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Absurd Alhazred posted:
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dwarf74 posted:... At least these are mostly run of the mill financial crimes instead of sex-pest poo poo as far as we know? Based on my experience with a lot of middle-tier local cons, most of them are at some point in the chain that doesn't make it right or okay, mind you, just... unremarkable, lol.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:34
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
I don't think there's ever been a good Gygax.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:40
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I'm now hearing convention stories about "Turbo" from friends and basically... Everything in the complaint basically tracks. Stories of enforced downing of high-octane plum brandy, etc His company makes... Cutlery and drone automatic targeting stuff? wtf
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Sep 24, 2021 22:58
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dwarf74 posted:Oh man it's even worse! Nah, it’s a lead in to the next few paras which are about a discussion at that lunch.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:59
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Kalman posted:Nah, it’s a lead in to the next few paras which are about a discussion at that lunch. https://twitter.com/mikeselinker/status/1441452084482564100?s=19
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Sep 24, 2021 23:03
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So they had a raging bachelor party that segued directly into the wedding? Don't be such a baby.
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Sep 24, 2021 23:53
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LongDarkNight posted:So they had a raging bachelor party that segued directly into the wedding? Don't be such a baby. A weird renfaire wedding is fine. Forcing someone to attend it (in an important role, no less) under false pretenses is not fine.
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Sep 25, 2021 00:08
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EverettLO posted:My own memory of it is also almost two decades old but it was a Wick product through and through. It had some compelling ideas, such as community character generation and simply the idea of treating elves as being so magically powerful and long lived as to appear to mortal races like alien greys appear to modern people. They're Discworld elves with the serial numbers half-heartedly filed off. I think the most positive thing to be said about Orkworld is that it's an explicitly anti-colonial fantasy game, which was pretty unusual for the time of its release. The problem is that Runequest did it earlier and much, much better.
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Sep 25, 2021 01:50
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neongrey posted:Wick is really frustrating to me because I personally really like a combative/antagonistic style and for good reasons that's not exactly easy to track down. Wick as a designer really speaks to the sort of tension I like in play which is, yes, kind of dickish at best. Being an adversarial DM is fine. Wick is a lovely one because he thinks he's doing it because it's smart and obvious instead of just fun, and he's high on his own farts enough to just be constantly bragging about being adversarial in situations where it's really apparent that he held all the cards. He's basically a poo poo dm the same way most poo poo doms are poo poo.
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Sep 25, 2021 02:22
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theironjef posted:He's basically a poo poo dm the same way most poo poo doms are poo poo. Was that a typo because it works extremely well as is
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Sep 25, 2021 02:27
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Not a typo! lovely doms are always inordinately proud of abusing power imbalances and think they're doing something smart.
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Sep 25, 2021 02:28
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Also shared between lovely DMs and lovely doms: viewing the role as part of their identity, and one that indicates superior intelligence/personality, and not as a part picked up by mutual consent as part of an enjoyable activity.
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Sep 25, 2021 03:06
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God drat I hate that that's such a fantastic analogy.
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Sep 25, 2021 03:39
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I brought it up before on twitter but the "Happy Fun Ball" part of Play Dirty is extremely gross and absolutely reads like a dude (in this case not just a GM but someone's supervisor at work) making someone incredibly uncomfortable, giving them lovely nicknames, etc, while reveling in how awesome he is.
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Sep 25, 2021 03:45
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Kai Tave posted:I brought it up before on twitter but the "Happy Fun Ball" part of Play Dirty is extremely gross and absolutely reads like a dude (in this case not just a GM but someone's supervisor at work) making someone incredibly uncomfortable, giving them lovely nicknames, etc, while reveling in how awesome he is. So much of that advice is basically low-effort trolling: "I did the minimum amount of effort to provoke an emotional reaction! Truly, I am the king of manipulation." And it's like, yeah, that's impressive when you're a tiny baby who's figuring the world out, but when you're an adult it's like bragging that you managed to go potty without soiling your pullups in terms of impressive feats.
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Halloween Jack posted:It was very much both. Fantasy heartbreakers are games that are extremely derivative of D&D, but had really interesting ideas, and were doomed commercially because they came out too late (1990-2001) for that to be viable in the market.
