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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Welcome back. return wasn't official until i found the old av.
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Sep 27, 2021 13:25
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https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1442402720510586881?s=19 ngl, if this is real it actually sucks poo poo that said, seeing as this isn't from a Chinese source, I am very much taking this with a grain of salt, but be prepared for folks to attack China based on their reported restrictions on abortion in the coming days
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Sep 27, 2021 13:51
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Venomous posted:be prepared for folks to attack China based on their reported restrictions on abortion in the coming days https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/1433521911607214086
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Sep 27, 2021 13:55
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Jesus was this a case of the books still having old rear end laws while the states/prefectures had more sensible ones and no one bothered updating the old ones?
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Sep 27, 2021 13:59
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Al-Saqr posted:Seeing American/Australian/UK media really hyping up a cold war and going full blast against china really underscores how actually dangerous anglo-saxon countries are, that you can essentially do nothing to them, you can play by their rules, but they will always somehow come up with ghost stories and work themselves up into a frenzy to attack you based off of something they made up in their own heads and when they do attack you they've already established a narrative of self defense on it based on nothing. it happens every loving time in history. no actually, as two hundred posters who just crawled out of the woodwork reminded us, there’s so many crazy ex generals or whatever you can just relax and assume everything’s fine and that’s note indicative of anything
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Sep 27, 2021 14:01
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I'm not a fan of that particular read because it implies that Tibet was filled with backwards people who needed the PRC to modernize them, and part of the fallout from how Tibet was annexed is why there is still disgruntlement in the province.R. Guyovich posted:mostly correct but it ignores the ideological underpinnings of these policy moves, which most western observers do, even the ones sympathetic to the prc. Welcome back old man gradenko_2000 posted:
When I was younger I read Red Rabbit and it was so stupid and boring it took me a solid 8 years before I started reading for pleasure again
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Sep 27, 2021 14:08
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Venomous posted:that said, seeing as this isn't from a Chinese source, I am very much taking this with a grain of salt, but be prepared for folks to attack China based on their reported restrictions on abortion in the coming days not really much to go on aside from some broad and unspecified mention of new policies, not exactly 'get raped and carry uncle jim's baby to term' here
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Sep 27, 2021 14:13
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Venomous posted:https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1442402720510586881?s=19 Wow imagine a country restricting abortion like this!!! As an American I am outraged!! How c- wait I'm getting a message
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Sep 27, 2021 14:19
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Office Pig posted:not really much to go on aside from some broad and unspecified mention of new policies, not exactly 'get raped and carry uncle jim's baby to term' here one bad thing that’s new as of last year iirc, if a married woman wants an abortion she now has to get her husband’s permission. you didn’t used to need that alongside that they’ve made it significantly harder to actually get divorced
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Sep 27, 2021 14:20
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Jesus was this a case of the books still having old rear end laws while the states/prefectures had more sensible ones and no one bothered updating the old ones? Yes, the national level laws were outdated and nobody bothered to go back and update them. A lot of our legal/civil code is still based on carried-over Spanish law, as well as American law from the Commonwealth/colonial period, that's just been amended over and over. Or in this case, it hasn't yet. And this is NOT a case of local governments having more sensible ones, because there is no applicable lower-level jurisdiction as with American states or what-have-you.
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Sep 27, 2021 14:25
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fart simpson posted:one bad thing that’s new as of last year iirc, if a married woman wants an abortion she now has to get her husband’s permission. you didn’t used to need that eugh, can't say that really leaves me with room for optimism, hopefully it's more fringe stuff like sex-selective abortions but i'm not going to hedge on it
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Sep 27, 2021 14:28
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Grapplejack posted:You know if the Michaels were actually spies they would have just been killed, right? China killed a bunch of US spies in the 2010s and no one cared they didn't kill them because they wanted Meng back
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Sep 27, 2021 14:30
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Office Pig posted:eugh, can't say that really leaves me with room for optimism, hopefully it's more fringe stuff like sex-selective abortions but i'm not going to hedge on it well it's been illegal for a long time in china for the doctor to tell you the sex of your unborn baby, for exactly that reason
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Sep 27, 2021 14:32
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Sure they can. neither China or the USA has a population that would tolerate the humiliation of just straight up losing a conventional war. war isn't just about the people at the top making grand strategies
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Sep 27, 2021 14:35
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Rutibex posted:neither China or the USA has a population that would tolerate the humiliation of just straight up losing a conventional war. war isn't just about the people at the top making grand strategies What the public is willing to "tolerate" doesn't really matter. The question is what the reaction will be. The most likely reaction is a build up to try and do it again, only "we'll win this time."
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Sep 27, 2021 14:41
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fart simpson posted:well it's been illegal for a long time in china for the doctor to tell you the sex of your unborn baby, for exactly that reason i haven't the foggiest how much practice it enjoys now or if those numbers are even available. it'd be kind of unnerving to think people would power through the threat of government penalties just to terminate a female fetus, but it's not like dumber poo poo hasn't been on the radar 24/7 lately
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Sep 27, 2021 14:43
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if thats the case then why didnt america and the USSR directly fight each other in places like Cuba and Vietnam or Afghanistan if those arent 'existential' issues. there's a reason why world superpowers havent fought each other yet and the reason is Nukes.
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Sep 27, 2021 14:45
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if you really want to play with hypotheticals you might wonder if other existential pressures wouldn't push the great powers of the globe to engage in more hazardous and confrontational behaviors with one another, pursuits driven by necessity as opposed to ambition, control or ideological containment personally i think this insane but it's not always a game of sanity
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Sep 27, 2021 14:49
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Al-Saqr posted:if thats the case then why didnt america and the USSR directly fight each other in places like Cuba and Vietnam or Afghanistan if those arent 'existential' issues. there's a reason why world superpowers havent fought each other yet and the reason is Nukes. They weren't existential issues. The closest it ever got was the Cuban Missile Crisis, but Kruschev blinked and made a deal. Imperial contests in far flung former colonies aren't remotely on the same level as an existential interest, no matter what the rhetoric claims.
