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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

So, like I said, I'm starting with "retard". We can see how it goes from there. I don't plan to keep an ever expanding list of regional variations and their histories and contexts in my head, but if you see people getting cute about substitutions feel free to report and I'll take a look. Maybe we get it right, maybe not, there'll be misses on the way. For now we're starting from zero so I don't see anything wrong with starting with one word.
You should just start with meaning/context, you can't fix the basic problem with word filter modding by expanding the list.

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

This continues to be brought up but like... I swear I see Trump thread posters all over the goddamn place. Where is the notion coming from that people who post in there are some insular enclave that don't engage with other threads?
If you look at the overlap of top posters (who define thread culture) between various C-SPAM threads, the Trump thread stands out as remarkably isolated. They're not completely isolated (unfortunately one might say), but they're out of step with the majority.

Obviously the less committed Trump thread posters are likely better able to adjust to the tone of each thread, which is why people don't recognize them as Trump thread posters - and conversely, why people call out obvious Trump thread posters because they seem incapable of doing it.

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Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Confused by protestant moralizing guy, like, would he be okay with Greek orthodox moralizing?

Dustcat
Jan 26, 2019

trump thread posters being able to sneak into other threads unrecognized sounds dangerous, what are the mods doing to prevent this

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

A Buttery Pastry posted:

You should just start with meaning/context, you can't fix the basic problem with word filter modding by expanding the list.

If you look at the overlap of top posters (who define thread culture) between various C-SPAM threads, the Trump thread stands out as remarkably isolated. They're not completely isolated (unfortunately one might say), but they're out of step with the majority.

Obviously the less committed Trump thread posters are likely better able to adjust to the tone of each thread, which is why people don't recognize them as Trump thread posters - and conversely, why people call out obvious Trump thread posters because they seem incapable of doing it.

man, at least they arn't fuckin nerds

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Good morning!

John Charity Spring posted:

Here's a question for the mods: it's been said before that a handful of users in D&D and CSPAM use up their entire report allowance each day. Is this still the case, are reports disproportionately from specific posters?
It hasn't been for a while, no. At least not in CSPAM. D&D generates the most reports of any forum by far though, I can usually tell if something's popping off if I check the queue and suddenly the left column is just nothing but D&D tags lol

really queer Christmas posted:

More mod feedback I just thought of: now that you're a mod son of Thunderbeast you can continue chain probing how r u
:evilbuddy:
I actually considered reaching back for one last sixer once I got made mod as a way of announcing myself, but relented.

really queer Christmas posted:

I also thought the back and forth was tedious to read but lmao at proving his point lald
yes thank you lib and let die for helping to clarify the issue somewhat jfc

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Gas the Trump thread for some funny meltdowns.


Zurtilik posted:

I have a degree in political science with a minor in philosophy so according to that one post I should be a mod. A real meritocracy we run here.

I can design the CSPAM mod placement test.
this could be very funny

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

This continues to be brought up but like... I swear I see Trump thread posters all over the goddamn place. Where is the notion coming from that people who post in there are some insular enclave that don't engage with other threads?
I don't know, but I recently was made aware that some people also think the same thing of succ zone posters? I dunno I feel like I very often see the megathread posters around in other parts of CSPAM and the forums at large. I wasn't really aware of this perception and now I'm noticing it more and more. My current hypothesis is X parts projection Y parts it being real but only with certain posters. Nothing wrong with having a home thread anyway

docbeard posted:

CSPAM's got a handful of largely insular communities with some overlap but not that much (Trump thread, succ zone, the hardcore Marxists, the people who are only here to talk about cum town, I think the COVID thread is largely its own thing, and I'm sure there are others) and I generally think that's fine but I also think it's something that needs to be acknowledged and understood.

The problem with drawing every mod from the Trump thread wasn't that the Trump thread is bad (it is, but that just makes it a thread in CSPAM) it's that it really only represents 1/4th at best of the CSPAM community as a whole. Fortunately that practice seems to be a thing of the past now.
Agreed, I think some wider representation would be good and that seems to be the direction we're heading.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013


:sickos:

DarkEuphoria
Nov 7, 2012


Dustcat posted:

trump thread posters being able to sneak into other threads unrecognized sounds dangerous, what are the mods doing to prevent this

Gotta keep those weirdos out of the other threads

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

A Buttery Pastry posted:

You should just start with meaning/context, you can't fix the basic problem with word filter modding by expanding the list.

