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murphyslaw posted:Just came home from my second viewing of DUNC Is the greater universe mentioned at all, or is it essentially just Paul's story? Did CHOAM, Landsraad, Orange Catholic Bible, Butlerian Jihad, Prana-Bindu, Spacing Guild, ETC. Are some things just offhandedly mentioned, or is the universe really fleshed out?
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I think a lot of you are excessively negative in the lynch dune movie . That poo poo came out in 1984
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euphronius posted:I think a lot of you are excessively negative in the lynch dune movie . That poo poo came out in 1984 What does that have to do with anything? Nobody is making GBS threads on it for not looking like a Marvel movie or something.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:26
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2001 came out in 1968.  Actually though. This makes me think a Kubrick Dune in that same style would've been god drat amazing; 'Also sprach Zarathustra'* is a sandworm song if there ever was one *Just looked this up and it's actually the fanfare 'Sunrise', but whatever Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Sep 28, 2021 |
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Sep 28, 2021 01:48
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stratdax posted:Is the greater universe mentioned at all, or is it essentially just Paul's story? Did CHOAM, Landsraad, Orange Catholic Bible, Butlerian Jihad, Prana-Bindu, Spacing Guild, ETC. Are some things just offhandedly mentioned, or is the universe really fleshed out? spoiled answer from someone else: it's mostly in little visual nods and passing mentions. You see, I think, Gurney, reading a tiny book implied to be religious in nature, and by behavior you can intuit it's the OC Bible. The guild is shown, and discussed a bit. From memory, butlerian jihad stuff is nearly absent, aside from the fact you never see things you would associate with computerized technology. Landsraad is mentioned, if not by name, in concept. Prana-bindu is referenced at least once, but not by name iirc. Most of the things are nods, but they're integrated into the story in such a way that it feels like a fairly alien, lived-in universe. Assume a lot of flavor stuff is in; just not mentioned specifically by name very often, and expository dialogue is generally sparse. "Show don't tell" is pretty overtly and effectively observed.
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Sep 28, 2021 02:38
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lmao https://twitter.com/CMValrak/status/1442515508335579155
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Sep 28, 2021 15:43
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That's a decent troll. I like the touch of saying God Emperor was mentioned in a movie where the God Emperor doesnt exist.
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Sep 28, 2021 16:00
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Lol everybody knows WH40K was inspired by Starcraft
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kiimo posted:A can of non-dolphin-safe tuna 
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Sep 28, 2021 16:05
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I was today years old when I found out Dune ripped-off Star Wars. We did it reddit
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Sep 28, 2021 16:06
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IMO the best version of the audiobook if you can find it, is an older version that is also narrated by scott brick but doesn't have a cast of voice actors doing the dialog.
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Sep 28, 2021 18:10
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The Scott Brick solo version is probably my favorite too and certainly the one I'm most accustomed to, but there's an even older version read by George Guidall that's also good - he has a very pleasant voice - but has some weird pronunciation of words like 'Fedaykin'. There's yet another version read by a guy named J.P. Linton that I couldn't stand at all. He sounded like the kind of narrator who should read the kind of books you buy at the airport. Both of these can be found on the audiobookbay if you're not averse to 
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Sep 28, 2021 18:27
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Sep 28, 2021 19:02
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I can't stand Scott Brick after listening to him read Jurassic park. He plays Ian Malcolm as such a smarmy douche that I can't picture anything else when I hear him. So great job I guess?
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Sep 28, 2021 19:48
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You haven't lived until you've experienced the really old Books on Tape version of Dune, narrated by Connor O'Brian and his whiny old lady voice. Sadly, I can't find any examples of this abomination, it's almost as if it's been scrubbed from the internet.
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Sep 28, 2021 21:09
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My PIN is 4826 posted:You haven't lived until you've experienced the really old Books on Tape version of Dune, narrated by Connor O'Brian Dune narrated by Conner O'Malley
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James McAvoy on advice for his Dune "dad" Timothy Chalamet: "I was in an adaptation of the second and third books. He is in the first book. And he's playing a character who ultimately becomes my father, in terms of the character dialogue. So, no. I've got no advice for him. And he doesn't need any advice from me, he's a cracking actor. But I'll tell you what's one really good piece of advice that was given to me once, was by the cast of ... what was the show called again? Farscape. And it was at the L.A. premiere of Children of Dune, and they said to me, that the thing with this sh*t, i.e. science fiction, is that you have to believe it more than you believe good writing. Good writing, you can just do. It's easier. But this stuff is hard, because it's so bonkers, you know what I mean? And I've really, I've always remembered that advice and taken it to heart. It's so kept me going really, through a lot of science fiction and fantasy work that I've done. Because it was Claudia Black that said it. And I think that's just good advice for any actor doing any kind of science fiction and/or fantasy, you know?"
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ChairmanMauzer posted:James McAvoy on advice for his Dune "dad" Timothy Chalamet: You know, science fiction, as opposed to good writing
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Sep 28, 2021 23:04
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Would really like to watch Miniseries of Dune with the cast of Farscape tbqh
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ChairmanMauzer posted:James McAvoy on advice for his Dune "dad" Timothy Chalamet: get hosed james
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Sep 29, 2021 00:03
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Sekenr posted:Adventures of Cybertrex 5000 Do Cybertrexis dream of Cyber T Rex's?
