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hot cocoa on the couch posted:i once had my alternator die on me while i was driving on the highway in my old civic. my lights shut off, my power steering cut out and all my instruments died, but it had a mechanical fuel pump, distributor and manual transmission in it so the tiny bit of juice required to fire the spark plugs drove me another 18 nervewracking kilometers to the next exit where i got off, pulled into the nearest gas station, and it promptly died lol. had my brother bring me a spare, he boosted me and i was on my way in under 3 hours maybe cars aren't the problem. maybe electricity is the problem.  no it's cars.
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ArmZ posted:maybe cars aren't the problem. maybe electricity is the problem. well, in your country it's both lol (assuming you're in america)
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Microcars for the elderly and disabled are ok imo I'm sorry this is the I hate cars thread the justify cars for your pet edge cases thread is probably in D&D or something. The old can ride in my pedicab with the quadruple amputees. Tho I will say some of the olds in my life have an amazing ability to keep riding. I have three neighbors over 75 yrs old that ride daily tho one of them just swapped out for an ebike because we live in hilly semi rural area and she was struggling on this Raleigh mixtie that she had been riding since the 70s probably.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:well, in your country it's both lol (assuming you're in america) the usa has a robust and relatively cheap electric grid  except for texas
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ArmZ posted:the usa has a robust and relatively cheap electric grid yeah robust at burning hella coal and natural gas lmao
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:yeah robust at burning hella coal and natural gas lmao Illinois get's like 54% of it's power from Nuclear Energy. loving owns. Also the Texas grid is more reliable then the hell that is California and their 3rd-world "rolling brownouts," plus the Texas grid is heavily powered by wind and also nuclear energy. Anyway, nuclear powered bullet trains. I want to get door-to-door from brooklyn to a friend in SF in under 4hours.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:yeah robust at burning hella coal and natural gas lmao https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/share-of-coal-fired-generation-in-total-electricity-generation-2010-2019
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Illinois get's like 54% of it's power from Nuclear Energy. loving owns. at that speed you can put windmills on the top of the train and it will be able to power itself for most of the trip…. genius
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I'm only familiar with recent rail proposals for the Southeast, but it's funny that he left out the most common one for an Atlanta-Charlotte line. Just more dumb car brain.
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SKULL.GIF posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/comments/pt4bfi/my_citygroningennl_and_the_battle_against/ People love dismissing the Netherlands as some sort of unique bycycling unicorn, but they made all of the same mistakes the US did in the mid-20th century. They just decided to stop making them. Here's a video about the canal they tore out to build an urban highway - which they tore out to build a canal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePpwYCs_JM
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indigi posted:even under his ridiculous framework there’s no reason not to connect the Midwest and east coast with a Philly-Pittsburgh-Chicago branch, or DC-Charlotte-Atlanta What the hell does this mean https://twitter.com/fawfulfan/status/1440718357888585729
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Beijing and Shanghai are linked by 1200 km of high-speed rail but the United States of America is too big to have high speed rail between cities like Chicago and New York, which are a whopping, let's see here, 1200 km away from each other
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vyelkin posted:Beijing and Shanghai are linked by 1200 km of high-speed rail but the United States of America is too big to have high speed rail between cities like Chicago and New York, which are a whopping, let's see here, 1200 km away from each other one funny quirk about china discourse in the USA is the total incapability of so many americans to comprehend that China is roughly the same size of the USA 
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American visiting any city with decent transportation infrastructure: "Oh it was wonderful. We took the trolleys/trains/buses everywhere and walked all over the city. Everything was accessible from our hotel room downtown." American returning home to their suburb: "Vote NO on the new rail proposal that would bring crime to our community, wouldn't see enough ridership to turn a profit, and would drain our city's finances."
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Fitzy Fitz posted:American visiting any city with decent transportation infrastructure: "Oh it was wonderful. We took the trolleys/trains/buses everywhere and walked all over the city. Everything was accessible from our hotel room downtown." https://twitter.com/bro_neill/status/1348355127216910336?lang=en
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Leroy Diplowski posted:I'm sorry this is the I hate cars thread the justify cars for your pet edge cases thread is probably in D&D or something. ebikes are rad as heck
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I love how car-brain sets up a completely different set of assumptions for train line vs freeway construction Why can't we fund HSR? Well it's expensive and doesn't pay for itself!! Unlike the freeway system that's definitely not a giant pit of taxpayer dollars subsidizing private profits Why can't even my fictional imagined US train lines connect? Because there's no point to building train lines through non-densely populated areas! Nevermind that we've been building freeways through the middle of loving nowhere for 70 years and watching them incubate development in entirely new areas
