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mawarannahr posted:psychologists have bizarre ideas about what terrorism is. the former president of the American psychological society accused researchers who were reviewing papers and trying to replicate them of Methodological Terrorism psychology seems like economics, a quackery cudgel for the upper class to beat everyone with.
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psychology and therapy are a response to alienation and mental illness, capitalism can cause and exacerbates otherwise already occuring mental illnesses, the CIA and state control and have shaped psychology and therapy and even the concept of mental health and mental illness because they recognize this, but they need to control the response to it so that it doesn't address capitalism or the root causes of alienation and dysfunction, but also because it's beneficial to have another part of society in which they have outsized influence or in some cases control, this is the same reason they control/shape academic feminism and anti racism
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Sep 18, 2021 20:55
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Therapy truly helps me work through some traumatic poo poo but my therapists come from one of the oldest queer oriented groups in the country and i never had any therapist in 3 years that didn't get it on some level, and were oriented towards easing suffering rather than inposing normalcy and that difference of priority is a big deal
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Sep 18, 2021 22:00
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yeah, finding the right therapist with the right approach is like 80% of the battle lmao also once you find them they have to not be a flake because the best ones are flakey
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Sep 18, 2021 23:47
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oh yeah pardon if i gave the impression i was talking about therapists i meant the assholes that like study how to ruin people more effectively via phone gambling
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Sep 19, 2021 00:03
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Aside from all the nefarious and outright evil poo poo that contributes, it's really only been seriously addressed in recent years that an enormous amount of the body of literature and research comes from old white guys using affluent white kids as research subjects because colleges made that the most convenient way to do things. I started college in 2002 and intro to psych was a required gen ed class, and even if it was just filling out a few surveys, you had to participate in 3 research studies or experiments to pass the class.
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Sep 19, 2021 01:18
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I'm just about to write my lab report for intro to bio psychology and this entire field is error on error. The history of transpersonal psychology is interesting. Reading about the CIA's connections to Eselen, etc.
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Sep 19, 2021 02:00
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Lampsacus posted:I'm just about to write my lab report for intro to bio psychology and this entire field is error on error. The history of transpersonal psychology is interesting. Reading about the CIA's connections to Eselen, etc. please gimme what u got on esalen that’s a pet project I never get to indulge!
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Sep 19, 2021 02:11
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to divert from psych so directly, here's an amazing 2008 article in Nature I recently learned up penned by some of the psychos overseeing funding in the neurosciences. The whole thing is ghoulish, but I made a (not so) shortlist of favs. The mental wealth of nations (yup) Beddington et al. posted:Countries must learn how to capitalize on their citizens' cognitive resources if they are to prosper, both economically and socially. Early interventions will be key.
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Sep 19, 2021 02:45
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gee i wonder why all these debtors are so stressed
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what do folks think of lake city quiet pills? the basics are that a guy on Reddit claiming to be a WWII vet who was a prolific early Reddit poster and moderated the r/jailbait subreddit was connected to an image host for porn called lake city quiet pills. The image host apparently had a hidden message board that appeared to be advertising military contract work. I remember during the big push SA did to notify the public about all the pedo poo poo on Reddit that it was revealed a lot of the mods of those subreddits were in communication and friends with Reddit employees. also, I learned today about Larry Hillblom, the “H” founder of the DHL company, who was a notorious epstein-esque pedo who may have faked his own death. another one for folks to look up.
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Sep 19, 2021 02:59
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Excelzior posted:
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the economy has repressed urges to murder and/or gently caress its creators
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https://circleid.com/posts/20191002_unraveling_unsolved_mysteries_with_threat_intelligence link's to reporting on it. one feature by Anderson Cooper. haven't looked into it deeply yet
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lol I posted before reading the last couple pages and holy poo poo that apa article. I’ve posted before in here that I don’t think psychology as a field is totally awful, but I feel the strong need to change that to therapy as a field. it’s only effective on an individual level, but it can be helpful. that said, broader associations of psychologists tend to be at best agents of capital. something that will stick with me forever is a friend of mine (diagnosed with borderline personality disorder) telling me that the DSM (the america-only guide to diagnosing mental disorders) is just a guide to acceptable behavior in society at the time it is published. this is very true. not for 100% of cases; I work with folks with severe mental disorders and anyone who witnesses them can tell you that schizophrenia or a manic episode are not just someone disagreeing with societal norms. however, so many of these disorders are a result of prolonged trauma and a person trying to cope with it. and capitalism is traumatic. insurance companies could cure so many “mental illnesses” by just giving people direct payouts rather than pharmacies. instead it’s 1200 bucks for medicine. 1200 bucks extra a month in income is incredible. anyway yeah. the apa declaring being a socialist is mental illness is entirely in their purview. one of the major demographic Elizabeth Warren voters was psychologists. but it’s bull poo poo. individual therapy works and research into it is good. but so much of it is absolutely terrible.