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Sep 25, 2021 06:14
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theironjef posted:He's basically a poo poo dm the same way most poo poo doms are poo poo. The power dynamic in a d/s scene and between a GM and players is remarkably similar.
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Sep 25, 2021 08:27
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Kai Tave posted:I brought it up before on twitter but the "Happy Fun Ball" part of Play Dirty is extremely gross and absolutely reads like a dude (in this case not just a GM but someone's supervisor at work) making someone incredibly uncomfortable, giving them lovely nicknames, etc, while reveling in how awesome he is. To quote what a friend said after being shown some choice Play Dirty/Dirtier passages: quote:the tone of these articles is essentially "locker room talk", to borrow a term from scumbags everywhere; it's some absolute loving creep who either thinks you're an absolute loving creep too, or thinks you admire him for being an absolute loving creep, or thinks he has sufficient authority that you'll overlook him being an absolute loving creep, breathily describing the way young women react when he abuses them and then smirking like he expects applause potatocubed posted:The power dynamic in a d/s scene and between a GM and players is remarkably similar. There's a somewhat infamous experimental jeepform game (titled Gang Rape) that had as its thesis that the authority of a traditional GM lends itself to abuse of other people's (in)ability to consent.
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KingKalamari posted:Don't worry, I am... some "pagans" killed a farmer's goat in my old hometown in ontario and immediately were like 'UMMMM A VIDEO GAME MADE US DO IT" when they got arrested
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Sep 25, 2021 12:47
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potatocubed posted:The power dynamic in a d/s scene and between a GM and players is remarkably similar. It's not just that, the way that the culture of both communities is hell-bent on creating bad actors is incredibly similar too. We get poo poo DM advice from stains like Wick because there's a whole subsection of RPG thought dedicated to the belief that DMs are like gnomic mystery geniuses, their whims unchecked and their sympathies undeserved by the lowly player. Don't touch their pizza! Whole chapters in books about how they're allowed to literally punish you, another adult who is their friend, for poo poo that happens during a game session. "Lifelong DM" becomes almost a value signifier. Meanwhile you get the exact same worship of the worst qualities in the D/s community. Subs love hearing the hardline rhetoric because it's hot pillowtalk, doms need some way to impress other doms, and filter that through a few decades of books written about it and the general numbers (just like RPGs there's usually way more sub/players than dom/DMs) and you get a vast sea of fetlife assholes all "RACK ONLY, no limits, safety tools are for fake doms" all over. And adversarial DMing can easily just be a difficulty setting thing. There's more monsters or they're more powerful. The DCs are higher and ambushes and character death are on the table, that sort of thing. But you can do that sort of poo poo with a smile on your face and an encouraging word to your players. You can be adversarial AND a fan of your players. That's not what Wick sells though. He basically sells awful improv advice. When your players try something, hit 'em with a big old RP-killing "No you can't, because this is actually about me."
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theironjef posted:and you get a vast sea of fetlife assholes all "RACK ONLY, no limits, safety tools are for fake doms" all over. So this might be a trap sprung moment, but RACK is a safety tool in the kink community, it stands for "risk assessed consensual kink"
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https://yourdungeonisracist.blogspot.com/ At least it looks like he already got bored.
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theironjef posted:That's not what Wick sells though. He basically sells awful improv advice. When your players try something, hit 'em with a big old RP-killing "No you can't, because this is actually about me." One thing that struck me about Play Dirty 2 is that a lot of it is about him just asserting and maintaining control. I just gag when I think about how many times he talks about attacking the assumptions of the players as if it were just so clever. "You thought you were playing Star Trek? I blew up the Federation, it's Star Wars now!" "You thought you were going to fight orcs? No, they're the good guys, you're the bad guys, they trounce you and you have to beg for mercy." "You thought you were playing Changeling? Whups, I just made it a Pendragon game now." Which, you know, is fine when that kind of expectation is at least discussed and hinted at by a gamemaster before starting. But simply lying isn't exactly the master technique he thinks it is.
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Whybird posted:So this might be a trap sprung moment, but RACK is a safety tool in the kink community, it stands for "risk assessed consensual kink" Fair! I knew what it stood for, I was sort of using it as like the consent level one step more fraught than normal.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:03
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:https://yourdungeonisracist.blogspot.com/ It takes genuine time and effort to be even less funny than Your Dungeon Is Suck, so right now they're probably tossing around ideas on how apply Attack Helicopter jokes in an original way to medieval fantasy.
