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Ah, yes. The Kerbal Space Program approach of "leave them there, we'll work out a rescue mission later." The main issue I have is that I can't think of a good way to get revival fluid to them if they're in spacesuits. I guess you can move the petrified statues to a safer place, cut the suits open (since you don't need to keep those intact), and then revive the astronauts. The comedy option, of course, is that the astronauts are hit by a meteor before they're rescued.
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Cannot wait to sob at how beautiful this manga's Gunbuster ending will be.
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Sep 7, 2021 20:51
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I wonder how difficult it would be to split the atom at their current level of technology. Nuke the moon!
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Vengarr posted:I wonder how difficult it would be to split the atom at their current level of technology. Nuke the moon! Can't be that hard. Einstein managed it in a shed in Tasmania with a knife.
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Yeah, considering fission has been a natural geological process at points, and they're building machines with the precision of jet turbine engines, splitting the atom is more about the amount of risk you want to introduce in a society that went from the stone age to the jet age in less than a human lifetime than anything else. Finding fissile material would be the hard part except that you have a super geologist, a super cartographer and two super scientists who know that in fact, it is a place of honor, and what is buried there is useful if dangerous.
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Sep 8, 2021 05:01
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Making a nuclear bomb wouldn't be impossible given the nature of this manga, but it would be super dirty and inefficient per gram of uranium. Enriching uranium I feel is a process that even if you know the theory behind it you need modern precise tech to pull it off, but hey we're building space rockets now so
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NowonSA posted:I mean, there's your setup for the final few chapters right? Senku and a few others go to the moon, fix the Whyman issue, radio back that they've saved the day, and petrify themselves. Then instead of it taking heaps of time for them to get rescued, it takes like 40 years because the people on earth busted their asses to revive science. Then we get Senku meeting the older versions of all the characters, maybe with a mix of "oh we figured out how to live forever and not age that much with the Medusa tech." Toss a quick Senku explanation of how we fix the wild overpopulation/food issues that would arise from immortal humans (give me that sick rear end roadmap to terraforming Mars into a lush green planet full of agriculture please) and then that's a wrap on this fun manga. With medusa and petrification/depetrification, we could simply slowboat across the universe and colonize anything for billions of years until the conditions of the universe become too hostile in general.
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Sep 8, 2021 13:00
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AtomikKrab posted:With medusa and petrification/depetrification, we could simply slowboat across the universe and colonize anything for billions of years until the conditions of the universe become too hostile in general. Turns out it's not a villain on the moon, it's just someone who really wants to have humanity practice doing interstellar voyages
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Sep 8, 2021 15:31
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Chapter 210 https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dr-stone-chapter-210/chapter/23203?action=read Haha Chrome & Suika be like "We'll simply build a return craft!"
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Sep 12, 2021 19:43
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rannum posted:Chapter 210 "Endearing" is a word that comes to mind a lot reading this manga.
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Sep 12, 2021 19:47
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It's just so unabashedly hopeful that it can't help but be endearing.
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Sep 12, 2021 21:58
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What sort of corners could you cut on a return craft if the astronauts could be petrified during re-entry?
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ZiegeDame posted:What sort of corners could you cut on a return craft if the astronauts could be petrified during re-entry?
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If they can make a working lander, they can make a return craft. The real problem here is the fuel/weight and the tyranny of the rocket equation, and I don't see how Chrome and Suika designing a return craft gets around this.
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ZiegeDame posted:What sort of corners could you cut on a return craft if the astronauts could be petrified during re-entry? I think this’ll be the difference in thinking that allows Chrome and Suika to pull off something Senku didn’t think of. To Senku and Xeno of the old world the Medusa is brand new and they haven’t thought too much of integrating it into their science, but Chrome and Suika have learned science while already knowing about the Medusa.
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Chrome and Suika, with their naïve minds unbiased by modern education, are really taking well to their lessons on math and physics. However they notice through experimental verification that the laws of physics they are taught don't match up with reality and they eventually discover they like be in an ancestor simulation
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Tamba posted:If they can make a working lander, they can make a return craft. The real problem here is the fuel/weight and the tyranny of the rocket equation, and I don't see how Chrome and Suika designing a return craft gets around this. Remember: magic space robot on the ISS.
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Sep 13, 2021 02:35
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Vengarr posted:Remember: magic space robot on the ISS. I try not to
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Sep 13, 2021 02:45
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Tiddy-bot 2000cc will be the savior the series needs.
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I didnt read the side thing with the magic space robot and i dont want to need to
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mabels big day posted:I didnt read the side thing with the magic space robot and i dont want to need to Its almost guaranteed to become a huge factor in the story imo. Might as well bite the bullet so you aren’t spitting fire when she shows up.
