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Tagra posted:If they trace an outbreak back to her there better be attempted manslaughter charges. I dont think this is a thing. Like it could be a thing since regressives were not able to get immunity for their biz overlords wrt to covid stuff, but scummy lawyers had almost 2 years to get their prep work done and there's no tv or radio commercials saying "sue your boss or X for giving you covid."
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Platystemon posted:JFC the vaccine has not killed fifty thousand Americans. how many then? it's not zero and it's not like there's reliable data about that being recorded anywhere
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Tagra posted:If they trace an outbreak back to her there better be attempted manslaughter charges. https://twitter.com/nowtoronto/status/1441884841885245454 Yeah we have a hundred or so January 6th wannabes "invading" shopping malls for having pop up vaccine clinics in the heart of Toronto. Things are going great up here.
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Platystemon posted:JFC the vaccine has not killed fifty thousand Americans. 120k if we're going by doses. g0lbez posted:how many then? it's not zero and it's not like there's reliable data about that being recorded anywhere Lol, deaths following vaccination is one of the few things we do follow closely. Every death or serious adverse event following a vaccination is required to be reported to the CDC through their Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, and they request that all events temporally associated with vaccination be reported (not just those that the hcw thinks might be directly caused by the vax). As of September 20th, there were 7.9k reported deaths associated with COVID vaccination and nearly all of those will simply be coincidences rather than caused by the vaccine (because we vaccinated a shitload of people). The CDC, FDA, and pharmaceutical companies closely monitor VAERS to looks for adverse events that rise above the background level. That's what happened with the J&J and thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome. Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:A second flu has hit the ICU quote:If hospitalizations remain high over time, we have two basic options: to keep changing our behavior based on risk level, like we have been for the last year and a half, or to bolster hospital capacity. Emanuel gets it. Stickman fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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So per the cdc list of people eligible: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html When I go to underlying medical conditions: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html One condition they list: Overweight (defined as a body mass index (BMI) > 25 kg/m2 but < 30 kg/m2), obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2 but < 40 kg/m2), or severe obesity (BMI of ≥40 kg/m2), can make you more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19. The risk of severe COVID-19 illness increases sharply with elevated BMI. All I need to be is overweight and I qualify to get boosted?
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n8r posted:All I need to be is overweight and I qualify to get boosted? Yeah, but it’s a coin flip whether you get a pharmacist who is a dick and decides they know more than the CDC and that being overweight isn’t a good reason to get boosted, or whether you get a pharmacist who’s an angel and just wants to get shots in arms.
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Scaevolus posted:A less charitable analysis says "The FDA has been hard at work for decades ensuring people die or twist their lives into knots from a lack of access to medicine." Lol what is this conspiracy theory horseshit? WordPress blog eh? Great. After reading "there. is. a. war." for the third time in the first page I scanned down realized it was 500k words and tldr fuckman. Wendigee fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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Stickman posted:120k if we're going by doses. edit: misread stickman's post, my bad
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King Vidiot posted:I can't imagine what their motivation could be though. They're loving swimming in vaccine doses they can't even give away to dumbass chuds, so it's not a lack of supply. And we know they're not going to donate any or at least most of it to other countries. I reckon a big part of it will be how it is being perceived overseas. A lot of countries can’t get their hands on enough vaccine and the US declaring open slather on booster shots with marginal (compared to the initial vaccination) benefits might not be great for their reputation. With the geopolitical rivalry with China I think the image of the US abroad is something they’re taking reasonably seriously.
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gay picnic defence posted:I reckon a big part of it will be how it is being perceived overseas. A lot of countries can’t get their hands on enough vaccine and the US declaring open slather on booster shots with marginal (compared to the initial vaccination) benefits might not be great for their reputation. With the geopolitical rivalry with China I think the image of the US abroad is something they’re taking reasonably seriously. Dang. I was told that the FDA was free of political concerns.
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Japan is offering to gently caress me up on more vaccines in like december so yeah, keep sending em overseas, Alabama
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n8r posted:So per the cdc list of people eligible: I should meet criteria for various reasons, but since I got Moderna I'm sitting on my hands for now.
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g0lbez posted:how many then? it's not zero and it's not like there's reliable data about that being recorded anywhere It's incredibly rare, there's only a tiny number of confirmed cases. I posted a link to an article earlier in the thread about a handful of confirmed deaths in Norway. I think one of the big hangups around making this choice is that a lot of people are terrible at making personal risk analysis calculations, especially if they have to choose between "a lovely thing I have to do immediately which is proven to help avoid a significant future problem, but will suck and might even have adverse effects" and "just ignoring a problem which has a fairly high chance of loving me up really bad sometime in the future, but also might never happen if I'm lucky." It also really doesn't help that social media is full of people saying poo poo like "I got it and shook it off, it's just the flu", "I don't even need a vaccine, I have a strong immune system!", posting bullshit videos of people allegedly wracked with spasms after their shots, etc etc. And that's even before we get to shitlords like Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and Clive Palmer in Australia just straight out lying about vaccine deaths Edit: a further complication is that we've got people following the Great Barrington Declaration model of "learning to live with the virus" because "it's endemic now" who are really pushing the whole 'natural immunity' thing really hard, which leads to people doing incredibly dumb stuff like hosting Covid Parties instead of getting vaxxed Snowglobe of Doom posted:Remember all those jokes about people holding covid parties so they could 'strengthen' their 'natural immunity'? Welp Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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"Personal risk calculation" is the act of picking one media source to believe over another as part of the culture war in america. Like, I watch Fox news and I've calculated that masks aren't worth the risk, or I follow Eric Ding and I calculated that I need to order groceries online. It's not a calculation, it's telling someone that they're wrong because I can just feel it in my gut. The underlying mechanism is our relationship with a lovely media landscape replacing actual facts, which is fairness don't exist yet because a pandemic moves faster than consensus.