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Libertad! posted:It takes genuine time and effort to be even less funny than Your Dungeon Is Suck, so right now they're probably tossing around ideas on how apply Attack Helicopter jokes in an original way to medieval fantasy. Venger Satanis is one of the most naturally unfunny people I know, it's like he was grown in a lab somewhere.
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Sep 26, 2021 03:54
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Now this is what the tabletop community was sorely lacking: a right-wing comedy blog that ran out of material
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Ettin posted:Now this is what the tabletop community was sorely lacking: a right-wing comedy blog that ran out of material The fact that they wanted to do a "babylon bee" but...didn't actually do that, instead having no actual jokes is sad. This isn't hard. Like, you can slap together some lazy anti-SJW buzzword headlines, gently caress you can even rewrite Babylon Bee headlines. Actually I just spent a few minutes looking at them and I don't think I can. Most of the best tabletop political jokes are already out there, like the "Anti-Vaxxer spokesperson ascends to becoming a greater daemon of Nurgle" etc etc
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I think part of the problem is it's literally a niche of a niche. Gaming jokes can be corny and overly-inside enough but then you insist on it being only about making fun of liberal gamers, congrats, you not only have just the one joke but now nobody understands it either.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I think part of the problem is it's literally a niche of a niche. Gaming jokes can be corny and overly-inside enough but then you insist on it being only about making fun of liberal gamers, congrats, you not only have just the one joke but now nobody understands it either. Anyway, something actually industry related, it seems one of Games Workshop's NDAs leaked and oh boy, it's a doozy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUoGVa89JY4
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:https://yourdungeonisracist.blogspot.com/ Giving up after 3 days is hilariously low energy.
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I can't watch that where I am, but youtubers are like OAN or uncle at Nintendo tier reliable. Is there a written summary?
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Sep 26, 2021 12:34
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moths posted:I can't watch that where I am, but youtubers are like OAN or uncle at Nintendo tier reliable. Is there a written summary? Found this linked by a blogger. 
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There's some discussion on Twitter as to whether that is a contractor NDA or a streamer NDA. That does change the tone quite a bit (you'd expect some of those terms in a contractor NDA for someone actually doing long-term work inside the company).
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Kai Tave posted:Venger Satanis is one of the most naturally unfunny people I know, it's like he was grown in a lab somewhere. Maxwell Lord posted:I think part of the problem is it's literally a niche of a niche. Gaming jokes can be corny and overly-inside enough but then you insist on it being only about making fun of liberal gamers, congrats, you not only have just the one joke but now nobody understands it either. These are two halves of the same problem. A lot of authoritarian humour is about signalling loyalty; the "joke" comes from speaking about shared beliefs or mutually-understood statements that may remain entirely unspoken. You don't laugh at a joke, at a disconnect or irony. You laugh to signify you are part of the exclusive in-crowd and that the target is a joke. Play Dirty is a wonderful case in point. It's a list of anecdotes which all essentially say "look at me I am powerful and can hurt and violate my players; laugh along with me, fellow powerful people".
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Alien Rope Burn posted:They're Discworld elves with the serial numbers half-heartedly filed off. You mean the Orlanthi-Dara Happan conflict? I mean, its got plenty of well written detail but at the end of the day its the story of exceedingly Germano-Celtic Heroic Savages (who are also the protagonists of the setting) fighting off a decidedly less Euro-coded degenerate "civilised" Empire and its degenerate religion. It's only so many steps removed from 300 because it's ultimately the fantasy world a white guy in the 60s would come up with
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HopperUK posted:Found this linked by a blogger. Huh. Yeah that sure looks like an NDA alright. Is this like a death panels thing deliberately misinterpreting something innocuous for attention or did I miss something egregious on my phone read-thru?
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Kai Tave posted:Venger Satanis is one of the most naturally unfunny people I know, it's like he was grown in a lab somewhere. It was a small blessing that something like RPGgate never got off the ground for the sole fact the ones who would have been all up ons it are themselves talent-free charisma black holes.
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moths posted:Huh. Yeah that sure looks like an NDA alright. Can someone give the cliff's notes on how this one is unique and worthy of mention?
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