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Sep 27, 2021 14:55
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Xi best not wake the sleeping giant.
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Sep 27, 2021 15:05
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sober up dogboy 
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Sep 27, 2021 15:06
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Office Pig posted:eugh, can't say that really leaves me with room for optimism, hopefully it's more fringe stuff like sex-selective abortions but i'm not going to hedge on it Sex selection abortion has been outlawed since the start of one-child policy. You would have to bribe your doctor a lot of money to find out the sex of your unborn baby.
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Sep 27, 2021 15:08
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When I was a kid they used to say that they would have a bucket of water next to beds when chinese women gave birth and if it was a girl they would drown her in it pretty sure I got that from some fundies though
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Sep 27, 2021 15:10
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Feldegast42 posted:When I was a kid they used to say that they would have a bucket of water next to beds when chinese women gave birth and if it was a girl they would drown her in it I read on one of the book about India, in one of the hospital, record showed the sex of the aborted children in a x year period was 1 male baby vs like 1 thousand plus female baby. Can't remember which recent India book, could have been "The Billionaire Raj"
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Sep 27, 2021 15:18
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R. Guyovich posted:return wasn't official until i found the old av. wonderign how long youll get to keep it
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Sep 27, 2021 15:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od6Js490cWI
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Sep 27, 2021 15:37
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Al-Saqr posted:Seeing American/Australian/UK media really hyping up a cold war and going full blast against china really underscores how actually dangerous anglo-saxon countries are, that you can essentially do nothing to them, you can play by their rules, but they will always somehow come up with ghost stories and work themselves up into a frenzy to attack you based off of something they made up in their own heads and when they do attack you they've already established a narrative of self defense on it based on nothing. it happens every loving time in history. Them + Israel are easily the most dangerous and thus worst countries in the world. Just can't stop themselves from being violent against others for no goddamn reason.* *except actually the reason is because it'll make them (aka those running those countries) money. Which is somehow worse.
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Sep 27, 2021 16:14
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fart simpson posted:one bad thing that’s new as of last year iirc, if a married woman wants an abortion she now has to get her husband’s permission. you didn’t used to need that chairman Xi please stop being a dickhead thank you.
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Sep 27, 2021 16:28
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yes, the national level laws were outdated and nobody bothered to go back and update them. A lot of our legal/civil code is still based on carried-over Spanish law, as well as American law from the Commonwealth/colonial period, that's just been amended over and over. Ok, thats what I though. I have experience with bullshit laws from colonial times still being in books for some loving reason.
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Sep 27, 2021 17:22
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Ok, thats what I though. I have experience with bullshit laws from colonial times still being in books for some loving reason. The other thing with Philippine law is that during the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos Sr., there were a number of years in the 70s and 80s when he was issuing laws by decree. No legislation. Even after he was ousted, and even after we'd transitioned to a new constitution, the government was still respecting the decrees he issued with the force of law. A couple of instances where this has real-world repercussions is that, for example, the coal industry here basically isn't taxed at all because he awarded control to a crony and then issued a decree exempting them from taxes so they'd get to keep all the earning. Or that it's illegal to give alms to the poor.
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Sep 27, 2021 17:44
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lmao isn’t the Phillipines very Catholic
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Sep 27, 2021 17:50
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indigi posted:lmao isn’t the Phillipines very Catholic Possibly more Catholic than Vatican City, yes.
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Sep 27, 2021 17:56
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its really hard to opine on chinese policies regarding births and abortions because its really just a very different and foreign situation to what exists in the west, particularly america. mostly it seems to me like they're trying things that have to do with the unique problems, especially the unintended effects of the decades of two child limits, that are being faced right now. doesn't mean dumbuck liberals mad about abortions or no abortions wont be screechy and racist about it, sadly.
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Sep 27, 2021 18:37
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i say swears online posted:has anyone asked how gradenko can read eighteen books a week with full highlights and annotation grandenko is literally the CIA employing 80 staffers to read and post
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Sep 27, 2021 18:41
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grandenko can I have a job
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Sep 27, 2021 18:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:The other thing with Philippine law is that during the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos Sr., there were a number of years in the 70s and 80s when he was issuing laws by decree. No legislation. is there still a panic over mini food pantries being a communist plot
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Sep 27, 2021 18:45
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is caixin global worth a discounted subscription? I read them quite a bit at the start of the pandemic. How is their coverage on other matters these days?
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Sep 27, 2021 19:39
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Venomous posted:https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1442402720510586881?s=19 https://twitter.com/ChinaLawTransl8/status/1442551422550044681 Sigh, same poo poo as the "sissy boys" articles.
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Sep 27, 2021 19:56
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Not So Fast posted:https://twitter.com/ChinaLawTransl8/status/1442551422550044681 this doesn’t really tell us anything new tbh, by what methods are they seeking to reduce them?
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Sep 27, 2021 19:59
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I am not that surprised about increase emphasis on pronatalism and a diminishing of reproductive rights not only in China (it whatever capacity it turns out to be) but also the US and potentially Europe as well (Russia also put some restrictions on abortion several years ago). Birth rates are falling pretty much across the board at the moment and one of the new fronts in the second cold war is literally trying every way possible to create more workers/consumers. It is pretty dire across the board. The actual battle at the moment is economic and who can push their economy faster (and trade routes are apart of that.)
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