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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


punishedkissinger posted:

then what is the pattern buffer?

The pattern buffer is a fusion reactor. The charged particles are stored in it, but not digitally. They squirt the pattern in there with some fuel and the fusion process keeps the pattern energy levels high.

Gutcruncher posted:

When Picard turned into a space cloud they used the captain’s saved pattern from his last transport to make a new captain.

Look I'm just reading from the technical manual, which is more than I can say for some of the writers.

mudskipp posted:

I was gonna say "would you guys want to be transported?"

But the better question is

"Would you eat a replicated version of yourself?"

Hell yea i'd be transported. It works great the vast majority of the time.

And no, I still wouldn't eat replicated human tissue. Prions are still a thing.

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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
if they could re-age picard with the transporter they could remove the prions from transporter clone meat.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I would eat myself if I were cellular peptide cake with mint frosting

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

if they could re-age picard with the transporter they could remove the prions from transporter clone meat.

Yep, these TNG days Kuru is the name of a Klingon merchant

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

GolfHole posted:

MILES "REAL PLAYER" OBRIEN

Goerdie “QuickTime” LaForge

mudskipp posted:

I was gonna say "would you guys want to be transported?"

But the better question is

"Would you eat a replicated version of yourself?"

They can store the data of the pattern. Dr. Pulaski got one of those rapid again diseases and they compared her dna from her hair follicles and cured the old away.

Which begs the question, why do Starfleet officers gain weight when you can just compare the pattern and uh, “redistribute” the excess to the mass replicator cache.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

Automatic Slim posted:

Which begs the question, why do Starfleet officers gain weight when you can just compare the pattern and uh, “redistribute” the excess to the mass replicator cache.

please do not shame worf's dad

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Automatic Slim posted:

Goerdie “QuickTime” LaForge
Which begs the question, why do Starfleet officers gain weight when you can just compare the pattern and uh, “redistribute” the excess to the mass replicator cache.

With how advanced Starfleets science is there should be like dozens of ways to get people to a healthy weight trivially. So I guess if someone in starfleet is carrying a few extra ponds it's because they want to?

Should be plenty of ways to counter any negative healthy related issues, so at that point it's pretty much an aesthetic choice.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Sep 28, 2021

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
you can change replicator food to have any nutritional value you want. calorie counting always works if a person follows it well enough, and on starships the computer will do it for you without requiring any effort or lifestyle changes.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

you can change replicator food to have any nutritional value you want. calorie counting always works if a person follows it well enough, and on starships the computer will do it for you without requiring any effort or lifestyle changes.

Chief O'Brien, we are going to need you to adjust these drat Cardassian replicators again. Jake has gotten extremely fat over the summer.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know
I appreciate that Orville doesn't have a transporter and uses shuttlecraft instead.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

dr_rat posted:

With how advanced Starfleets science is there should be like dozens of ways to get people to a healthy weight trivially. So I guess if someone in starfleet is carrying a few extra ponds it's because they want to?

Should be plenty of ways to counter any negative healthy related issues, so at that point it's pretty much an aesthetic choice.

Yes, yes, every one has a healthy body image in the 24th century. Society is accepting but technology and science will allow more ways to circumvent the issue before people have to start pretending to be smugly non-judgemental. I would gladly spend my transporter rations to get rid of a tenacious 10lbs. and redistribute it for any part of society in need, in the name of Space Socialism.

Automatic Slim fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 28, 2021

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




That must be why TNG made all the female actors stuff their bras. In the shiny space communist future a flawless boob job is a 10 minute outpatient procedure so there is no excuse for everyone to not be rocking huge knockers.

Bald men? Oh, sure, we could cure that but everyone has moved past such petty concerns.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

uh i believe augments are illegal in the federation

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Mulaney Power Move posted:

uh i believe augments are illegal in the federation

It falls within the same legal area as picards robot heart. Fixing a defect.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Speaking of which, I've noticed between Lower Decks' Rutherford and Discovery's who-sa-ma-what and what's-er-face-there that there seems to suddenly be a LOT of cybernetically altered humanoids in Starfleet, which... wasn't really a thing in Starfleet before, in my mind? There's seemingly suddenly cyborgs aplenty!

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Gutcruncher posted:

It falls within the same legal area as picards robot heart. Fixing a defect.

Variable length/girth dongs are not augments, they are a pillar of the federation's appeal to new species.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

Collateral posted:

Variable length/girth dongs are not augments, they are a pillar of the federation's appeal to new species.

Dong, initiate fuckpattern Riker Theta

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Brawnfire posted:

Speaking of which, I've noticed between Lower Decks' Rutherford and Discovery's who-sa-ma-what and what's-er-face-there that there seems to suddenly be a LOT of cybernetically altered humanoids in Starfleet, which... wasn't really a thing in Starfleet before, in my mind? There's seemingly suddenly cyborgs aplenty!

Geordie was a cyborg. Also there was that guy in starfleet command when the whale probe showed up. I want to say there's some other examples that haven't been mentioned but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Brawnfire posted:

Speaking of which, I've noticed between Lower Decks' Rutherford and Discovery's who-sa-ma-what and what's-er-face-there that there seems to suddenly be a LOT of cybernetically altered humanoids in Starfleet, which... wasn't really a thing in Starfleet before, in my mind? There's seemingly suddenly cyborgs aplenty!

