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Even the US would baulk at poo poo like this:NYT posted:Evergrande Gave Workers a Choice: Lend Us Cash or Lose Your Bonus EDIT: loving stupid sites trying to stop copy/paste. Megillah Gorilla has issued a correction as of 14:55 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Even the US would baulk at poo poo like this: Yeah, giving your employees bonuses in the first place is very un-american.
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Sep 21, 2021 14:54
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Shame Boy posted:Yeah, giving your employees bonuses in the first place is very un-american. Nah that isn't true. The American way is to offer bonus if a certain quota is met. Just make sure that quota is just out of reach. If the qouta is ever met then raise it some more. Also bitch super hard whenever it isn't met. Bonus points if you make it feels like a moral failure on your employees part.
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Sep 21, 2021 14:59
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Shwqa posted:Nah that isn't true. The American way is to offer bonus if a certain quota is met. Just make sure that quota is just out of reach. If the qouta is ever met then raise it some more. Also bitch super hard whenever it isn't met. Bonus points if you make it feels like a moral failure on your employees part. My job does this, and the bonus is less than 1% of yearly pay. I'm so motivated to try real hard
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Sep 21, 2021 15:03
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Shwqa posted:Nah that isn't true. The American way is to offer bonus if a certain quota is met. Just make sure that quota is just out of reach. If the qouta is ever met then raise it some more. Also bitch super hard whenever it isn't met. Bonus points if you make it feels like a moral failure on your employees part. In 2001 I worked for a company that decided it was going public and had gotten a well-known accounting firm, Coopers & Lybrand, to valuate our company for the IPO. We all were going to get some shares instead of our usual Christmas cash bonus. LOL Suffice it to say we didn't see either that year.
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Sep 21, 2021 15:09
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Shame Boy posted:My favorite weird evolutionary algorithm story was the one run on an FPGA (basically a reprogrammable circuit) that would try to optimize the internal logic to solve a very simple problem - I think it was output a 1 if given one tone, and a 0 if given another tone. After a while it was getting it done perfectly, so the researchers looked at what it made and... it made no sense. There were parts connected to nothing, other parts that were connected but didn't seem to do anything, and they couldn't figure out how it worked. They tried deleting the parts connected to nothing, and it stopped working. They then tried to copy it into a different FPGA, and it didn't work there at all. The algorithm made a design that worked perfectly only on that specific chip, due to the peculiarities of the chip itself. time works the same way that's really interesting though. do you remember where you read about it?
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Weatherman posted:This is a popular (vs academic) article about that circuit. nthing that it's a good read. 
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Sep 21, 2021 15:13
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BonHair posted:God drat America, always one step ahead while the sign spiners are sad in an exploiting labor kind of way, there's also these loving things that just fill me with rage  box trucks modified into rolling billboards that drive around busy areas simply to be seen driving around busy areas.
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Sep 21, 2021 17:30
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Shwqa posted:Nah that isn't true. The American way is to offer bonus if a certain quota is met. Just make sure that quota is just out of reach. If the qouta is ever met then raise it some more. Also bitch super hard whenever it isn't met. Bonus points if you make it feels like a moral failure on your employees part. The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:04
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Kreeblah posted:The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits. Lmao 100%
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Sep 21, 2021 18:24
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jetz0r posted:while the sign spiners are sad in an exploiting labor kind of way, there's also these loving things that just fill me with rage I'm with you. These started showing up in my smallish town and I haven't stopped loudly complaining about them since. It's advertising that contributes to traffic congestion and pollution. It's a stunning overlap of awful thing. I guess it would be a different story if they were actually hauling something from A to B in the back but most of them are converted in such a way that the cargo area is useless.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:25
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Kreeblah posted:The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits. Saving it for bonuses is a chump move, our CEO does this every quarter to extend the pay freeze that been going on since before my company was acquired. It's apparently been in place for like three or four years, but it's always phrased as "just for this coming quarter" to keep the rubes placated before immediately bragging about how the company has never been more successful and therefore we're expanding the C-suite with a new hire.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:26
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Kreeblah posted:The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits. This is literally what my company is doing right now. We sell vitamins which are in high demand during covid times. But man they make it feel like we are about to declare bankruptcy but we didn't sell 25% more than our best year ever, which was last year. We are only selling 12% more than our best year ever. Time to tighten that belt.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:35
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Kreeblah posted:The real pro move is to give a sob story when bonus time comes 'round about how times are tough and we all need to tighten our belts, so that's why there aren't going to be bonuses this year, and then immediately hop on the quarterly earnings report call and start bragging about the company's record profits. Canadian Tire did this - Instead of bonuses and raises they so graciously "let everyone keep their job" all while experiencing literal record profits the past 6 quarters.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:58
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Saving it for bonuses is a chump move, our CEO does this every quarter to extend the pay freeze that been going on since before my company was acquired. It's apparently been in place for like three or four years, but it's always phrased as "just for this coming quarter" to keep the rubes placated before immediately bragging about how the company has never been more successful and therefore we're expanding the C-suite with a new hire. Suite gig, if you can get it. petit choux posted:In 2001 I worked for a company that decided it was going public and had gotten a well-known accounting firm, Coopers & Lybrand, to valuate our company for the IPO. We all were going to get some shares instead of our usual Christmas cash bonus. LOL Suffice it to say we didn't see either that year. You don't understand. The country had just ENDURED a TRAGEDY. People weren't buying like they used to
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Sep 21, 2021 19:27
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When I started at my current job, the first year I got a $500 bonus with a letter saying that you get $500 plus an additional $250 for each year you work there. The second year, I got a $400 bonus with a letter saying you get $200 plus an additional $200 for each year you work there. The third year I got a $200 bonus with a letter saying they were very lucky we did well enough to allow giving this bonus but gosh we're not obligated to or anything. The fourth year I got one of the mugs we give out for free at trade shows, and a letter saying how great a year we had. The fifth year I got nothing.
