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Starsfan posted:The PPC kind of got handed a golden goose this election and they've been making some hay out of the situation. You can make hay with geese?
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Sep 19, 2021 15:18
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Fidelitious posted:A masterclass in framing "equal weight to smaller parties" as "unfair weight to smaller parties". It's not fair if the representation is equally weighted! Yeah multimember ridings where excess votes goes to elect additional representatives. If you had a riding that was 80% liberal instead of only getting 1 seat they would get 2 out of 3 and the third goes to who gets second place after all non viable candidates are eliminated. As systems go I like it because it feels like it incentivizes turnout and for parties to go for more than 50%+1 of votes in a given riding.
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Sep 19, 2021 15:41
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Does Trudeau stay on if he doesn't get a majority?
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Sep 19, 2021 16:06
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I think everyone is expecting Freedland to take the reins if that happens
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Sep 19, 2021 16:07
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Arc Hammer posted:With parents scrambling to find COVID-19 testing appointments for their children in the capital this weekend, Ottawa's COVID-19 Testing Taskforce says more appointments for children will open up at the Brewer Arena as staffing levels increase. Oh but they could just go to Shoppers Drug Mart and pay $40 for the No Name Brand test.
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Sep 19, 2021 16:09
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infernal machines posted:I think everyone is expecting Freedland to take the reins if that happens I could see it being a slow transition if he gets a minority though. If it's a Tory government he'll be out immediately.
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Sep 19, 2021 16:15
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Elections Canada should just just decide a new voting system for every election at random so parties can't plan around it.
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Sep 19, 2021 16:23
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Rockstar Massacre posted:Elections Canada should just just decide a new voting system for every election at random so parties can't plan around it. I can't commit to endorsing this plan until I know whether "Kumite" is one of the possible random selections.
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Sep 19, 2021 16:33
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So Ontario's vaccine passport comes into effect on Tuesday. My Goodlife gym has come up with a way to fast track checking if someone is double vaxxed without holding onto people's medical records. I went in today, showed them my proof of vaccination, photo ID and my membership and then signed an E document confirming my double Vax status. That way they don't have medical records on file but they do have signed proof every time I scan my barcode at the door. It's gonna be super annoying flashing my drivers license and PDF proof everywhere until Ford figures out how a QR code works.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:04
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Rockstar Massacre posted:Elections Canada should just just decide a new voting system for every election at random so parties can't plan around it.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:07
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Arc Hammer posted:So Ontario's vaccine passport comes into effect on Tuesday. My Goodlife gym has come up with a way to fast track checking if someone is double vaxxed without holding onto people's medical records. I went in today, showed them my proof of vaccination, photo ID and my membership and then signed an E document confirming my double Vax status. That way they don't have medical records on file but they do have signed proof every time I scan my barcode at the door. I'll be shocked if they're actually able to produce the apps on the timeline they laid out, and frankly I wouldn't think it's the government's fault for going slow - 6 weeks is INSANE to get a government specced tech project done that's any more complicated than a single web page. In any case, apparently the PDFs are still valid after the QR code launches, so it's all pointless anyway, anyone can trivially forge what they need for a vaccine passport.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:09
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Even better, don't announce it until after people have voted. One weird trick to eliminate strategic voting. At this point of absurdity just do sortition
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Sep 19, 2021 17:12
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Oh I get it now, the Conservative premieres are just acolytes to Nurgle. All makes sense now.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:28
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ARACHTION posted:Oh I get it now, the Conservative premieres are just acolytes to Nurgle. All makes sense now. Nurgle is about spreading love. That's beyond Conservative comprehension.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:35
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Wonder how many potential PPC voters will be turned away for not wearing a mask
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Sep 19, 2021 17:44
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Given the attitudes toward masking I've seen in BC? Very few.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:45
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ARACHTION posted:Oh I get it now, the Conservative premieres are just acolytes to Nurgle. All makes sense now. Hey. Hey. Hey. No. They're the crusty remnant leftovers of whatever vile poxes Grandfather Nurgle brew up in his vat in his garden of rot. The poo poo that got burnt onto the bottom and sides of the vat that not even Nurgle loves.
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Sep 19, 2021 17:45
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Arc Hammer posted:Nurgle is about spreading love. That's beyond Conservative comprehension. Nurgle radlib spotted
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Sep 19, 2021 18:02
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Randalor posted:Hey. Hey. Hey. No. They're the crusty remnant leftovers of whatever vile poxes Grandfather Nurgle brew up in his vat in his garden of rot. The poo poo that got burnt onto the bottom and sides of the vat that not even Nurgle loves. Honestly never got too into Nurgle lore it was too gross
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Sep 19, 2021 18:03
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"Retailers cut out of Alberta's vaccine program just days before changes take hold posted:CALGARY - Make up your mind UCP. Not sure if this will be better or worse for "small businesses" if they're capped at lower capacity in order to avoid a passport system.
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Sep 19, 2021 18:08
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infernal machines posted:I think everyone is expecting Freedland to take the reins if that happens Judging by all the survey calls I got in the months leading up to the election, the executive knew what the electorate thought of Trudeau. If he loses, Freedland is put in charge right away. If it’s a minority, he’ll step down shortly afterwards saying something about how the party should have a new leader. If it’s a majority, he’ll step down after about 2 years so there can be a convention and Freedland can be party leader for at least a year before the next election.
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Sep 19, 2021 18:32
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Mr. Apollo posted:I assumed the Liberal executive had him call this election as an excuse to put Freedland in charge. I think pretty much every liberal leader will be thought of similarly to Trudeau going forward. The right wing media machine has become too good at demonizing their opponents.
