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The worst part is they could very easily loosen up the visa rules for drivers, brexit or not. I mean okay their constituents would be livid, but they can do it if they want.
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Comrade Fakename posted:My problem with heat pumps is that no one in this country seems to understand how they're supposed to work? Heat pumps are basically just air conditioners in reverse - in fact they should be easy to switch into air conditioning mode for the summer. But that means that they should heat in the same way AC cools - the heating/cooling pipes attach to vents around the home and pump hot or cold air into the rooms. But from what I can see we're instead trying to retrofit heat pumps onto our traditional central heating systems, basically sticking heat pumps onto the boiler to heat it, and then pumping the hot water around the house. But this is the thing heat pumps are absolutely worst at, leading to slower heating, and completely removing the benefit of also having AC (which is getting more and more important every year). Heat pumps should be heating or cooling our houses directly, and then leaving heating a boiler to more traditional means (though you can get heat pump augmented in to make it more efficient). My boiler needs replacing and I looked into the possibilities of heat pumps, but the poo poo version had a state subsidy while the good version had absolutely nothing, even though it costs more. Heats pumps work just fine with hydronic water heating and is the most common setup here (also see his video on using the ground as a source). Floor heating in a slab is really good. Radiators are also fine if they're big enough, there are some radiators that run at higher temps to work. My parents replaced their radiators when they switched to a heat pump with ones that were more effective at lower temperatures (bigger surface area). Worked pretty well. EDIT: I suspect the issue is as some have said, how well the houses can retain the heat generated. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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DaWolfey posted:Same for busses here. They've had to reduce the timetable - half their drivers have quit. Stagecoach are full of poo poo, It’s a official union work to rule over wages, if they stop taking training money out the wages and pay them more than less than minimum wage then the overtime ban ends.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Lol apparently ambulance drivers are quitting left right and centre to earn 30k more driving HGVs instead. Good job we're not in a health crisis or that would be a real bummer. christmas is saved! except for those who need ambulances for their annual granny dumping tradition so they can enjoy themselves while nan sits in a care of the elderly ward
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NotJustANumber99 posted:any other help you need with your wife? Now that you mention it… Anyway, I’m surprised nobody has posted Johnson’s Kermit speech, although perhaps it belongs in the schadenfreude thread.
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endlessmonotony posted:People don't believe me when I say the biggest shock in visiting England was just how shoddy everything was. Yeah, I didn't really encounter much racism in Aberdeen (because I'm white, most likely), but sometimes I would run into these young conservative English types who had this incredibly snooty attitude to someone from Europe. "Oh isn't it great that we have horrible housing, bland food and bad internet? You continentials just don't understand how great Britain is." It was very odd. I didn't meet many of them, since I mostly hung out with roleplayers, metalheads and pagans, but the debate society had some. Debating was a good way to practice speaking English, but some of the people there were rather odd. And living in Scotland and seeing some of the aftereffects of Thatcher made me a sort of socialist, so there is that.
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learnincurve posted:Stagecoach are full of poo poo, It’s a official union work to rule over wages, if they stop taking training money out the wages and pay them more than less than minimum wage then the overtime ban ends. Recovering training from people still working from you (as opposed to the also-pretty-scummy practice of recovering it from people who leave the job within a certain period of time) just screams "scam" to me. I'm not sure what the rules specifically are for training but if it does take employees below NMW then HMRC should be looking closely at them
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The thing that struck me about moving to Australia was just how crap the houses are compared to the UK so it could be worse.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Tory MP: Couple of years ago the Brits vote to keep the immigrants out, and now people itt are strategizing whether their car runs on grain alcohol or when their Tesco will have fruit again. It could not be more karmic. Now what needs to happen is for the bad government to get replaced by a good government, so this whole idiocy can be rolled back. Well I hope it's a lesson to all the other countries in the EU.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Lol apparently ambulance drivers are quitting left right and centre to earn 30k more driving HGVs instead. Good job we're not in a health crisis or that would be a real bummer. Don't worry the invisible hand of the market will solve this by allocating resources and labour for maximum efficiency! Wait no not like that!
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It would be more karmic if the unpleasantness was happening to the people responsible rather than me. Also tbh the whole thing does not endear me to wanting to be part of the EU.
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Haramstufe Rot posted:Now what needs to happen is for the bad government to get replaced by a good government, so this whole idiocy can be rolled back. *Keir kicks door in but only his foot goes through so he's stuck in the door*
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OwlFancier posted:It would be more karmic if the unpleasantness was happening to the people responsible rather than me. How should the EU be dealing with the UK, then?
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Failed Imagineer posted:How should the EU be dealing with the UK, then? Like the Kings of the earth we are! How dare you!
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Failed Imagineer posted:How should the EU be dealing with the UK, then? I mean the EU can deal with the UK however it wants, it's just that "join or eat poo poo" does not engender a positive view? Yes you can threaten people into doing what you want but I think the proper response to that is to dislike the person or organization making the threats. I wouldn't expect people to like the UK when it does that either. Also I feel like if the UK economy is shown to be dependent on precarious exploitable labour, the considered solution should not be "drat better do whatever it takes to turn the precarious labour tap back on" Feels very "we need to go back to the 2012 olympics" brain IMO.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean the EU can deal with the UK however it wants, it's just that "join or eat poo poo" does not engender a positive view? Yes you can threaten people into doing what you want but I think the proper response to that is to dislike the person or organization making the threats. I wouldn't expect people to like the UK when it does that either. But it's not that at all. It's "if you're not in the club, you don't get the benefits of being in the club". It might be done with performative German smugness or something, but that's what it is. The UK made a decision based on racists swallowing xenophobic propaganda, and now it's turning out to be a bad decision. Shocked Pikachu face that the UK is now being treated like any other country (except not really, because the UK is flouting rhe terms of the withdrawal agreement and the EU has paused legal action to avoid further gammon pants-making GBS threads)
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Is the EU threatening us? Or are we just punching ourselves in the faces repeatedly?