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Sep 14, 2021 19:26
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Vengarr posted:Its almost guaranteed to become a huge factor in the story imo. Might as well bite the bullet so you aren’t spitting fire when she shows up. I very much doubt this, the magic space robot is so completely out of line with everything in the main series that I can't imagine it being brought in.
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Vizuyos posted:I very much doubt this, the magic space robot is so completely out of line with everything in the main series that I can't imagine it being brought in. a deus ex machina to save senku when its clear that chromes plan fails?
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Vizuyos posted:I very much doubt this, the magic space robot is so completely out of line with everything in the main series that I can't imagine it being brought in. It felt like the only reason for the spin-off was to justify the existence of the ISS 2,000 years in the future…and then the main crew discovered they had to go to space.
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Early release this week. Z=211. World Tour for Resources. https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1009825 https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/dr-stone-chapter-211/chapter/23229?action=read
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Sep 17, 2021 21:37
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 I never understand the poo poo the "Bud-tender" yammers on about.
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Sep 17, 2021 21:37
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So, i was looking into the side manga again and uh...chrome noticed the light rei shined from space back in the day. He even managed to chart it out, but uh...he didnt know japanese...yet. Didnt he learn it during this trip?
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Sep 17, 2021 23:09
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This arc has thrown off my sense of the passage of time for this manga. They say it's been "ten long years", but does that include the seven years of stone time after the battle with Stanley? If that's the case, how long have they been going around the world founding cities? Did they just spend a year in Indonesia doing nothing but growing rice?
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Sep 18, 2021 09:07
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the manga skips past most of it but founding each of these cities and developing production takes a lot of time.
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Travel time on a turbine powered boat is still quite a bit when you're boating around from India to the US the long way around (I think?) and then back to Japan.
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Sep 18, 2021 09:59
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I assume they’re including the 7 years petrified. Otherwise Suika would be a grown-rear end woman.
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Like, the original trip form japan to america took like 2-3 months alone i think, and obviously the time it takes to set up each city would be skipped cuz that's kinda boring, so i can see founding the cities, and travel time would take a bit considering they wanted to get each city set up to properly produce each material, not just..."okay lets revive some folks and leave them with basic blueprints"
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I think this manga lost the script somewhere along the way.
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Pewdiepie posted:I think this manga lost the script somewhere along the way. It seems like Inagaki is trying to hurry through the "boring" parts to get to rocketry, which will probably take up about a year or so of chapters as they deal with failed flights, spacesuits, life support systems, etc. If it was simply "Reactivate civilization" then I think it could've just continued along the arc we were on with magnetized iron, sulfa drug, glass, cell phone, power stations, etc. But the manga has to juggle "Rediscover technology" with "Solve the mystery of the worldwide petrification event".
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I can also see maybe not wanting to go through the song & dance of "new country, revive people, oh no MASSIVE PROBLEMS" every single time. We know the gist, so we're skipping along stuff that'd probably have been full arcs to just have a much wider arc dedicated to the rocket. Or maybe it's just the author not wanting the manga to run forever, so let's just speed through these breadcrumbs. Or the editors were like "speed it up"
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Sep 19, 2021 05:10
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Revived Americans and our guns took up enough time. Also did we mention how violent Americans are? That part isn't made up.
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M_Gargantua posted:Revived Americans and our guns took up enough time. Also did we mention how violent Americans are? That part isn't made up. Highly believable part of the story to be honest.
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Sep 19, 2021 06:56
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It also gave us alligator burgers, so it's fine. It does feel like the current storyline is being rushed, but I'm fine with it. Better than drawing it out with forced conflict.
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Tamba posted:If they can make a working lander, they can make a return craft. The real problem here is the fuel/weight and the tyranny of the rocket equation, and I don't see how Chrome and Suika designing a return craft gets around this. At most it forces the hand of the actual rocket designers. "Well, we have a return vehicle, we may as well include it in the mission plan." I also agree that things have sped up massively in terms of getting things done, and I also find it frustrating. Its to the point where I don't actually know where everybody is and what they are doing in detail anymore. The main cast is literally zooming around the world in a rocket powered vehicle and I can't keep track of them.
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I think the thing that is getting me is that reviving people used to be a massive, centrally important part of everything. The science stuff is cool and rad, but the people dynamics were equally important. That aspect of things has basically fallen entirely out of the story - they're founding cities and presumably reviving tons of people offscreen that we never meet or interact with or see how the crew befriended them and convinced them to agree to supply labor/materials for a stone age rocket building project centered in Japan despite everyone now living in caveman world.
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