I mean going by the broadest definition, Picard was a cyborg with his heart. Geordi too. I’m assuming tech integration with the human body got a lot more subtle by the time of TNG, making Disco’s mech people look barbaric in comparison.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

dr_rat posted:

Lot of words just to say leprechaun magic

This is why someone has to be standing in the transporter room pressing the buttons on the console themselves rather than just having the computer do it. They cloak it in a lot of techno mumbo jumbo, but really the officer's duty is to trade one day of their life to the leprechaun hidden in the console in exchange for the magic.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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CainFortea posted:

Geordie was a cyborg. Also there was that guy in starfleet command when the whale probe showed up. I want to say there's some other examples that haven't been mentioned but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

I guess I think of Geordi's thing as more of like, smart glasses with a brain connection but you're right, the little blinky temple bits are clearly cybernetic wotsits.

And I guess there was a whole-rear end Cybernetics lab on the D, that can't have been solely to study aliens.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
O'Brien's "transporter smirk" on TNG was the best. You knew he was always loving around with the senior crew during beamings.

-random person gets a few mg of Riker's poo poo (straight from his intestines) on their tongue during re-materialization.

-Resetting Picard's camel toe (why he is always tugging on his uniform)

-Wesley's vocal cords are reverted back to an earlier state so he keeps getting awkward voice cracking.

-Cranks the matter gain from min to max and back again several times whenever Barclay's being transported so it feels like he's being stretched and turned inside out. Or triggering his fight or flight reflex by messing with his brain.

-Resetting Troi's eyebrows to "random".

-Replacing Data's components with cheap knockoff parts.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
I’m gonna run your pattern through this sweet delay pedal

*TMP transporter accident screams*

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

Heroes and Demons was a pretty fun episode. At the end when Janeway is reassuring the doctor that this was a real exchange between two different cultures it just "happened in an unpredictable way" did make me laugh since there's at least two other trek episodes with nearly this exact premise.

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow
For the life of me I cannot fathom how anybody involved in the production today this show thought, hey, yeah, Naked Now went really well. Ok next let’s do code of honor

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal

Bismack Billabongo posted:

For the life of me I cannot fathom how anybody involved in the production today this show thought, hey, yeah, Naked Now went really well. Ok next let’s do code of honor

I’m pretty sure everyone involved with production at the time was only thinking “AHHHHHHH :kingsley:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

punishedkissinger posted:

Heroes and Demons was a pretty fun episode. At the end when Janeway is reassuring the doctor that this was a real exchange between two different cultures it just "happened in an unpredictable way" did make me laugh since there's at least two other trek episodes with nearly this exact premise.

Wait til you get to the Voyager episodes that rip off earlier Voyager episodes.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Weren’t there two separate episodes about someone having implanted flashbacks to an alien Holocaust?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Bismack Billabongo posted:

For the life of me I cannot fathom how anybody involved in the production today this show thought, hey, yeah, Naked Now went really well. Ok next let’s do code of honor

I'm sure they didn't, but there was some coked up producer on set screaming at everyone about how they had perfectly good scripts from 10 years ago and gently caress no they're not sending them back for re-writes just say the loving lines

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The naked now is credited to a pseudonym because they hosed the story so hard in rewrites (gene demands more sex!) DC Fontana demanded her name be taken off it. And they literally fired the director of Code of Honor halfway filming through after they went "oh poo poo he cast all of the aliens as African oh poo poo" but back in the 80s 'it's going to be incredibly racist' wasn't enough to get the studio to let you scrap and restart filming I mean think of the money!

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

MikeJF posted:

The naked now is credited to a pseudonym because they hosed the story so hard in rewrites (gene demands more sex!) DC Fontana demanded her name be taken off it. And they literally fired the director of Code of Honor halfway filming through after they went "oh poo poo he cast all of the aliens as African oh poo poo" but back in the 80s 'it's going to be incredibly racist' wasn't enough to get the studio to let you scrap and restart filming I mean think of the money!

Code of Honor being made in the 1980s is somewhat expected.

The SG-1 retread of the same god drat script but with Asians instead of Africans is :psyduck:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

mycomancy posted:

Code of Honor being made in the 1980s is somewhat expected.

The SG-1 retread of the same god drat script but with Asians instead of Africans is :psyduck:.

Same writer, wasn't it?

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Same writer, wasn't it?

Yep. loving blows my mind they got away with that in 1997.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


mycomancy posted:

Yep. loving blows my mind they got away with that in 1997.

I'm guessing they tried to redo it because the TNG version hosed it over so bad. Then they got hosed again.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




A paternalistic society with matrilineal inheritance. There's a nugget of an interesting cultural anthropology thing there. They just aren't able to tell a story with that quirk without showing their whole rear end.

sweet geek swag
Mar 29, 2006

Adjust lasers to FUN!





Maybe, just maybe, if you're going to try and tell that story, you shouldn't cast a homogenous group of racial minorities as your antagonists. Both TNG and SG-1 did this, and it boggles the mind.

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
IIRC the Ligonians were supposed to be lizard people

Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


Boimler trying to 100% speedrun the Borg encounter was good poo poo

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Minutes away from voyager and enterprise going off netflix and the last enterprise episode I'm going to watch the the ferengi one.

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Endless Trash
Aug 12, 2007


drilldo squirt posted:

Minutes away from voyager and enterprise going off netflix and the last enterprise episode I'm going to watch the the ferengi one.

I started The Devil in the Dark twenty minutes before midnight and it’s still going. Basically I’m illegally watching a Horta melt some fuckers.

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