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You can make the argument that joining the EU would be a material improvement, in the exact same way that having a job is better than starving, but you are not supposed to like the people who you work for or the system that means you will starve if you do not? Your employer does not have to take the bread out of your mouth in order to threaten you, similarly the EU does not have to actively do anything to threaten the UK. There is a system in place to ensure that misery is inflicted if you don't comply with those with more power than you. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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OwlFancier posted:You can make the argument that joining the EU would be a material improvement, in the exact same way that having a job is better than starving, but you are not supposed to like the people who you work for or the system that means you will starve if you do not? OK specifically, how should the EU be treating the UK now, and what have they done maliciously WRT Brexit? The EU is to some extent a cypto-fash bureaucratic clusterfuck but you're gonna make me white knight them if you keep on with this vague whinging
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Failed Imagineer posted:OK specifically, how should the EU be treating the UK now, and what have they done maliciously WRT Brexit? As I said the EU can do whatever it wants, I do not expect it to do anything to benefit me, my point is that I don't really see rejoining the EU as a worthwhile goal, instead I would prefer if we attempted to build an actual better society that doesn't rely on the lovely parts of the EU to paper over its failings.
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Private Speech posted:The worst part is they could very easily loosen up the visa rules for drivers, brexit or not. There was an article in the FT a few weeks back on the HGV driver shortage, talking about how over the last decade British drivers have been systematically driven out of the lorry driving industry by wage suppression. Unending pressure from the large retailers turned it from a career into a sub minimum wage job, which was kept afloat by importing drivers willing to work for the crappy wages. British drivers found that jobs working in the supermarkets rather than delivering for them now paid the same in exchange for a much less disruptive lifestyle. If they just pass a visa waiver what will be improved? Will the supermarkets use the leeway to increase wages again and build up a pool of British drivers? No, they'll just assume (correctly) that they've won the game of brinksmanship and the visa waiver program will now continue forever. I dunno I feel conflicted on this stuff. I don't want empty shelves, but a lot of the most immediate problems have been caused by two decades of terrible labour exploitation that I don't want to just see ushered back in.
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No we definitely just need to rejoin the EU and not think about it any further than that.
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So driving a lorry is such a rubbish, badly paid job that ambulance drivers are keen to quit and do instead. Doesn't say much for their wages.
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OwlFancier posted:No we definitely just need to rejoin the EU and not think about it any further than that. Maybe the fact that all you see the EU as is a poo poo, threatening source of cheap labour is kind of why theyre pleased to see the back of you.
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Getting a HGV licence is prohibitively expensive for the working class now, and HGV drivers are predominately from the working class. It’s why you rarely see anyone under the age of 50 driving a lorry. The loving Tories will throw loan after loan at students for university fees, but not lend the £12k needed (iirc) to get you in a arctic lorry.
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OwlFancier posted:As I said the EU can do whatever it wants, I do not expect it to do anything to benefit me, my point is that I don't really see rejoining the EU as a worthwhile goal, instead I would prefer if we attempted to build an actual better society that doesn't rely on the lovely parts of the EU to paper over its failings. Ah ok, so nothing then
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peanut- posted:I dunno I feel conflicted on this stuff. I don't want empty shelves, but a lot of the most immediate problems have been caused by two decades of terrible labour exploitation that I don't want to just see ushered back in.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Ah ok, so nothing then I don't recall suggesting that the EU should be behaving differently? You brought that up, again I don't really care about the EU's conduct, I don't like the thing and I'm not going to like it more if it starts doing me some meager favours, I think it is structurally a threat and that's about the end of it, my suggestion was really just that "ha ha now you suffer so you should want to come back to us" does not, in fact, make me want to do that and further that I don't think it is a proper solution to many of the current problems such as the lack of precarious labour to exploit. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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OwlFancier posted:I don't recall suggesting that the EU should be behaving differently? You brought that up, again I don't really care about the EU's conduct, I don't like the thing and I'm not going to like it more if it starts doing me some meager favours, I think it is structurally a threat and that's about the end of it, my suggestion was really just that "ha ha now you suffer so you should want to come back to us" does not, in fact, make me want to do that and further that I don't think it is a proper solution to many of the current problems such as the lack of precarious labour to exploit. Just so it's clear that when you say "the EU" what you actually mean is "forums poster Haramstufe Rot", who gloated too Germanically itt
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OwlFancier posted:ha ha now you suffer so you should want to come back to us When did the EU say this?
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Technically yes I am also averse to the notion of political unions with forums posters and I also do not think they would be a good solution to the labour shortage, but I do mean the EU in general when I say the EU.Aphex- posted:When did the EU say this? I didn't say it did?
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I for one are shocked that the political block we just left would look after their own member’s interests first and foremost and that this would negatively effect us
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Offer not valid in the Hellenic Republic.
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OwlFancier posted:instead I would prefer if we attempted to build an actual better society that doesn't rely on the lovely parts of the EU to paper over its failings. Is this even possible as an isolated island full of terfs and tories?
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Lungboy posted:Is this even possible as an isolated island full of terfs and tories? Ironically it’s the exact reason Terfs and Tories wanted to leave the EU. And here we are with no HGV infrastructure, rising utilities costs, and when they go back to imperial; massive price hikes hidden behind it.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean if all I cared about was what seemed possible I would just vote tory all the time because that seems like the most likely to win. And part of the problem with "most likely to win" is I have a suspicion a lot of people vote Tory for exactly this reason - like with sports, people like to be on the "winning side". This way if they vote Tory, their side "wins", so they're a winner.
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