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mom and dad fight a lot posted:Hey D&D how're we doin this afternoon It is made weirder as I think they all agree with one another, but are so mad about it they cannot tell.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 21:42 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:27 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 I mean, he’s being completely truthful here. He’s gonna remain open to it. He’s just never going to *do* it. He just likes the idea.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 21:51 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 This feels like a Lucy and the football metaphor mixed with something else but I'm not sure what.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 21:56 |
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If you read the article it's clear it's only if they get ranked choice instead of PR. So basically reform only if it benefits the Liberals.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 22:08 |
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MatchaZed posted:If you read the article it's clear it's only if they get ranked choice instead of PR. Coincidentally, exactly the same thing they insisted on the last time they were "open to electoral reform".
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 22:14 |
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I'm not convinced ranked choice would benefit the Liberals the most. The NDP is the #1 second choice for almost all other parties' supporters.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 22:21 |
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Normy posted:I'm not convinced ranked choice would benefit the Liberals the most. The NDP is the #1 second choice for almost all other parties' supporters. It's also not true in the long term. The political landscape already changes over time, and would definitely shift drastically in reaction to going ranked choice.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 22:29 |
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At least in Australia it seems to have completely entrenched the two party system
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 22:33 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 Top reply is Wilson-Raybould just tweeting a facepalm emoji, gently caress we didn't deserve her
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:07 |
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Also if you haven't read it, Indian in the Cabinet is very good and has only increased my respect for her. Paul Martin tricked her into being a Liberal and she bailed the second her ethics were truly compromized. I'll give her a pass for a momentary flirtation with evil
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:11 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 Not that they ever did or ever will get my vote but if there was ever a chance those loving rats lost it when they pulled that "a committee of Liberals said the system is fine now that we're in power" bullshit. gently caress the grits and gently caress strategic* voting. *Liberal
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:26 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 They got tired of promising and not giving us pharmacare.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:36 |
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Trudeau must think Canadians are really stupid. He's gonna get a majority.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:54 |
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Jesus Christ at the PPC polling 7.5%. This whole anti-vax/anti-mask campaign by far right agitators really has been effective sadly.
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# ? Sep 18, 2021 23:58 |
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Cocaine Bear posted:Not that they ever did or ever will get my vote but if there was ever a chance those loving rats lost it when they pulled that "a committee of Liberals said the system is fine now that we're in power" bullshit. gently caress the grits and gently caress strategic* voting. I love the actual quote Under Stephen Harper, there were so many people unhappy with the government and their approach that people were saying, ‘It will take electoral reform to no longer have a government we don’t like’. But under the current system, they now have a government they’re more satisfied with and the motivation to change the electoral system is less compelling
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 00:04 |
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Crow Buddy posted:It is made weirder as I think they all agree with one another, but are so mad about it they cannot tell. I'm not sure what that guy's position was, which is why I asked! egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 lmao
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 00:17 |
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Kale posted:Jesus Christ at the PPC polling 7.5%. This whole anti-vax/anti-mask campaign by far right agitators really has been effective sadly. It's kind off why standing up to their supporters is so important. That Reddit AMA was a perfect example of what happens when they step out of their internet echo chambers and get called out for things like xenophobia.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 00:39 |
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:It's kind off why standing up to their supporters is so important. That Reddit AMA was a perfect example of what happens when they step out of their internet echo chambers and get called out for things like xenophobia. You have to be really poo poo when REDDIT is calling you out on your bigotry.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 00:41 |
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Kale posted:Jesus Christ at the PPC polling 7.5%. This whole anti-vax/anti-mask campaign by far right agitators really has been effective sadly. A guy I worked with voted for the PPC because while he justifiably hates the libs/cons he's had so much smoke blown up his rear end about communism, socialists and anything left that choosing the NDP was never an option. He also had no idea they were the loving white supremacist party and when pressed about that just said "they're not gonna win anyway so don't worry about it!" We're hosed. Too many people have been mislead and under-educated for too long to do anything but arrive at the worst choices. There's not going to be a way out without incomprehensible amounts of blood.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 00:44 |
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https://twitter.com/MiNopinions/status/1439315068362141699
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 01:02 |
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ToxicAcne posted:At least in Australia it seems to have completely entrenched the two party system Lurking Aussie here keeping tabs on your upcoming election.. True we have a two-party duopoly but ranked choice voting tends to keep them both more or less aligned with the centre or at least pretending to be centrist. Seems like your two parties are trending that way already (sort of.. legal weed what?) but ranked choice would probably boost NDP’s seats in parliament.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:08 |
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Alberta's healthcare worker unions got together to ask Kenney to request federal and military help today which means he's never going to do it out of spite and a whole bunch of innocent people are going to die.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:10 |
