[succ] Go directly to the solutions tent, do not collect 600 dollars

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lolling that the only thing the dems will get done is sending some people 600 dollar checks

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:30

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 02:52

papa horny michael: Aug 18, 2009; by Pragmatica

willa going to get a 30 day probe for questioning Havana syndrome

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:32

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

bedpan posted:

im wagering that at least 25% of the havana syndrome reports came directly after the sufferer drank a bottle of havana club and fell asleep on the beach

no no no, they traveled across the world jetlagged to a country with different food, allergens, and air pollutants than their used to so obviously the killer headache was caused by a RUSSIAN (or possibly chinese or iranian or cuban) MIND BEAM

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:32

docbeard: Jul 19, 2011

Pryor on Fire posted:

nice to see Havana Syndrome and Iron Dome are the priorities, why would anyone vote Democrat ever again

I have Iron Dome Syndrome plz a billion dollars

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:32

ram dass in hell: Dec 29, 2019

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/TonyRomm/status/1440355811662782470

Lol just asking questions are they

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:32

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Vote Trump.

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:33

Grey Fox: Jan 5, 2004

papa horny michael posted:

willa going to get a 30 day probe for questioning Havana syndrome

at least she'll be properly compensated

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:34

Fleetwood: Mar 26, 2010; biggest hochul head in china

maybe the government can pay elon to develop some special protective helmets for the havana syndrome afflicted

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:35

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

Phone posted:

also i still don�t buy that he isn�t mod related because the dude just skates nonstop. like the weaz, despite being d&d royalty, still gets slapped with a heavier hand than HAU ever has.

He skates because he posts (or at least posted, but presumably still does) in the same Discord as the mods. They're not willing to crack down on someone they chat with (plus they agree with the broad scope of what he says).

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:35

HashtagGirlboss: Jan 4, 2005

papa horny michael posted:

willa going to get a 30 day probe for questioning Havana syndrome

G-mancide denial is a ban plus 30

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:36

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1440459543943602176?s=20

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:36

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Havana syndrome will turn out to be real, but it is the USA once again experimenting on usa citizens with a gas or something

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:36

Srice: Sep 11, 2011

I get migraines on a fairly regular basis, maybe I should just say I was a victim of cuban headache rays and get some money out of it

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:37

Fleetwood: Mar 26, 2010; biggest hochul head in china

I don't even think it's a raygun that's producing these results, it's just the power of communist messaging conflicting with american brainworms. it's a persistent psychological crack-ping event, like the schizoid embolism quaid experiences in total recall

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:38

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1440459543943602176?s=20

honestly i think the incidental replied to tweet where steny hoyer says its a big priority for us to fully fund a foreign countrys weapon system is the bigger succ here

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:38

docbeard: Jul 19, 2011

I should probably actually read Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds if I'm gonna start citing it as the explanation for basically the whole 21st century.

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:39

Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

Srice posted:

I get migraines on a fairly regular basis, maybe I should just say I was a victim of cuban headache rays and get some money out of it

gonna call out sick at work tomorrow with just "out sick - havana syndrome" and see what happens

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:41

CongoJack: Nov 5, 2009; Ask Why, Asshole

Agents who get paid for having Havana syndrome are going to get a challenge coin like those NYPD guys with the three winking quarters on it.

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:43

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/jksmith91645/status/1440429377129312265?s=19

Is this satire

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:43

lobster shirt: Jun 14, 2021

how is it possible not to know what pre-k is lol

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:44

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

bawfuls posted:

the succ is eating itself?

https://twitter.com/meredithshiner/status/1440337035227582475

Those brown nosing little brats don't have the gonads to walk out

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:44

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/staticbluebat/status/1440369219359494149?s=19

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:44

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

i havent watched an episode of family guy in maybe a decade but i kind of feel like stewies endorsement would suggest the vaccine probably isnt trustworthy

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:46

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

geoblocking my vaccine PSA incase the enemies in cuba try to see it

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:50

Fleetwood: Mar 26, 2010; biggest hochul head in china

imagine being an american diplomat in cuba, having to everyday see the smiling faces of a democratic people, that would wear on you

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:50

Srice: Sep 11, 2011

it's cool as hell how people who believe in havana syndrome are also the sort of folks to yell about how all unvaccinated people are idiots that don't believe in science

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:54

Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

Srice posted:

it's cool as hell how people who believe in havana syndrome are also the sort of folks to yell about how all unvaccinated people are idiots that don't believe in science

# ? Sep 22, 2021 00:55

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

What about a havana syndrome vaccine

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:00

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

"I was against the vaccine but a weird gay little baby told me to."

"Oh yea I like mayor Pete too."