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PMJ (or anyone else), just curious if anything about those two consulting firms I looked at is significant or meaningful. I could probably spend a month mapping out everything about the political connections, but I decided to leave it there because I was trying to keep it to what I found in 6 or so hours and all the political ties lead to pretty well known activist groups. All the liberal/extreme centrist stuff is honestly boring as poo poo and exactly what we can expect, but I enjoy doing this and if anyone wants to throw some less prominent right winger names at me and see what I can come up with, I'll see what I can do in my spare time. Yeah, they're all a bunch of loving Nazis, but maybe I can prove it.
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fr0id posted:what do folks think of lake city quiet pills? the basics are that a guy on Reddit claiming to be a WWII vet who was a prolific early Reddit poster and moderated the r/jailbait subreddit was connected to an image host for porn called lake city quiet pills. The image host apparently had a hidden message board that appeared to be advertising military contract work. I remember during the big push SA did to notify the public about all the pedo poo poo on Reddit that it was revealed a lot of the mods of those subreddits were in communication and friends with Reddit employees. lmao holy poo poo this is mental, i've just been reading this: https://unresolved.me/lake-city-quiet-pills
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Horizon Burning posted:lmao holy poo poo this is mental, i've just been reading this: https://unresolved.me/lake-city-quiet-pills drat that was a fun trip
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fr0id posted:also, I learned today about Larry Hillblom, the “H” founder of the DHL company, who was a notorious epstein-esque pedo who may have faked his own death. another one for folks to look up. well I found this guy michel akavi, head of dhl France and or MENA, in the Ashley Madison data dump…… maybe Ashley was cia???!
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nut posted:please gimme what u got on esalen that’s a pet project I never get to indulge! i havent read him in years because of his case of degenerative boomer brain but chris knowles did several great series on esalen
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Horizon Burning posted:lmao holy poo poo this is mental, i've just been reading this: https://unresolved.me/lake-city-quiet-pills
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GWBBQ posted:Didn't something come out in the past year or so that confirmed LCQP was a hoax? I followed it for a bit but ARGs and Internet Mysteries started to take up way too much time and I pretty much gave up on following them a while ago. no clue about validity but Twitter search came up with this youtuber tweet https://twitter.com/sociablebarely/status/1210109285885042688?s=21
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Now I'm thinking about how much of humanity's time was wasted on Second Life and being thankful that I never got into it.
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I'm curious, is there any place to exchange linden dollars directly for Bitcoin?
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Spergin Morlock posted:I'm curious, is there any place to exchange linden dollars directly for Bitcoin? yes, in the heyday of the dark web
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I loving love this title Nicholas Branch in his glove-leather armchair is a retired senior analyst of the Central Intelligence Agency, hired on contract to write the secret history of the assassination of President Kennedy. Six point nine seconds of heat and light. Let’s call a meeting to analyze the blur. Let’s devote our lives to understanding this moment, separating the elements of each crowded second. We will build theories that gleam like jade idols, intriguing systems of assumption, four-faced, graceful. We will follow the bullet trajectories backwards to the lives that occupy the shadows, actual men who moan in their dreams. Elm Street. A woman wonders why she is sitting on the grass, bloodspray all around. Tenth Street. A witness leaves her shoes on the hood of a bleeding policeman’s car. A strangeness, Branch feels, that is almost holy. There is much here that is holy, an aberration in the heartland of the real. Let’s regain our grip on things.
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mawarannahr posted:psychologists have bizarre ideas about what terrorism is. the former president of the American psychological society accused researchers who were reviewing papers and trying to replicate them of Methodological Terrorism Psychiatry, on the other hand, has immense legal power for what's mostly still a subjective analysis. I think in the mental health thread I talked briefly about the satanic cult stuff that was mainstream in the psychiatric community in the 90s and the obsession over repressed memories and MPD. People had their lives ruined because courts grant psychiatrists almost unlimited power in the control of patients due to the assumed credibility of their opinions.
