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The tragedy of macs becoming more ubiquitous is that now other companies think they should adopt their strategy of just telling you what you want and making you live with it. Customization doesn't make money, and we're weirdos for wanting it
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See the Windows 11 build in the release preview channel or whatever that one's called, is that essentially the RTM build with additional patches, or is there likely to another build issued as RTM?
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Sep 16, 2021 13:40
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hoping for the renaissance of alternative shells. litestep, come to butthead.....
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Sep 16, 2021 16:59
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 Open-Shell still works, if you don't mind having 2 start buttons.
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Sep 16, 2021 17:09
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Except that the other start button will remain there to taunt you as a totem to the stupidity of this whole thing, like an unsightly wart on your nose. What happens when you press winkey? Which one opens?
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Sep 17, 2021 01:26
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Something that isn't being talked about enough is software updates. I'm so tired of opening up programs like qbittorrent or da vinci resolve to find theres an update (like a fuckin 2gb one in the case of the latter). I know its not that easy when it comes to win32 apps but god drat it they ought have a baked in way by now for devs to get their updates taken care of with windows update or whatever.
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Sep 17, 2021 02:11
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codo27 posted:Something that isn't being talked about enough is software updates. I'm so tired of opening up programs like qbittorrent or da vinci resolve to find theres an update (like a fuckin 2gb one in the case of the latter). I know its not that easy when it comes to win32 apps but god drat it they ought have a baked in way by now for devs to get their updates taken care of with windows update or whatever. Dude, that's some monkey paw poo poo right there. You are invoking some really terrible poo poo by asking the operating system to handle the updates for software.
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Sep 17, 2021 02:50
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Dude, that's some monkey paw poo poo right there. I mean, most Linux distros manage. Though I think we're way too far past the point of "apt but for windows" being doable and not lovely.
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Sep 17, 2021 03:29
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Nam Taf posted:Except that the other start button will remain there to taunt you as a totem to the stupidity of this whole thing, like an unsightly wart on your nose. openshell opens shift and winkey opens the metro trash
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Sep 17, 2021 03:44
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codo27 posted:Something that isn't being talked about enough is software updates. I'm so tired of opening up programs like qbittorrent or da vinci resolve to find theres an update (like a fuckin 2gb one in the case of the latter). I know its not that easy when it comes to win32 apps but god drat it they ought have a baked in way by now for devs to get their updates taken care of with windows update or whatever. They've been working on a Windows package manager for a while, and it has been usable for a while, too. I haven't tried it, but it is a thing. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/
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Sep 17, 2021 03:58
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Chocolatey is probably the closest you’ll get to a good third party windows package manager but it falls apart the first time you have to install something that isn’t listed (90% of non-free software) or that has a broken package in their repo.
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Sep 17, 2021 04:58
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DerekSmartymans posted:Awesome! I’m 100% not coming at this as anything but a random hobby, but I still have some VB6 “teach yourself VB6 in 6 toilet breaks a day” books that helped me look stuff up before the vast sections of the online tutorials/videos were available, and FREE to access! I downloaded UE4 & 5 overnight after a couple of videos on YouTube just looked fuggin’ great on my computer, especially the few that some dude recreated World of Warcraft in UE5. I saw those graphics for 15 years, and the upgrade from the retail background to the “remastered” version was incredibly lifelike. All the add-alongs like blender and others are available, and if you have lots of time alone building a short movie or (very) simple 1p game looks like fun. You'll need something like a third party app called "VB6ScrollWheelFix7" to scroll in the VB 6 IDE. I have it somewhere if you can't find it on Google, let me know. Installing Visual Studio from the year VB 6 came out will make you install MICROSOFT JAVA IIRC also, which you will want to uninstall immediately upon completing the VB6 install. I also remember using compatibility mode and recommended settings for the installer. ALSO, you probably want to make sure and install VB 6 SP 6 which has a lot of bug fixes. I really wish MS didn't kill off VB. A lot of crappy software was made with it, but the same could be said of many languages. It's a really good tool for throwing together something to fill a niche need or for prototyping. At least they still support the runtime.
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Sep 17, 2021 10:14
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:openshell opens thank christ. I half expected 2 start menus to open, just to rub it in
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Sep 17, 2021 10:23
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codo27 posted:Something that isn't being talked about enough is software updates. I'm so tired of opening up programs like qbittorrent or da vinci resolve to find theres an update (like a fuckin 2gb one in the case of the latter). I know its not that easy when it comes to win32 apps but god drat it they ought have a baked in way by now for devs to get their updates taken care of with windows update or whatever. Microsoft Store.
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Sep 17, 2021 10:31
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nielsm posted:Microsoft Store. Desktop apps though I mean. Or did they add capability for desktop apps to it? I feel like they may have. But even that doesn't do updates worth a gently caress on the store apps as it is, you have to manually open it and do them.
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Sep 17, 2021 11:39
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Patchmypc, despite looking like trash, does a really good job of updating desktop apps. It's no replacement for a proper package manager though.
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Sep 17, 2021 12:26
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:You'll need something like a third party app called "VB6ScrollWheelFix7" to scroll in the VB 6 IDE. I have it somewhere if you can't find it on Google, let me know. Installing Visual Studio from the year VB 6 came out will make you install MICROSOFT JAVA IIRC also, which you will want to uninstall immediately upon completing the VB6 install. I also remember using compatibility mode and recommended settings for the installer. ALSO, you probably want to make sure and install VB 6 SP 6 which has a lot of bug fixes. I saved this in a *.txt file and sent it to my computer because it will be much easier to install knowing the tag-alongs without all the Google searches. Thanks!
