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Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he?
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Sep 24, 2021 19:38
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I think the biggest difference between Kirk and Joe is that Kirk has had the benefit of the Shanahan/Kubiak offensive system his whole career, and Joe had it for one glorious year in 2014. The rest of the time he had guys like Cam Cameron and Marc Trestman. In general the Flacco-era Ravens always seemed a little more than the sum of their parts, and the Kirk-era Vikings feel the opposite.
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Sep 24, 2021 19:58
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Sep 24, 2021 20:12
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OneMoreTime posted:Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he? No, people liked Joe Flacco.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:16
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gently caress's sake, did we really just spend 60-some posts arguing about Kirk Cousins?
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Sep 24, 2021 20:22
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OneMoreTime posted:Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he? No, because Joe Flacco is elite.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:24
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OneMoreTime posted:Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he? Flacco won a Super Bowl OP
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Sep 24, 2021 20:31
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Cousins is the reason I stopped being a Vikings fan after 20 years cause I just don't like the dude. To be fair it was more of a last straw situation I barely watched the Case year. SunshineDanceParty fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 24, 2021 |
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Sep 24, 2021 20:34
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Timby posted:gently caress's sake, did we really just spend 60-some posts arguing about Kirk Cousins? I mean Zim is on the hot seat gotta figure out who is at fault for it got dangit
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Sep 24, 2021 20:40
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Keenum would be cheaper and have that plucky underdog energy, plus he wouldn't choke in a game-winning drive. Kirk Cousins wishes he was Case Keenum.
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Sep 24, 2021 21:21
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Mega64 posted:Keenum would be cheaper and have that plucky underdog energy, plus he wouldn't choke in a game-winning drive. I think Case probably wishes he was making 30 million dollars a year.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:04
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OneMoreTime posted:Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he? No, Kirk and his fans suck and will never have a championship
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Sep 25, 2021 07:31
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These last few pages are going to be fun to look back on when the Vikings win it all this year and we all ponder the eternal question: is Kirk Cousins elite?
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Sep 25, 2021 10:06
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https://twitter.com/JayMorrisonATH/status/1440733778964463616 Why is Tomlin on this list lol
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Sep 25, 2021 15:24
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Why is Tomlin on this list lol Why would Vegas turn down free money
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Sep 25, 2021 15:25
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That would be very un-family of the Bengals
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Sep 25, 2021 15:40
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:https://twitter.com/JayMorrisonATH/status/1440733778964463616 Same idiots who think the Bengals are gonna pay a 2nd coach. Also how is Urban Meyer getting fired and not quitting?
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Sep 25, 2021 15:40
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:https://twitter.com/JayMorrisonATH/status/1440733778964463616 I'm shocked Judge and Zimmer are ahead of Nagy. He's getting eviscerated locally and doesn't really have a ton of national respect.
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Sep 25, 2021 16:10
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:
Yinzers hate Tomlin for ya know totally actually very good reasons.
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Sep 25, 2021 16:12
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:https://twitter.com/JayMorrisonATH/status/1440733778964463616 Odds exist to entice people to put money on the wrong things so the house makes money. Not completely and accurately show outcomes.
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Sep 25, 2021 16:17
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I do wonder about the market for CEO-type head coaches like Tomlin and Harbaugh who don't actually run one of the units.
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Sep 25, 2021 16:29
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Forrest on Fire posted:I'm shocked Judge and Zimmer are ahead of Nagy. He's getting eviscerated locally and doesn't really have a ton of national respect. Says more about Judge and Zimmer than it does anything in favor of Nagy, I think.
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Sep 25, 2021 16:41
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AndrewP posted:I do wonder about the market for CEO-type head coaches like Tomlin and Harbaugh who don't actually run one of the units. i wish nagy decided to be this, the players like him and play hard but the only time the offense looked remotely competent was when he let even a bad offensive coordinator call plays.
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Sep 25, 2021 17:01
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Forrest on Fire posted:I'm shocked Judge and Zimmer are ahead of Nagy. He's getting eviscerated locally and doesn't really have a ton of national respect. He as at least this season on account of Fields, probably
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Sep 25, 2021 17:10
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Bears FO has also repeatedly refused to say how long Nagy and Pace's current contracts are for
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Sep 25, 2021 18:21
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ghosthorse posted:Bears FO has also repeatedly refused to say how long Nagy and Pace's current contracts are for Conventional wisdom--and the Bears beat guys with both the Tribune and Sun-Times are convinced of this--is that the Bears quietly added a year to Pace's contract to align with Nagy's, which runs through 2022.