If you look at the overlap of top posters (who define thread culture) between various C-SPAM threads, the Trump thread stands out as remarkably isolated. They're not completely isolated (unfortunately one might say), but they're out of step with the majority.

Obviously the less committed Trump thread posters are likely better able to adjust to the tone of each thread, which is why people don't recognize them as Trump thread posters - and conversely, why people call out obvious Trump thread posters because they seem incapable of doing it.

Show us your spreadsheets!

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

sending the trump thread to fyad would be funny. sending the marxism thread to fyad would have been funny as hell if anyone but flavius did it

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Son of Thunderbeast posted:




this could be very funny

Agreed, it'd be very funny.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
oh also if anyone's wondering how I personally feel about the trump thread, I like it. Every time I've checked it out it's been good dumb fun, just posters being knuckleheads together. Lotta positive energy. Very cspam imo

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Probably Magic posted:

Confused by protestant moralizing guy, like, would he be okay with Greek orthodox moralizing?

calvinism: good things happen to good people, bad things happen to bad people. good and bad are innate essences that you can't change. add in arbeit macht frei

a garbage idea that is also expressed in the prosperity gospel

it leads to all sorts of bad takes:
  • horse paste eaters should die choking because they are stupid
  • hillary clinton deserves to be president because she's the most qualified
  • it's just that haitans should be whipped with reins because they were born in the wrong country

it's nicely compatible with capitalism because when someone gets hosed over you say it's their fault and when someone is rewarded with $500000 for being someone's son they earned it

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

sending the trump thread to fyad would be funny. sending the marxism thread to fyad would have been funny as hell if anyone but flavius did it

It was actually the only funny thing flavius did tbh.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

oh also if anyone's wondering how I personally feel about the trump thread, I like it. Every time I've checked it out it's been good dumb fun, just posters being knuckleheads together. Lotta positive energy. Very cspam imo

:hmmyes:

Harton
Jun 13, 2001



Beefy

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Bringing them Trump thread vibes, happy flat gently caress Friday!

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

really queer Christmas posted:

It was actually the only funny thing flavius did tbh.

Well that and his first IK act being to give Jeffery of YOSPOS a sixer in the "CSPAM closes at midnight" thread. That had me dying

Son of Thunderbeast has issued a correction as of 16:05 on Sep 24, 2021

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
oooooh nice

Harton
Jun 13, 2001


Gonna harvest next weekend, all of Cspam is invited for beefers and coffee once it’s dried and cured.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

really queer Christmas posted:

It was actually the only funny thing flavius did tbh.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

really queer Christmas posted:

It was actually the only funny thing flavius did tbh.

I agree with this if I ignore that it was part of a tantrum flavius was throwing at the time


harton were you in the tccc grow thread last year working on an attic setup? if so, nice.
if not, also nice.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


This is a recurring antagonism that honestly, is artificial. General off-topic threads have leftist discussions, just far more pulverized rather than the 100% pristine immaculate pure historical materialist concentrate of the Marxism thread. I did some effortposting on some Marxist topics in the coolzone thread back then and people outside that circle responded well to it. Personally, talking in a very practical "advancement of socialism" sense, it would be extremely counterproductive to hinder people from just shooting their poo poo and having their posting fun just because it doesn't have a regular back and forth of politically charged chatting. The mistake here is to not regard CSPAM as an leftist environment, which I feel is a much better way to describe it, I don't know?

Likewise, having moderation/administration that also has some knack for the political makes sense for this place. That doesn't mean it has to be an academic, erudite or whatever understanding of the issue (gently caress that poo poo), just an intuitive feel of the politics here. Dreylad and vyelkin are excellent picks for mods because they have this (besides being good posters).

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

:trumppop: gorgeous

VideoKid
Jul 28, 2006

Avatar War
My only feedback is that I think vlogs should be banned.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

VideoKid posted:

vlogs should be banned.

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007
no lube anal fan

:syoon:

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
I am looking to buy drugs

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

paul_soccer12 posted:

I am looking to buy drugs

Here's my number, I'll hook you up

(202) 324-3000

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Here's my number, I'll hook you up

(202) 324-3000

ha ha funny joke, that's just the cspam hotline

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Here's my number, I'll hook you up

(202) 324-3000

huh welp time to make a mental note that DC area calls with my cell's prefix number are probably not spam then

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Here's my number, I'll hook you up

(202) 324-3000

narc

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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lib and let die, could you repost the people most probed by ralph?

i think the top three should be the foremost in mod consideration.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I agree with this if I ignore that it was part of a tantrum flavius was throwing at the time

harton were you in the tccc grow thread last year working on an attic setup? if so, nice.
if not, also nice.