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Sep 17, 2021 15:35
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codo27 posted:Desktop apps though I mean. Or did they add capability for desktop apps to it? I feel like they may have. But even that doesn't do updates worth a gently caress on the store apps as it is, you have to manually open it and do them. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/building-a-new-open-microsoft-store-on-windows-11/ You can fit anything in Microsoft store now, which given their lassez faire attitude in the past might mean lots of malware from the store.
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Sep 17, 2021 16:01
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Windows 10 is pretty great and 8 wasn't as bad as it got credit for, but the store has been the major failure of it all. Just trash all around.
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Sep 17, 2021 16:35
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nielsm posted:Microsoft Store. Wait a second, lemme check my event log real quick... quote:Deployment Register operation with target volume C: on Package Microsoft.WindowsMaps_2021.2012.10.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe from: (AppxBundleManifest.xml) failed with error 0x80073CF9. See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=235160 for help diagnosing app deployment issues. the MS Store can't even keep their own apps up to date, lol
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Sep 17, 2021 17:09
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Klyith posted:Wait a second, lemme check my event log real quick... Yeah, my Windows 10 desktop attempted to update a handful of Microsoft things through the store (e.g. the H*** codecs) for at least a half hour last night and nothing happened. Tried a few troubleshooting steps but nothing fixed it.
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Sep 17, 2021 18:08
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rolled back to 10 and it's nice having working system tray icons and not needing to go through two menus when you right click on something again would be nice if 11s Settings panel got backported though. never been a fan of 10s version
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Sep 17, 2021 18:15
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site posted:rolled back to 10 and it's nice having working system tray icons and not needing to go through two menus when you right click on something again I'm sure they'll fix it in the 2 weeks-or-so left until release
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Sep 17, 2021 19:53
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I'm sure they'll fix it in the 2 weeks-or-so left until release I'd expect it 2-6 months post release.
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Sep 18, 2021 11:33
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WattsvilleBlues posted:See the Windows 11 build in the release preview channel or whatever that one's called, is that essentially the RTM build with additional patches, or is there likely to another build issued as RTM? Anyone?
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Sep 23, 2021 17:38
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Anyone? That's the channel for builds that could be RTM, but will likely(hopefully) have additional bugfixes before release. I don't think there have been any W11 releases in that channel yet. The announcements on their blog still only mention Dev and Beta channels.
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Sep 23, 2021 17:59
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Hungry Computer posted:That's the channel for builds that could be RTM, but will likely(hopefully) have additional bugfixes before release. I don't think there have been any W11 releases in that channel yet. The announcements on their blog still only mention Dev and Beta channels. Oh I'm sure it'll get patches etc., I'm just wondering if I can install Windows 11 now and when it's officially released I don't need to do a reinstall with another ISO or whatever.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:42
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Oh I'm sure it'll get patches etc., I'm just wondering if I can install Windows 11 now and when it's officially released I don't need to do a reinstall with another ISO or whatever. Yes. If your system is on a Beta or Release Preview build when the final is released you can unenroll from Insider Preview and update to the RTM. https://insider.windows.com/en-us/leave-program
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Sep 23, 2021 18:53
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Of course right after I posted yesterday that there were no builds in the Release Preview channel: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/16/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-194/
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Sep 24, 2021 17:42
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Hungry Computer posted:Of course right after I posted yesterday that there were no builds in the Release Preview channel: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/16/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-194/ Cheers, already flattened and installed it on my desktop. It keeps disabling different animations for some reason, a setting I think is synched from Windows 10 which always did it as well. I disabled settings sync - where can I delete any presence of it from the cloud?
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Sep 24, 2021 18:09
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Any word on when Android apps are going to be enabled?
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Sep 24, 2021 18:14
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Let me know when they unfuck the taskbar.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:42
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Let me know when they unfuck the taskbar. Welcome to Windows 12
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Sep 24, 2021 20:54
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I want them to do a Windows Classic, where it's basically Windows 95 but with a modern back-end. I am sad I cannot make Windows 10 look like it anymore. There is a charm to the crude appearance and big fat blocky icons and such.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:04
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Well, drat. My Ryzen 1700 doesn't meet the requirements for the pre-release. Weak. Edit: Both windows update and the health-check tool report the same thing, though the TPM thing is only yellow, the CPU is red. And I don't have a pressing need to update my hardware until GPUs get back to not-insane pricing, so I guess I'll stick to 10 for now. AlexDeGruven fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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Sep 24, 2021 23:05
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The health check app says I can fully run Windows 11 (which makes sense because my computer is really good) but when I try to install off a USB stick it says it's not compatible, any thoughts...?
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Sep 25, 2021 04:11
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Was just checking and my PC seems to pass, except for TPM. Have looked through the bios but couldnt find any options to enable it. I assume my prebuilt took a few shortcuts to save a few dollars.
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Sep 25, 2021 04:24
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OgNar posted:Was just checking and my PC seems to pass, except for TPM. Make sure you update to the latest BIOS, as well. My gigabyte board was on a 2017 release and the TPM menus were different after the 2020 update.
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Sep 25, 2021 13:34
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Hungry Computer posted:Of course right after I posted yesterday that there were no builds in the Release Preview channel: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/16/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-194/ I’ve been trying to download the beta channel iso from the link in the blog post for the past 2 days and keep getting an error. Is it working for anyone else?
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I want them to do a Windows Classic, where it's basically Windows 95 but with a modern back-end. I am sad I cannot make Windows 10 look like it anymore. There is a charm to the crude appearance and big fat blocky icons and such. You can change the icons back to old Windows 98 ones, right?
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