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Sep 25, 2021 19:30
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Regarding Joe Judge: I do not think he's a good coach so don't take this that way. But he has not had a fair shot, really. All he has done is paid for the sins of Gettleman and coaches before him. When the Giants fired Pat Shurmur but allowed that incompetent of a GM Gettleman to keep his job, this was literally the only possible outcome. NO ONE can take a downright terrible roster and make a championship team out of it. It just doesn't work like that, you need the players. The number of absolutely baffling decisions Gettleman has made as GM makes me think he has some dirt on the owner or something because he has been AWFUL. Not sure I can think of a worse GM over that period.Timby posted:Conventional wisdom--and the Bears beat guys with both the Tribune and Sun-Times are convinced of this--is that the Bears quietly added a year to Pace's contract to align with Nagy's, which runs through 2022. That would make a lot of sense, as would moving on from both of them after that, unless they do it after this year which I would also probably be fine with. Pace is kinda tough because he has NOT been awful. In fact I would call him one of the most consistently average GMs in the league. Plus he has gotten better over time, his huge mistakes were mostly early in his tenure but since then he has not been bad in terms of drafting, roster construction, or free agent signings. Nagy on the other hand seems to consistently get less out of his players than you would expect. Still, sometimes a clean slate is called for so I wouldn't be against letting them both go and starting fresh.
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Sep 25, 2021 21:06
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Arky’s furry cheerleader is rad
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Sep 25, 2021 23:34
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Play posted:Pace is kinda tough because he has NOT been awful. In fact I would call him one of the most consistently average GMs in the league. Plus he has gotten better over time, his huge mistakes were mostly early in his tenure but since then he has not been bad in terms of drafting, roster construction, or free agent signings. Is this stockholm syndrome or something? Pace has been pretty awful at both drafting and FAs. *gestures wildly at Jimmy Graham contract*
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Sep 26, 2021 01:33
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MrLogan posted:Is this stockholm syndrome or something? Pace has been pretty awful at both drafting and FAs. *gestures wildly at Jimmy Graham contract* Pace unearthed some pretty good players in the late rounds, but his mistakes making the worst draft pick of the 21st century and mismanaging the non-existent salary cap so badly that the bears are the only team that actually has to cut good players instead of just magically restructuring their contracts like every other team does and then letting the best wideout in franchise history go for nothing after this year makes it incomprehensible that this dude is still allowed to run a team. Great hair though.
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Sep 26, 2021 01:38
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you shouldn't be allowed to come back after mitch!!!!!
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Sep 26, 2021 01:42
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R.D. Mangles posted:you shouldn't be allowed to come back after mitch!!!!! You should have said that to Ryan Pace before he traded up!!!!
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Sep 26, 2021 01:46
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shirts and skins posted:You should have said that to Ryan Pace before he traded up!!!! It was too late, mitch had a bad car.
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Sep 26, 2021 01:47
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Mitch had kissed the titties. Pace was mesmerized
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Sep 26, 2021 01:47
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ryan pace imo is extremely bad and frankly it's astounding the roster is as competitive as it is
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Sep 26, 2021 01:48
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Pace is not bad. He is average. The problem is he swings big too much, so the highs are Fields and Mack, but the lows are Kevin White and Mitchell Trubisky. Honestly, I'm kinda okay with it, but only because we have Fields.
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Sep 26, 2021 03:36
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not to put too fine a point on it but you don’t know what you have in fields yet not calling him good or bad, just too soon to tell
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Sep 26, 2021 06:18
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a patagonian cavy posted:not to put too fine a point on it but you don’t know what you have in fields yet Oh I know. My point more is if Fields hits, everything is pretty much forgiven. You can't give blame without credit. And if he fails, he's done. We are gonna know by the end of the year, but this ride is just about done. Edit: But we already know Justin Fields is the greatest quarterback to have ever played the game.
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Sep 26, 2021 06:42
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OneMoreTime posted:Kirk Cousins is the new Joe Flacco isn't he? Maybe he's like a less drunk Jay Cutler? Kind of talented but also kind of blows?
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Sep 26, 2021 07:43
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Turns out Nagy is still a poo poo coach no matter who's at QB
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