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nut posted:sorry psychologists (i know some of u do good), ur getting it all from the thread 2day those are the people who are hired by corporations to deaden their executives’ empathy yeah?just some nightmare bullshit of training a human to ignore compassion
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my wife is a geriatric dementia specialist psychiatrist and is pretty happy with her work cause the outcomes are mostly really positive unless some other doctor's problem gets her patients first but all her old colleagues from residency that specialize in addiction or personality disorder stuff that she stays in touch with are burned out as gently caress already cause outcomes are so murky and often tragic
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Excelzior posted:
Nick Land wrote so many blog posts about this
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fr0id posted:what do folks think of lake city quiet pills? the basics are that a guy on Reddit claiming to be a WWII vet who was a prolific early Reddit poster and moderated the r/jailbait subreddit was connected to an image host for porn called lake city quiet pills. The image host apparently had a hidden message board that appeared to be advertising military contract work. I remember during the big push SA did to notify the public about all the pedo poo poo on Reddit that it was revealed a lot of the mods of those subreddits were in communication and friends with Reddit employees. quiet pills you say https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_City_Army_Ammunition_Plant
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Chuka Umana posted:Psychiatry, on the other hand, has immense legal power for what's mostly still a subjective analysis. I think in the mental health thread I talked briefly about the satanic cult stuff that was mainstream in the psychiatric community in the 90s and the obsession over repressed memories and MPD. People had their lives ruined because courts grant psychiatrists almost unlimited power in the control of patients due to the assumed credibility of their opinions. I had a friend who got really into repressed memories in the 1990s and convinced himself that he had recovered memories during a Ketamine binge of being molested by his babysitter as a very young child. We lost touch but I always wondered if he was self-medicating trauma with drugs or he was just self-traumatized by the near daily psychedelics he was taking at the time. e: But yeah it was a big thing in the 1990s that has largely been disproven now. As I understand, the therapists were planting these suggestions in already vulnerable psyches.
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GWBBQ posted:PMJ (or anyone else), just curious if anything about those two consulting firms I looked at is significant or meaningful. I could probably spend a month mapping out everything about the political connections, but I decided to leave it there because I was trying to keep it to what I found in 6 or so hours and all the political ties lead to pretty well known activist groups. No names jump out at me. It's interesting though, some of the threads there. Here is the list, from your post, so it's easier to follow: GWBBQ posted:Bernal Alto LLC, 2016-2020 1. Obviously the persons we'd do best to follow up on are Jin Ding, Rebecca Bond, Zack Malitz since they are involved with two shells. 1a. None of these PACs or funds are mysterious except: CREDO SuperPAC and Green Advocacy Project 1b. CREDO SuperPac:  https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/credo-mobile-super-pac/C00507517/summary/2016 As you can see, no contributions to federal candidates. The image is from "2016" in the dropdown. Their last report was Dec 1 2015 and they disappear thereafter. Note that it says "Industry: Telecom/cell". CREDO Mobile is a Verizon arm that provides regional cheap cellphone plans (a la Boost Mobile, e.g.) so we can reasonably conclude this PAC's intent is to lobby on behalf of Verizon, yes? Well, probably. If you click through to opensecrets.org you'll see they never made any contributions to federal candidates but they are reporting expenditures - so it's one or both things: it's a passthrough PAC to get the right people (PAC employees) paid out or all their spending goes towards media propaganda. But there's a small snag: 1c. Green Advocacy Project.  So we can reasonably conclude that CREDO SuperPAC wanted to get operatives paid and ditto Green Advocacy Project, just with two different ostensible reasons for existing. It's also useful to know that Rebecca goes by Becky, should make further look-up a little simpler. Jin Ding and Elijah Zarlin didn't get the invite to jump from CREDO to Green Advocacy Project so we'd do well to follow up on them also to see where they did end up or else what reason exists for their exclusion. Michael Kieschnick was at Middle Seat as well as CREDO and Green Advocacy Project but has no apparent connection to Bernal Alto or Middle Seat, unlike the two other board members? Would be good to ask why that might be and why nobody else on that Middle Seat list there ended up at Green Advocacy Project. 2. Beto and Uyghur just got spookier. 3. Looks like this group/s were keen on anti-Brexit stuff. Not surprising. The only people who wanted to split the imperial bloc are commies and New Money conservatives.
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I managed to get though this thread over the weekend and I enjoyed reading it. I particularly enjoyed the coronavirus vaccine discussion.
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Demon crackers are literally a seperate species of primate from human https://twitter.com/rdevro/status/1439733206455050243
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staticman posted:Demon crackers are literally a seperate species of primate from human
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Real hurthling! posted:my wife is a geriatric dementia specialist psychiatrist and is pretty happy with her work cause the outcomes are mostly really positive unless some other doctor's problem gets her patients first but all her old colleagues from residency that specialize in addiction or personality disorder stuff that she stays in touch with are burned out as gently caress already cause outcomes are so murky and often tragic i have to admit this is the first time i've seen "geriatric dementia" used in context with "positive outcomes" but i suppose it makes sense given the (mostly) known trajectories involved and contrasted against the unpredictability of addiction & personality disorders (exacerbated by capitalism & material conditions)
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she says her patients see a lot of qol improvement under treatment and when they die its not because you misdiagnosed their mental decline
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Real hurthling! posted:she says her patients see a lot of qol improvement under treatment and when they die its not because you misdiagnosed their mental decline thanks! that makes a lot of sense.
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Quick someone write this down: Ghislaine Maxwell AMV with "How Does it Feel" by Bob Dylan
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