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Sep 19, 2021 18:35
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Mr. Apollo posted:I assumed the Liberal executive had him call this election as an excuse to put Freedland in charge. I don't think Freeland would be put in charge right away. I know for many parties, interim leaders can't be leadership candidates. I assume this is also true for the Liberals?
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Sep 19, 2021 18:38
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If we do end up with a Conservative minority I'd be curious to see how long it would last before facing a confidence vote from vengeful Liberals.
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Sep 19, 2021 18:48
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Calumanjaro posted:I think pretty much every liberal leader will be thought of similarly to Trudeau going forward. The right wing media machine has become too good at demonizing their opponents. They’ve already done it with Freeland via her Nazi collaborating grandfather.
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Sep 19, 2021 19:08
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Arc Hammer posted:So Ontario's vaccine passport comes into effect on Tuesday. Manitoba has had the passport with a QR code for a while now and while the vaccination record checker is a free and fast app to download, in my experience most restaurants just ask to see your card with a piece of ID and don't even bother verifying your card. As usual, all of the security and tech in the world can't stop people from being stupid and not actually using the verifier, which means that as many anti-vaxxers have argued, faking a card is easy, which it is when nobody uses the QR. Most comical thing that has happened: had one person ask if she could see the QR code on the back of my passport. She didn't scan it, she just wanted to look at it, as if she can eyeball it for authenticity.
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Sep 19, 2021 19:15
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InfiniteZero posted:Manitoba has had the passport with a QR code for a while now and while the vaccination record checker is a free and fast app to download, in my experience most restaurants just ask to see your card with a piece of ID and don't even bother verifying your card. As usual, all of the security and tech in the world can't stop people from being stupid and not actually using the verifier, which means that as many anti-vaxxers have argued, faking a card is easy, which it is when nobody uses the QR. T-800s had to get normal jobs now that humanity isn't worth saving.
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Sep 19, 2021 19:18
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 If you do the math, the majority of the PPC gains in this election are from 2019 non-voters and a tiny fraction of Green party voters rather than defections from the tories. This suggests very strongly to me the PPC gains are from single issue anti-vaxxer voters, rather than affinity for more general right-wing ideology
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Sep 19, 2021 19:30
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Evis posted:They’ve already done it with Freeland via her Nazi collaborating grandfather. It's not really "demonizing" if it's just plainly true
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Sep 19, 2021 19:38
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LMAO.. The alberta immunization record is an editable PDF. https://twitter.com/WaterSHEDLab/status/1439602794042773509?s=20 Jesus loving christ this loving stupid loving government needs to all choke on a tube and die.
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Sep 19, 2021 19:38
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Typo posted:
Unless I'm misreading the graph, 3% of conservatives would be larger than 4% of greens. I'm also sceptical al any of those nonvoters will vote this time.
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Sep 19, 2021 19:39
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Calumanjaro posted:Unless I'm misreading the graph, 3% of conservatives would be larger than 4% of greens. I'm also sceptical al any of those nonvoters will vote this time. if you think the 2019 non-voters aren't gonna vote this time either sure, but we'll see My personal observation (admitly limited sample size cuz irl+fb) on the PPC support this time is a lot of people who didn't give a poo poo about politics before vaccines and now all of a sudden do is because of vaccines Typo fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Sep 19, 2021 |
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Sep 19, 2021 19:50
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Calumanjaro posted:Unless I'm misreading the graph, 3% of conservatives would be larger than 4% of greens. I'm also sceptical al any of those nonvoters will vote this time. As for non voters, that graph doesn't say how many there are. Some (many?) of them weren't eligible to vote last election. Unless you're specifically talking about PPC non-voters. Typo posted:yes, I said the 2019 non-voters+defection from greens. Not the green defections by themselves. I can't find the specific source for the graph you posted since it's not dated, but here's the latest: https://abacusdata.ca/daily-tracking-poll-election-44-sept-17/  Doing the math on this table says about one third of 2019 non voters are PPC voters and they account for about half of PPC voters. Assuming your graph is accurate and from a time before current PPC support rise then it would mean that PPC had a core support from cons and some greens and some new voters, but their current swelling is coming from non voters. Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Sep 19, 2021 |
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Sep 19, 2021 19:53
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Evis posted:They’ve already done it with Freeland via her Nazi collaborating grandfather. Trying to court the PPC vote while also making Nazi grandpa allegations against Freeland is a tricky needle to thread.
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Sep 19, 2021 20:32
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We condemn the horrific brutality of the German Nazi party; however, there is no evidence to suggest that the individual in question was ever a member of the party, not was he on the attendance sheet at their annual national meeting.
Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Sep 19, 2021 |
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Sep 19, 2021 21:02
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I think the LPC want to coronate Mark Carney, not Freeland, but otherwise I agree this smells like a soft coup.
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Sep 19, 2021 21:18
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Went to the Rideau Center today. Walked around the food court and there was a lady yelling at the staff of the KFC because the cook in the back wasn't wearing a mask while they were doing meal prep. The front end cashier kept trying to defend the person in the back not wearing a mask because she said they were double vaccinated so they don't have to wear them anymore. This went on for several minutes and I decided to keep moving. Stupid stupid people.
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Sep 19, 2021 21:43
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The person in the back isn't where customers are and wouldn't need to wear a mask anyway
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Sep 19, 2021 21:55
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flakeloaf posted:The person in the back isn't where customers are and wouldn't need to wear a mask anyway It was more the Karen at the front who was annoying. She held up the line so I said gently caress it and left. Working back end sucks because it's hot and sweaty enough without a mask.
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Sep 19, 2021 21:58
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That story is clearly made up, people eating KFC aren't concerned about their health.
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Sep 19, 2021 22:01
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