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Kale posted:Jesus Christ at the PPC polling 7.5%. This whole anti-vax/anti-mask campaign by far right agitators really has been effective sadly. On the plus side, many of them will die. Sadly, other people will suffer and die as well, but I'm a glass half full kind of motherfucker. Powershift posted:Alberta's healthcare worker unions got together to ask Kenney to request federal and military help today which means he's never going to do it out of spite and a whole bunch of innocent people are going to die. Dude's gonna do something on Tuesday, I predict. It will probably be witheringly stupid all the same, but he'll do it.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:15 |
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Normy posted:I'm not convinced ranked choice would benefit the Liberals the most. The NDP is the #1 second choice for almost all other parties' supporters. Talking about which party benefits most from electoral reform misses the point. The parties would evolve out of necessity and Canadians would benefit.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:23 |
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PT6A posted:Dude's gonna do something on Tuesday, I predict. It will probably be witheringly stupid all the same, but he'll do it. probably a $100m no-bid contract to Shandro owned Vital Health Services for the vaccine passport app. Won't matter because Nathan Cooper is probably going to try to overthrown him on monday
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:24 |
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adeadcrab posted:Lurking Aussie here keeping tabs on your upcoming election.. This is what I think as well, you'll have less seats that went CON because of vote splitting and a greater willingness to take a risk; in Canada since the NDP is a fairly large party with mainstream support as third parties go it could benefit a lot from ranked choice/alternative vote. I'd still prefer STV but any system is better than FPTP.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:26 |
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lol what a weird thing to make up
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:36 |
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:lol what a weird thing to make up Seems pretty believable to me, tbh.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:46 |
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:lol what a weird thing to make up Could only have been one cop
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 02:53 |
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Lol if the PPC win the election Donald trump style because everyone protest voted for them without knowing what they actually stand for.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 03:03 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Lol if the PPC win the election Donald trump style because everyone protest voted for them without knowing what they actually stand for. That would actually be impossible though.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 03:04 |
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https://twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1439334413179949068 (Nothing will happen)
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 03:16 |
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^^^ Edit: Holy poo poo, nevermind, clearly I was wrong mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Sep 19, 2021 |
# ? Sep 19, 2021 04:54 |
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The Sun seems to be giving a wink to conspiracy fans and the PPC crowd with the article title today "If Trudeau pulls off a win, expect a bigger push to 'reset' Canada". It's referencing "The Great Reset" conspiracy but there's nothing in the article about that. It's just a few paragraphs saying that Trudeau has a huge ego and wants to remake Canada in his image. The last few lines say that if Trudeau has some sort of centrally planning in mind and will implement it if he wins.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 07:08 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:The Sun seems to be giving a wink to conspiracy fans and the PPC crowd with the article title today "If Trudeau pulls off a win, expect a bigger push to 'reset' Canada". Man these people are gonna be so disappointed to find out Trudeau’s just an incompetent rudderless narcissist who just happens to be good at public speaking and looking photogenic. I doubt the man knows how to reset his iPhone, much less all of loving Canada.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 07:53 |
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I have to think that the thing that's really driving the PPC vote is the anti-vax / anti lockdowns crowd. The CPC is kind of in the same tough position as the Republican party down in the states. They have to outwardly support having people vaccinated and show that they will be taking responsible steps to curtail the spread of COVID, but 5-10% of their base thinks the needle is going to kill or sterilize them, or that the lockdowns are a plot to have everyone lose their jobs so they all become debt slaves to the banks.. The PPC kind of got handed a golden goose this election and they've been making some hay out of the situation.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 08:33 |
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Starsfan posted:I have to think that the thing that's really driving the PPC vote is the anti-vax / anti lockdowns crowd. Also just like the Republicans, the Conservatives are also slowly alienating rational voters with their weird resistance to saying wether or not all their candidates and MPs have been vaccinated or not like the Liberals and NDP have announced. Like how the Republican recall effort in California blew up when people started to learn exactly who Larry Elder was and it horrified them.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 09:12 |
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With parents scrambling to find COVID-19 testing appointments for their children in the capital this weekend, Ottawa's COVID-19 Testing Taskforce says more appointments for children will open up at the Brewer Arena as staffing levels increase. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-parents-scramble-for-covid-19-testing-appointments-1.5590957 Testing rates slowed to a crawl over the summer, testing sites shut down due to lower rates, now parents complain that they can't get test fast enough for their kids with school going on. Something about this seems like it could have been avoidable I dunno.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 14:49 |
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egg tats posted:https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1439247782485938176 A masterclass in framing "equal weight to smaller parties" as "unfair weight to smaller parties". It's not fair if the representation is equally weighted! Raenir Salazar posted:This is what I think as well, you'll have less seats that went CON because of vote splitting and a greater willingness to take a risk; in Canada since the NDP is a fairly large party with mainstream support as third parties go it could benefit a lot from ranked choice/alternative vote. Just want to clear up that this is conflating different things. Ranked choice is just a type of voting, it is not a system in itself. I believe what Trudeau wants is IRV, which is technically a form of STV. I'm pretty sure when you say STV you're referring to the one where it's multi-member ridings right? I'd be good with that system also as it's decently proportional. I dunno, voting system naming is a mess.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 15:09 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 08:27 |
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I dunno, sexually transmitted votes sound bad.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 15:14 |