I was! I was an rear end in a top hat once though cause people were taking poo poo about my wet rear end buds and I pissed a bunch of people off and haven’t been back.

But it’s all insulated now with ac and heat. Super happy with it.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

docbeard posted:

Why are people so dead-set on moving popular threads to CCCC?

it is the cowards way of asking for a thread to be gassed

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Stringent posted:

lib and let die, could you repost the people most probed by ralph?

i think the top three should be the foremost in mod consideration.

im on board but lald is probed atm

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Suggesting a move to CCCC is indeed a cowardly "out of sight, out of mind" fix for some who think the chat threads being gone would magically encourage a wealth of new threads (lmao), but it would also substract the threads from being subject to the whims of capricious c-spam mods

in summary CCCC is a land of contrasts and gently caress all of you

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Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS


hello I am finally not drowning in work so I can write some things here. (the other mods have been doing a good job :tipshat:)

Sherbert Hoover posted:

I can't think of another forum on SA where one half of the posting base openly despises the other half

this is a very strange phenomenon and it sucks. we have a ton of disparate threads with different tones and cultures, which isn't a bad thing in itself, but trying to unite them all under one cspam umbrella is difficult. inevitably, when we take a Mod Action on something, a large portion of cspam will hate it, and the other portion will love it. to put it another way:

docbeard posted:

CSPAM's got a handful of largely insular communities with some overlap but not that much (Trump thread, succ zone, the hardcore Marxists, the people who are only here to talk about cum town, I think the COVID thread is largely its own thing, and I'm sure there are others) and I generally think that's fine but I also think it's something that needs to be acknowledged and understood.

it creates a bit of a disconnect between mods and users because I think the goal of most mods is to foster a happy little community, which we see as all of cspam. but here, it's more like a dozen little communities, so what "community" means is different for everyone. do we make decisions for the sake of all of cspam, or do we make decisions for individual threads? it's a push/pull dynamic that's not so easy to navigate and I think we (mods) should be more cognizant of it.

Tiler Kiwi posted:

Honestly the thing in cspam I think is more an issue than like, doomposting or bad words is just that people can get into this state of being both extremely negative and extremely white noise. Its not just shitposts or drive by bon mots but this kind of irritating thing where people wanna be extremely pissy but also wanna just shadowbox endlessly in their corners instead of having an actual argument and also wanna be real self righteous about it too when they get called out in any way about it. its just a personal preference thing on my end but I wish people would leave that sort of thing in qcs or wherever they found it.

I agree with this. people probably think cspammers are miserable people because our favorite pastime seems to be bitching about anything, really. the energy in cspam's most popular threads is negative overall. but on the other hand, we've got some of the best, most helpful threads on the forums (goonbucks, mental health, unions). so again, dichotomy, land of contrasts, etc. etc. When non-cspam goons bitch to me about cspam, I love to show them those threads.

Tiler Kiwi posted:

e: oh I have liked that people have been making more small threads, theyre good. if you have a small thread or even just a gag i think thats cool and you should make a thread about it maybe instead of sticking it in page 1500 of a big thread where i wont see it. i think there'd be more if there was less of that pissy thing i mentioned but idk im not an expert at all im just guessing okay bye.

yes please make more threads! more non-megathreads on the first page makes it easier to get new users in here

hifi posted:

also, the mods seem to rely on the "fyad-lite" aspect of c-spam as a crutch, kind of a "u mad" type reflection that doesn't really square with having a jobs thread and a monetary aid thread that the mods toot their horn about as a refutation of posting as praxis. if the forum isn't serious then none of that poo poo is serious.

I agree. the fyad-lite designation really doesn't fit in anything but the "make whitenoise shitposts" category, the fact that chain probes are available to iks if they want (which is mostly inconsequential), and that users can be mean poopyheads to each other. honestly I'd rather people chill out on that last one especially. some threads are much more like a byob-lite in terms of tone and helpfulness really.

And finally, regarding slurs:

this is a leftist space and punching down sucks. the majority of mods and iks don't like that poo poo, but it's been enforced sporadically because of lack of staff (I was the only mod for a couple months), or unwillingness to deal with the problem because of pushback or lack of direction, which was understandable. yes, we need to look at context and not just be human word filters. we also need to be more consistent in probating for slurs, and hopefully with a larger mod staff and discussion among us we can do that.

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