl's thinking of the scene I think they're thinking of, yes Bendis wrote it, but he explicitly wrote that Sue hasn't cheated despite Namor trying over and over edit: the scene in question  
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