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QUEER FRASIER posted:Why can't even my fictional imagined US train lines connect? Because there's no point to building train lines through non-densely populated areas! Nevermind that we've been building freeways through the middle of loving nowhere for 70 years and watching them incubate development in entirely new areas it's also just plain stupid because even in non-densely-populated areas of the US there are cities big enough to be worth linking with HSR. like take for instance that guy's dumbass map where he claims there's no point linking the networks. his three little tiny networks in the midwest, northeast, and southeast connect cities like Detroit (metro pop 4.4M), Milwaukee (metro pop 1.6M), Madison (metro pop 900k), Minneapolis (metro pop 3.7M), Baltimore (metro pop 2.8M), Jacksonville (metro pop 1.5M), Orlando (metro pop 2.5M), and Tampa (metro pop 3.1M). why not link those up? im sure he would tell you something whiny about population centres and distances, but honestly when you're imagining a map that doesn't exist in real life and has no cost estimates attached to it, how much trouble would it be to expand your connections from detroit and chicago through Indianapolis (metro pop 2M), Cincinnati (metro pop 2.2M), Columbus (metro pop 2.1M), Cleveland (metro pop 2.1M), and Pittsburgh (metro pop 2.4M) to link up to DC and Philly? why not then extend that network down the eastern seaboard to hit Richmond (metro pop 1.2M), Raleigh/Durham (metro pop 2M), and Charlotte (metro pop 2.7M) on the way to Atlanta? if you can justify HSR to Madison, Wisconsin, you can justify it to literally all of those cities and end up with a proper HSR network, but car culture has convinced people that better transportation networks aren't possible and centrist neoliberalism has convinced people that it's better to be """""realistic"""" than to be ambitious
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vyelkin posted:it's also just plain stupid because even in non-densely-populated areas of the US there are cities big enough to be worth linking with HSR. like take for instance that guy's dumbass map where he claims there's no point linking the networks. his three little tiny networks in the midwest, northeast, and southeast connect cities like Detroit (metro pop 4.4M), Milwaukee (metro pop 1.6M), Madison (metro pop 900k), Minneapolis (metro pop 3.7M), Baltimore (metro pop 2.8M), Jacksonville (metro pop 1.5M), Orlando (metro pop 2.5M), and Tampa (metro pop 3.1M). tbh a bigger problem with linking HSR networks in the USA is the existing regulatory environment our railroads operate in. our rail network with a few notable exceptions, such as the northeast corridor (amtrak) and other little chunks (various state providers, but not all portions of their operated networks) is entirely privately owned. the class 1 freight railroads are typically hostile to intrusions onto their rights-of-way of any variety, including shared services with transit providers. this is due to a whole host of reasons, but the most obvious one is that freight railroads are highly conservative, profit driven enterprises that haven't evolved since the 19th century for the most part - they will resist anything that impacts their bottom line. further, the freight railroads are federally regulated by the FRA and can't operationally be compelled to do anything by local or state agencies - the agencies typically responsible for passenger transit like commuter rail or state-funded amtrak services. they own all the track and all the areas around that track on the tax map, and you can't do anything about it - if they say you can't use a portion of their track, that's pretty much the end of the discussion. the feds don't really have an appetite for taking on the freight railroads due to the incredible political support needed to change policy at the federal level, as well as the considerable legal cost that would be associated with any attempt to do so, as the freights have a host of lobbyists to keep things the way they are, and armies of lawyers to fight other moves like state-led condemnation (eminent domain) attempts. basically, to get the freight railroads to agree to let a transit agency use their ROW for uninterrupted HSR, you'd need new federal legislation to force them to comply, and the feds would likely have to pay for the lion's share of track upgrades that would make HSR physically comfortable for passengers. this is due to our little buddy the 5th amendment, which prevents "takings without just compensation" - this includes regulatory takings, which the railroad would probably argue this hypothetical legislation is, and they'd and probably win in today's political environment. this is not even considering the operational difficulty of implementing HSR on existing freight ROWs, including but not limited to substandard track for HSR operations (a lot of our network was built in the 19th and early 20th century with curves and such features you'd never build today that physically can't run a HSR train), different PTC standards and tech on different railroads, different signalling and control technology and implementation, labor union agreements, maintenance agreements, etc. HSR is a lot more than just running a faster train on some existing tracks - you need signal upgrades, electrification, straight ROW, upgraded (AND continually maintained) rail, etc. absent national legislation to compel the freight railroads, you'd probably need to purchase (even eminent domain REQUIRES payment) all new ROW for significant chunks of the whole thing - easier to do in states with lots of federal lands but extraordinarily expensive in developed states like those in the northeast. effectively, you'd be building a new interstate highway system, but in an environment with a lot more regulations than existed at the time of the interstate's conception, like NEPA at the national level, which requires a years long process of environmental and historical review, and compliance with all the the different laws in the 50 states. this is not to say a national HSR can't be done in the USA, but that it's an extraordinarily complicated undertaking due to how we treat railroads in general extending back to before cars even really existed in the way they do now, and much more so than can be explained in this little post. but hey, we nationalized them once (USRA), bailed them out big time (Conrail, Amtrak), so we could probably do it again if stuff got bad enough.
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ArmZ posted:correct, it is an italian greyhound. how does it speak without opposable thumbs
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SKULL.GIF posted:one funny quirk about china discourse in the USA is the total incapability of so many americans to comprehend that China is roughly the same size of the USA lol love that you included taiwan
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What about Six Flag builds a giant trans-continental rollercoaster?!
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Amazing how the biggest barriers to change & progress can be totally imaginary no disagreements here. country is a weird, mean place.
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lobster shirt posted:https://twitter.com/aashtospeaks/status/1161699516673925121 Why are the lanes on the bridge backwards
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indigi posted:even under his ridiculous framework there’s no reason not to connect the Midwest and east coast with a Philly-Pittsburgh-Chicago branch, or DC-Charlotte-Atlanta the us is the best nation in the world and can do whatever, but in this extremely specific condition, its impossible in this day and age we boldly go nowhere
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Why are the lanes on the bridge backwards its a madness rune
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