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Sep 21, 2021 20:01
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Shame Boy posted:When I started at my current job, the first year I got a $500 bonus with a letter saying that you get $500 plus an additional $250 for each year you work there. The second year, I got a $400 bonus with a letter saying you get $200 plus an additional $200 for each year you work there. The third year I got a $200 bonus with a letter saying they were very lucky we did well enough to allow giving this bonus but gosh we're not obligated to or anything. Lol this has the exact rhythm of a Simpsons joke. Like, for the sixth year I expect you to get crushed into a cube
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Sep 21, 2021 20:17
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I’ve never gotten a bonus at any job I’ve had so cry more
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Sep 21, 2021 20:23
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indigi posted:I’ve never gotten a bonus at any job I’ve had so cry more It's obviously a first world problem, but a lot of people factor bonus expectations into their job decisions - even for fairly modestly-paying jobs - so it does kinda suck that they can be arbitrarily rescinded like that
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Sep 21, 2021 20:26
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's obviously a first world problem, but a lot of people factor bonus expectations into their job decisions - even for fairly modestly-paying jobs - so it does kinda suck that they can be arbitrarily rescinded like that That's why you always negotiate on base pay, not any "bonus" crap they try to throw at you to take a lower rate. They'll yank that poo poo away ASAP, whereas it's a lot more taboo (though certainly not unheard of) to cut somebody's pay.
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Sep 21, 2021 20:33
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Kreeblah posted:That's why you always negotiate on base pay, not any "bonus" crap they try to throw at you to take a lower rate. They'll yank that poo poo away ASAP, whereas it's a lot more taboo (though certainly not unheard of) to cut somebody's pay. 100%
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Sep 21, 2021 20:34
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Even the US would baulk at poo poo like this: I assume the implication is that they're fired if they don't. But if a company with a ludricrous valuation like that is suddenly demanding a bail-in and hitting up employees for cash, how do you not understand the jig is up and you're not getting a bonus no matter how much money you give them?
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Sep 21, 2021 21:32
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's obviously a first world problem, but a lot of people factor bonus expectations into their job decisions - even for fairly modestly-paying jobs - so it does kinda suck that they can be arbitrarily rescinded like that National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
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Sep 21, 2021 21:47
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Milo and POTUS posted:Suite gig, if you can get it. The added bonus LOL on this one is that this was the year that Coopers & Lybrand, probably the best known accounting firm in the US at the time, got busted for pumping up the value of companies they assessed so they could have huge IPOs. Which deeply poisoned our IPO and caused them to kind of go dark for a few months until they merged with Price Waterhouse. This was kind of a big deal back then, that a firm hired as everyone's accountant was auditing in the front and promoting client firms with false information out the back. .... something something Sarbanes-Oxley something ... petit choux has issued a correction as of 21:57 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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Sep 21, 2021 21:50
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i am harry posted:National Lampoons Christmas Vacation Haha "I gave him the wrong finger!"
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skooma512 posted:I assume the implication is that they're fired if they don't. But if a company with a ludricrous valuation like that is suddenly demanding a bail-in and hitting up employees for cash, how do you not understand the jig is up and you're not getting a bonus no matter how much money you give them? I assume that not participating in this scheme will have a negative impact on your ~Social Score~
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Sep 21, 2021 22:06
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indigi posted:I’ve never gotten a bonus at any job I’ve had so cry more I get a $50 Christmas bonus from one of my jobs. pretty sweet.
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Sep 21, 2021 22:10
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https://twitter.com/absquigglebot/status/1440339035810000901
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https://twitter.com/TheEbonyMaw/status/1439633004641636362
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Failed Imagineer posted:Haha "I gave him the wrong finger!" I don't remember this line from the movie. Is it when he's flipping off the rednecks?
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jetz0r posted:while the sign spiners are sad in an exploiting labor kind of way, there's also these loving things that just fill me with rage In some parts of the world those also have loudspeakers playing super annoying advertising jingles on loop.
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just wait until you see the boat ones
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or the airplanes
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Just wait till Elon puts it in space
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Sep 22, 2021 02:58
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if you ain't seein advertisements all day every day are you even alive?
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Milo and POTUS posted:I don't remember this line from the movie. Is it when he's flipping off the rednecks? ....in a stunning display of early senility , I managed to conflate Richard Pryor in Moving flipping off his boss with Chevy Chase flipping out about his boss in NLCV. I have no real explanation for this momentary lapse in reality...2 80s comedians having emotional meltdowns about their bosses but otherwise no connection. Good movie tho 
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Sep 22, 2021 03:14
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i was once given a "bonus" at my first job. my boss told me "don't spend it all at once" a week beforehand like it would be a decent amount and then i got a $10 amazon gift card
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I was with one job where we got a piddly cash bonus for Christmas, then the next year we got an even piddlier cash bonus, then the next year we got a Target gift card, then the next year we got nothing. And we were all grateful for even the tiniest crumbs from the table of our corporate masters.
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