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really enjoying the shock and horror on the hosts face when she realises that the US wouldnt necessarily end the world in response to a nuclear strike on australia, and the screams of denial
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Sep 25, 2021 17:49
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drop a time stamp I’m not watching a 60 minutes video of hysterical Australians to find the good part
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Sep 25, 2021 17:50
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so what's up with the Canadians, I'm gonna assume by 'hostages' and poo poo they mean 'they did some dumb finance crimes and are angry China held them to the laws'?
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Sep 25, 2021 17:51
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They are spies
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Sep 25, 2021 17:52
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paul_soccer12 posted:Send em back
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Sep 25, 2021 17:53
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sexpig by night posted:so what's up with the Canadians, I'm gonna assume by 'hostages' and poo poo they mean 'they did some dumb finance crimes and are angry China held them to the laws'? they didn’t hold them to the laws though
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Sep 25, 2021 17:53
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Fleetwood posted:"like a crazy man with an ax"???? Xi is going to bring back the Hatchet Gang, hell yeah hell yeah their theme song ruled
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Sep 25, 2021 17:55
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You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared
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Sep 25, 2021 18:03
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Grapplejack posted:You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared I think it’s possible/likely they were doing extremely low level spy work on the level of like “tell us the organizational structure of the SOE-led companies you were engaged with” but you’re probably right in the sense that we normally think about spies
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Sep 25, 2021 18:10
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indigi posted:drop a time stamp I’m not watching a 60 minutes video of hysterical Australians to find the good part
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Sep 25, 2021 18:30
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Agrajag posted:lmao looks like crypto nerds are losing their poo poo on reddit and theyre coming up with weird conspiracy theories
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Sep 25, 2021 18:35
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Grapplejack posted:You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared Yeah and I laugh every time I remember that. It was such a self own by CIA, just great stuff.
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Sep 25, 2021 19:25
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paul_soccer12 posted:They are spies
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Sep 25, 2021 19:30
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David Harvey bent the knee to Xi on his podcast this week
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Sep 25, 2021 20:06
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Grapplejack posted:You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared The killed spy (spies?) were Chinese national, and he was running. Captured spy exchange happen fairly frequently. Russia did it 2 years ago with Lithuania and 10 years ago with the US.
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Sep 25, 2021 20:24
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Centrist Committee posted:David Harvey bent the knee to Xi on his podcast this week more specifically, he admits his book, "Neoliberalism with Chinese Characteristics" was incorrect and Giovanni Arrighi's "Adam Smith in China" was a better take
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Sep 25, 2021 20:38
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Grapplejack posted:You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared And they also wouldn't have waited until the CFO of Huawei got tied up in extradition court to arrest them. China handed down a death sentence to a third Canadian at around the same time and no one cared because he seemed like a legit drug trafficker.
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Sep 25, 2021 20:58
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what does the drug trafficker have to do with anything, people are talking about spies
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Sep 25, 2021 21:17
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Sep 25, 2021 21:18
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that guy may be the dumbest motherfucker on these forums
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Sep 25, 2021 21:21
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Judakel posted:that guy may be the dumbest motherfucker on these forums Yep
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Sep 25, 2021 21:26
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Centrist Committee posted:more specifically, he admits his book, "Neoliberalism with Chinese Characteristics" was incorrect and Giovanni Arrighi's "Adam Smith in China" was a better take do you have a link to this? I remember that reading his Brief History of Neoliberalism back in like 2011 was what cemented my take on China for a good few years and I'd like to hear the man himself walking it back.
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Sep 25, 2021 21:39
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Centrist Committee posted:more specifically, he admits his book, "Neoliberalism with Chinese Characteristics" was incorrect and Giovanni Arrighi's "Adam Smith in China" was a better take Hasn't he been on that train for a while? He was praising China a couple of months ago. Dr. Wolff is also a big China guy now.
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Sep 25, 2021 21:40
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this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" https://twitter.com/china_takes/status/1441796646459691008
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Sep 25, 2021 21:42
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" The USS has always been good at projection.
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Sep 25, 2021 21:44
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" 
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Sep 25, 2021 21:46
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" what metrics do they use to determine that China is declining
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Sep 25, 2021 21:54
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the enemy is both powerful and weak
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Sep 25, 2021 21:57
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Rutibex posted:if you think two nuclear powers can just have a little conventional war as a treat you are wrong Sure they can. Nuclear exchanges aren't going to be triggered unless it's over something either party considers existential. The cost of the exchange has to be considered worth the price of preserving somebody's claim to something or other. In that case, China's claim to Taiwan is more of an existential issue to them than it is to us - but even then China would not bring the nukes out because they have the material advantage and would win. The US isn't going to just launch nukes because it feels humiliated, either. The most likely outcome is that there's not going to be a war at all, because the United States is too afraid of losing. OTOH, there could be a war because military planners or the White House want to use a loss as an excuse to either reform or supercharge the MIC.
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Sep 25, 2021 22:00
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-banning-crypto-transactions-great-news-for-bitcoin-investment-firm-ceo-210725512.htmlquote:China banning crypto transactions ‘great news for bitcoin’: Investment firm CEO
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Sep 25, 2021 22:16
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John Charity Spring posted:do you have a link to this? I remember that reading his Brief History of Neoliberalism back in like 2011 was what cemented my take on China for a good few years and I'd like to hear the man himself walking it back. https://anticapitalistchronicles.libsyn.com/whither-china but should also be available through whatever podcast app you use
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Sep 25, 2021 22:17
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Judakel posted:the enemy is both powerful and weak My first thought as well.
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Sep 25, 2021 22:18
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indigi posted:what metrics do they use to determine that China is declining The country's economy is projected to only grow by 8.1% this year, down from 8.4% in earlier projections. This means China is done, you see.
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Sep 25, 2021 22:20
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Kassad posted:The country's economy is projected to only grow by 8.1% this year, down from 8.4% in earlier projections. This means China is done, you see. Haha you see they beat the poo poo out of me .3 percent less than what I was expecting so if you think about it I'm winning.
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Sep 25, 2021 22:23
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indigi posted:what metrics do they use to determine that China is declining slowing economic growth, which is true of nearly every industrialized country?
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Sep 25, 2021 22:24
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Gordon Chang is 70 years old and people are going after his job.
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Sep 25, 2021 22:28
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Centrist Committee posted:https://anticapitalistchronicles.libsyn.com/whither-china Thanks, this was a really interesting listen. I really respect Harvey's openness about changing his mind and saying he was wrong in the past in this issue.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:01
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:this is a messaging shift because "china is strong and powerful" might lead some to think "let's not fight them but find a way to work things out." the propaganda line instead turns into "we have to fight china because they're weak and will lash out and strike us first" An enemy both all powerful and easily crushed you say? Edit: beaten, whatever
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Sep 25, 2021 23:11
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Sedisp posted:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-banning-crypto-transactions-great-news-for-bitcoin-investment-firm-ceo-210725512.html Literally the dril "It's not blood, it's victory wine!" tweet.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:14
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indigi posted:drop a time stamp I’m not watching a 60 minutes video of hysterical Australians to find the good part there's no one moment of the 60 minutes segment that can really be highlighted because the entire thing is completely deranged. Right down to 60 Minutes saying definitively that Taiwan has not been historically "part of China" because it has an indigenous population, only then to bring up later that Taiwan isn't even independent of China. They never even ask the question of what is Australia's actual interest in going to war with China, because it's such a foregone conclusion that Australia will do anything the United States tells it to.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:31
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