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Sep 29, 2021 01:03
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:get hosed james Merry Christmas, Beanpole Peckereood, james macavoy got u the truth
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Sep 29, 2021 01:56
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Jewmanji posted:I've been reading a lot of Dune, and a lot *about* Dune in the last few years, and just ran across this. It's incredibly good at situating Dune in its political/cultural context and explaining a bit about Herbert's unorthodox political sensibilities. I highly recommend it. Which one of you quote:Fans seeking to navigate the Duniverse have taken to the message boards, where “Orthodox Herbertarians” fend off broad-church interpretations (“You can argue all you want, the facts are there. Even if it’s 80% sure that DandM are FDs, making them ‘prostitute robots from the future’ would only…”).
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Sep 29, 2021 02:03
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euphronius posted:It’s sad that Herbert would be an anti vax MAGA chud today Frank Herbert grew up on the political fringe. His grandparents were members of the Social Democracy of America — an ancestor of today’s Democratic Socialists of America — and helped found a socialist commune in Washington State, north of Tacoma. That’s where his father was raised, and it’s where Herbert spent many of his young years. Though the formal experiment in socialism died a few years before his birth in 1920, Herbert recalled inheriting some “rock-ribbed ideas about the ways people should live together.”
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Sep 29, 2021 02:05
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:get hosed james he's not wrong
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Sep 29, 2021 02:14
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Frank would have been a chud cmon. He's on record as swooning at reagan in that good Heretics article a couple posts up
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Ingmar terdman posted:Frank would have been a chud cmon. He's on record as swooning at reagan in that good Heretics article a couple posts up Not everyone who liked Reagan at the time is a chud now. My dad voted for Reagan and is practically a full on socialist now He could have gone either way. I think he would have cared about climate change and loathed trump as a politician But who knows
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Sep 29, 2021 02:29
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I know one thing for sure: Frank Herbert would have shared exactly my political views, and we'd have been best pals and got ice cream together.
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Sep 29, 2021 02:57
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Pham Nuwen posted:I know one thing for sure: Frank Herbert would have shared exactly my political views, and we'd have been best pals and got ice cream together.
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skasion posted:Would really like to watch Miniseries of Dune with the cast of Farscape tbqh Only if they keep the Rigel puppet as the sandworms.
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Sep 29, 2021 03:18
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Mister Speaker posted:he's not wrong you cannot convince me that james has ever read a book
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Sep 29, 2021 03:37
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He's coming from having been in Children Of Dune and getting advice from a Farscape actress. The advice is sound in that arena and you all know it.
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Sep 29, 2021 06:03
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My PIN is 4826 posted:You haven't lived until you've experienced the really old Books on Tape version of Dune, narrated by Connor O'Brian and his whiny old lady voice. Haha, holy poo poo. I "read" the books up until Chapterhouse that way in the late aughties and couldn't afford anything but . It was a miserable experience, but to a kid with a dune addiction but no money it was bearable. I remember those recordings skipping and that I could hear what I think was traces of the B-side of the tapes it was ripped from. It was so poo poo. On the note of poo poo, I recall bailing from Chapterhouse (the low quality and O'Brian's awful voice finally got to me, I just couldn't follow the plot anymore) and trying out the failson House prequels. I got to Corrino and somewhere mid-book decided it was terrible and to never read any of them again. Can't remember what was the final straw but dumb poo poo like Bene Gesserits pissing blood on the Emperor's carpets to spite him didn't help.
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I'm making my way through the books and to be super honest Messiah already kind of lost me halfway through. Children isn't faring much better. All I really want is to read God Emperor for the weird 3500 year timeskip and worm emperor but now I'm afraid it won't live up to the hype for me.
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Sep 29, 2021 07:27
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My PIN is 4826 posted:You haven't lived until you've experienced the really old Books on Tape version of Dune, narrated by Connor O'Brian and his whiny old lady voice. Sadly, I can't find any examples of this abomination, it's almost as if it's been scrubbed from the internet.
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My Lovely Horse posted:I'm making my way through the books and to be super honest Messiah already kind of lost me halfway through. Children isn't faring much better. All I really want is to read God Emperor for the weird 3500 year timeskip and worm emperor but now I'm afraid it won't live up to the hype for me. The writing does take a turn in the sequels, from the tight, relatively plot focused hero cycle in Dune to a lot of scenes of Important People gabbing on about their plots within plots. My advice would be to expect more of that and plenty of introspective Ayahuasca-induced ruminations on the nature of humanity and the gays and bla bla bla but to stick with it as there are some incredible moments coming up and of course God Emperor is bonkers, but I wouldn't blame anyone for bouncing off it coming from Dune and expecting more of the same. If that sounds unbearable and you haven't already, Foundation does some of the same long time scale sci-fi stuff and from what I recall retains a more consistent narrative voice throughout.
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Im so mad they arent even filming the next movie yet.
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sebmojo posted:Merry Christmas, Beanpole Peckereood, james macavoy got u the truth i'm wearing the swollen crying screaming mark hamill face rn
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SubponticatePoster posted:My brain parsed this as Conan O'Brien and then immediately shorted out. Same.
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The Bloop posted:Not everyone who liked Reagan at the time is a chud now. Lolling at this The disgraced president “did us all a favor,” Herbert contended after Watergate. “Nixon taught us one hell of a lesson, and I thank him for it. He made us distrust government leaders.”
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