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Stuff like this sure doesn't help either: https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1441804956399378445 https://twitter.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1441821397995560964
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Another Bill posted:Yeah we have a hundred or so January 6th wannabes "invading" shopping malls for having pop up vaccine clinics in the heart of Toronto. Things are going great up here. They stormed a school in BC. Did we post this one here yet? https://www.thebeaverton.com/2021/09/bc-anti-vaxxers-excited-to-see-what-the-inside-of-a-school-looks-like/ The Beaverton has been knocking it out of the park this whole pandemic 
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Rescue Toaster posted:That lady is obviously a psychopath for wanting to go to a festival while covid positive. But also gently caress any event organizer that won't offer refunds these days to people who test positive. no, she's the new normal the "it's endemic" people are.
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Sep 26, 2021 17:47
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Stuff like this sure doesn't help either: Too many
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Remember all those jokes about people holding covid parties so they could 'strengthen' their 'natural immunity'? Welp This news story is pretty well done I gotta say. I think everyone would be much better off if their news sources was like this. Get out the facts, don't sensationalize. Get a doctor on talking about delta and why the goal post moved because of it on herd immunity. Show a dumb celebrity that chuds like who has changed their tune after clearing up the facts. Purgatory Glory fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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Purgatory Glory posted:This news story is pretty well done I gotta say. I think everyone would be much better off if their news sources was like this. Get out the facts, don't sensationalize. Get a doctor on talking about delta and why the goal post moved because of it on herd immunity. Show a dumb celebrity that chuds like who has changed their tune after clearing up the facts. Yeah Canadian news tends to be a lot less nuts than many places.
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Purgatory Glory posted:Those same people are also the same people who said: You missed two.
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Lovelyn posted:They just keep dying. Grim reading in C-SPAM
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Salt Fish posted:"Personal risk calculation" is the act of picking one media source to believe over another as part of the culture war in america. Like, I watch Fox news and I've calculated that masks aren't worth the risk, or I follow Eric Ding and I calculated that I need to order groceries online. I definitely agree with this, but another huge factor for a lot of people in this group is religion. For them, a gut feeling isn't just a gut feeling, it's a prompt from The Almighty, and how could you go against that?
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Today I learned that somewhere between 5 and 15% of people have a fear of needles. That's a shockingly high number. I suspect this has a lot to do with vaccine hesitancy; people often channel specific phobias into "reasoned" arguments that just so happen to support their fears.
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Make Measels and Mumps Great Again https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1441071490489856002?s=19
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ShadowHawk posted:Today I learned that somewhere between 5 and 15% of people have a fear of needles. That's a shockingly high number. I suspect this has a lot to do with vaccine hesitancy; people often channel specific phobias into "reasoned" arguments that just so happen to support their fears. I have a fear of needles but had work vaccine and blood testing mandates long before covid and you just kind of deal
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ShadowHawk posted:Today I learned that somewhere between 5 and 15% of people have a fear of needles. That's a shockingly high number. I suspect this has a lot to do with vaccine hesitancy; people often channel specific phobias into "reasoned" arguments that just so happen to support their fears. It's way, way higher than that.
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I had needle phobia well into adulthood, and I tried to swing a rotating fan at a nurse for a heb b shot when I was 11. But I was a super sick kid and developed that phobia due to the near constant blood draws, immunizations, and boosters I had to endure as a kiddo. But I moved to injectable estrogen early in my HRT and poking myself once a week is nothing to me now. I feel like every flu shot i've ever had, and my covid shot, were both like jabbed into the muscle in a way that was pointlessly painful and I can see it ramping up people's needle phobia to think about that sort of thing.
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Pinecone Sample posted:https://twitter.com/steinkobbe/status/1442272859347308545 sometimes they recover. sometimes they 'recover' then suddenly collapse and are dead in a few days.
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Riot Bimbo posted:I feel like every flu shot i've ever had, and my covid shot, were both like jabbed into the muscle in a way that was pointlessly painful and I can see it ramping up people's needle phobia to think about that sort of thing. I think it's bc with vaccinations your body reacts like hell to the vaccine itself, too, bc of how immune responses work, so you tend to get a lot of injection site soreness.
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poll plane variant posted:I think it's bc with vaccinations your body reacts like hell to the vaccine itself, too, bc of how immune responses work, so you tend to get a lot of injection site soreness. No, with intramuscular shots, it's primarily a matter of how fast they push, it's a little bit precision and angle, I think, too. You can help yourself to some extent by being fully relaxed and letting the socket support the weight of your arm, not any muscle. My first shot, they didn't even tell me it was going in, and it felt like a torn rotator cuff for two days. Second shot, I was ready for it, and had no pain. I had a conversation about this with a doctor recently, who said something to the effect of, "of course it's easy to do it right, but guess who never got graded on their bedside manner?" Flu shot at a chain pharmacy, I could feel how hard the tech was pushing and I knew it was going to be a pain for a few days.
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Pinecone Sample posted:I had a conversation about this with a doctor recently, who said something to the effect of, "of course it's easy to do it right, but guess who never got graded on their bedside manner?" We should have dentists give shots because at least for them it sometimes helps to be gentle and get repeat customers. That’s never a concern for pharmacists or nurses.
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