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:07

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

for those arguing with libs about the RUSSIAN MIND BEAMS, this book might be useful

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030407452

quote:

It is one of the most extraordinary cases in the history of science: the mating calls of insects were mistaken for a �sonic weapon� that led to a major diplomatic row. Since August 2017, the world media has been absorbed in the �attack� on diplomats from the American and Canadian Embassies in Cuba. While physicians treating victims have described it as a novel and perplexing condition that involves an array of complaints including brain damage, the authors present compelling evidence that mass psychogenic illness was the cause of �Havana Syndrome.�
This mysterious condition that has baffled experts is explored across 11-chapters which offer insights by a prominent neurologist and an expert on psychogenic illness. A lively and enthralling read, the authors explore the history of similar scares from the 18th century belief that sounds from certain musical instruments were harmful to human health, to 19th century cases of �telephone shock,� and more contemporary panics involving people living near wind turbines that have been tied to a variety of health complaints. The authors provide dozens of examples of kindred episodes of mass hysteria throughout history, in addition to psychosomatic conditions and even the role of insects in triggering outbreaks.

Havana Syndrome: Mass Psychogenic Illness and the Real Story Behind the Embassy Mystery and Hysteria is a scientific detective story and a case study in the social construction of mass psychogenic illness.

Robert W. Baloh, MD is a distinguished professor of Neurology and Head and Neck Surgery at the David Geffen School of Medicine, UCLA. Author of 11 books and over 300 articles in peer-reviewed science journals, he is a pioneer in the study of the vestibular system: the part of the inner ear which helps people to maintain their sense of balance and spatial awareness. He has developed tests of vestibular function that are used by inner ear specialists around the world.

Robert E. Bartholomew, PhD is an Honorary Senior Lecturer in the Department of Psychological Medicine at the University of Auckland. He completed a doctorate in Medical Sociology from James Cook University in Australia and his Master�s in Sociology from the State University of New York at Albany. He has published in over 60 peer-reviewed journals, has been featured in a National Geographic series on modern myths and has appeared on The History and Discovery Channels. A Fellow with the Center for Inquiry in Amherst, New York, he teaches History at Botany College in Auckland.

one of the authors writes about the book here: https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/havana-syndrome-skepticism-it-was-probably-psychogenic-by-robert-bartholomew/

quote:

In early December 2020, a copy of the Academy�s report was leaked to the media, after which they quickly made the study public.1 Their findings surprised many scientists who had been following the case, by embracing one of the most exotic of explanations: microwaves. Committee chair David Relman concluded that the most plausible explanation was a �directed radio frequency energy attack� which could explain many of the symptoms. Scientists have long been aware of a phenomenon known as �the Frey effect,� where pulsed microwave beams aimed at a person�s head are known to produce clicking sounds. Relman wrote that �If a Frey-like effect can be induced on central nervous system tissue responsible for space and motion information processing, it likely would induce similarly idiosyncratic responses� [including] alterations in brain functioning.�2

The Frey effect is named after Allan Frey, a pioneer in radiation research. But there are many problems with the explanation. It is highly speculative, and none of the panel members appeared to be experts on the biological impact of microwaves and the Frey effect. Someone who is a specialist on the effect, University of Pennsylvania bioengineer Kenneth Foster, is critical of the report, observing that there is no evidence that the Frey effect can cause injuries. Furthermore, the effect requires a tremendous amount of energy to create a sound that is barely audible.3 Foster should know, in 1974, he and Edward Finch were the first scientists to describe the mechanism involved in the effect while working at the Naval Medical Research Institute in Maryland.4

Foster views any link between his eponymous effect and Havana Syndrome as pure fantasy. �It is just a totally incredible explanation for what happened to these diplomats�. It�s just not possible. The idea that someone could beam huge amounts of microwave energy at people and not have it be obvious defies credibility.�5 The former head of the Electromagnetics division of the Environmental Protection Agency, Ric Tell, also views the microwave link as science fiction. Tell spent decades working on standards for safe exposure to electromagnetic radiation, including microwaves. �If a guy is standing in front of a high-powered radio antenna � and it�s got to be high, really high � then he could experience his body getting warmer,� Tell said. �But to cause brain-tissue damage, you would have to impart enough energy to heat it up to the point where it�s cooking. I don�t know how you could do that, especially if you were trying to transmit through a wall. It�s just not plausible,� he said.6

So, if Havana Syndrome is not caused by microwaves, what could it be? The panel viewed the possibility of mass hysteria as unlikely but could not rule it out. The report states that there was insufficient information to determine the social patterning of symptoms as �the committee received no epidemiological evidence about patterns of social contacts that would permit a determination about possible social contagion.� They specifically noted that they were unaware of any index case (the first person to be affected) and subsequent cases after that.

This is where the story takes a strange twist: the social patterning of the early stages of the outbreak were outlined in the 2020 book, Havana Syndrome, co-authored by myself and Robert Baloh and published in May,7 and in two lengthy reports by journalist Timothy Golden in 2018 and 2019. Golden talked to Embassy diplomats and looked at government documents related to the case.8 None of these publications were cited in the report. Apparently, they were unaware of their existence � which is mystifying because as early as November 5, 2019, the Chief Medical Officer at the State Department was made aware of the book and its contents.9 Just imagine, a panel of scientists is convened to investigate the cause of a mysterious illness outbreak.

The only comprehensive study of the case is contained in a book published by a leading scientific publisher and is written by a preeminent neurologist who created some of the tests that were given to the affected diplomats in order to assess their condition � and the panel is not aware of the study. Equally baffling, a prominent journalist published two lengthy, detailed reports, and they too were ignored. These reports appeared in a major media outlet, Propublica, and were written by Timothy Golden, a winner of two Pulitzer Prizes. It just so happens that these studies contain detailed information on what the panel claims they could not find: the social patterning of the outbreak, including how it began and spread through the diplomatic community in Cuba.

This is simple negligence on the part of the National Academy of Sciences.

The report notes that diplomats often felt unwell after hearing mysterious sounds, which lends credence to suggestions that they were attacked or exposed to an unknown energy source. However, the committee makes no mention of the numerous recordings of �attacks� that were made by various diplomats and were later analyzed. Several were examined by the Cuban investigation committee, others were scrutinized by the FBI, while a third was analysed by biologists. Each turned out to be insect sounds.10

There is also a concern that those overseeing the panel may have had motives that were driven more by politics than science. For instance, the former President of the Royal College of Psychiatrists told me that he was invited to join the panel, only to be dropped. The reason: a radio interview he gave in which he espoused the likelihood that Havana Syndrome was psychogenic. This suggests the possibility of a bias against a psychological explanation. This is not only more likely and is grounded in known science, it is by far the more embarrassing explanation for the physicians at the State Department who, early in the outbreak, may have mistaken the sounds of crickets and cicadas for an attack by a hostile foreign power. Curiously, it is the State Department who commissioned the study. Coincidence? While this is speculation, what is not conjecture is the glaring failure of the panel to evaluate evidence that was laying in plain sight.

Golden provides a rich description of the early social patterning and spread of Havana Syndrome. Once the State Department had accepted the sonic device explanation, U.S. diplomats who were being posted to Havana �were quietly warned they could face a mysterious threat that was causing American Foreign Service officers to fall ill, some with long-lasting symptoms.�11 Those diplomats who were about to be posted to Havana were even played audio recordings made by staff in Cuba, of the mysterious sounds that had accompanied their symptoms. These recordings were later identified as crickets and cicadas. These actions encouraged more �attacks� because new Embassy staff were on the lookout for sounds that resembled these very insects. As one Embassy worker told us: �If, prior to deploying to Havana, a government official were given this recording and told it was the hallmark of a debilitating attack, it is completely understandable that said official would arrive in Havana, hear the insects not long after, and fear the worst.�12

By counseling future Embassy staff over the perceived threat, an expectation of illness was created, and with it, a frame through which future sounds and symptoms were to be interpreted. This is a classic set-up for an outbreak of mass psychogenic illness.

the NAS ignored any evidence it was mass psychogenic illness, including ignoring the scientists that literally came up with the tests they were administering. Its all just crickets and in their heads.

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:09

Donkwich: Feb 28, 2011; Grimey Drawer

havana syndrome is the lib brain unable to process pure socialism

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:12

ram dass in hell: Dec 29, 2019

sexpig by night posted:

"I was against the vaccine but a weird gay little baby told me to."

"Oh yea I like mayor Pete too."

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:12

PoontifexMacksimus: Feb 14, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

i want to start seeing late night commercials saying "If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Havana Syndrome you may to be entitled to financial compensation." why stop at CIA agents? cover everyone drat it! i have havana syndrome now (headache, bad vibes), where's my compensation!!

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1440445202527711246

justice for Brown Moses

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:13

F Stop Fitzgerald: Dec 12, 2010

sexpig by night posted:

"I was against the vaccine but a weird gay little baby told me to."

"Oh yea I like mayor Pete too."

lmao

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:14

Dixon Chisholm: Jan 2, 2020

sexpig by night posted:

"I was against the vaccine but a weird gay little baby told me to."

"Oh yea I like mayor Pete too."

lil homie gayass

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:14

Plank Walker: Aug 11, 2005

Uncle Wemus posted:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1440351821898211343?s=20

the last comedian that targeted congressmen got canceled real hard, but not before landing a hell of a zinger on steve scalise

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:15

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

it takes a special kind of idiot to believe the russians have developped

some kind of undetectable weapon,
completely in secret,
the weapon is fired from incredible distance (space?),
it can cause debilitating brain injuries,
it can be aimed with such precision that only SOME people in a building will get injuries,

...and they chose to first use it on random embassy fuckwits of no importance instead of say, Congress.

Excelzior has issued a correction as of 01:17 on Sep 22, 2021

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:15

Plank Walker: Aug 11, 2005

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/staticbluebat/status/1440369219359494149?s=19

i'm sure the effete and condescending cartoon liberal infant with the british accent will convince the chuds that the vaccine is good

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:17

Cranappleberry: Jan 27, 2009

the extent of scientific inquiry by many goons is that because there are sounds and light effects that can make people nauseous and pain beams exist so this technology isn't fantastical, must definitely exist and is being used.

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PoontifexMacksimus: Feb 14, 2012

sexpig by night posted:

"I was against the vaccine but a weird gay little baby told me to."

"Oh yea I like mayor Pete too."

# ? Sep 22, 2021 01:21

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