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Waltzing Along posted:The world would be better if there was an Uncharted 5 and 6 and no Last of Us 1 and 2. I thought the Uncharted games were alright, but they would have been way better with classic Tomb Raider style platforming and exploration. Actually Uncharted 4 was really good because they decided to rip off Metal Gear Solid instead of Gears of War. They should have made the first 3 either like classic Tomb Raider or MGS
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Instead new Tomb Raider is like Uncharted.
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Sep 29, 2021 00:34
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:Im starting to understand this principle more and more. Goldeneye is still fine.
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itry posted:Instead new Tomb Raider is like Uncharted. How so? I kinda want to play more Uncharted type stuff. I tried the first "new" Tomb Raider and found it to be clunky and full of bloat like crafting and open world poo poo.
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Sep 29, 2021 00:37
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Waltzing Along posted:How so? I kinda want to play more Uncharted type stuff. I tried the first "new" Tomb Raider and found it to be clunky and full of bloat like crafting and open world poo poo. Disclaimer: I haven't played Shadow of the Tomb Raider and I'm not an expert on Uncharted. In the new TB's you'll be spending most of your time killing people and hardly any time on puzzles (there are a handful of mini tomb-like room-sized puzzles disconnected from the rest of the game, iirc) or exploration. There's a heavy reliance on on-rail action "set pieces". There is no free platforming, you just hold a direction and press a key to move from one white/yellow marked object to another. They're fun if you want to shoot stuff with a bow. Edit: Anyway, search for "tomb raider"+uncharted for some in-depth analysis Edit: lol @ SotTR still having Denuvo. Squeenix are garbage. itry fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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Sep 29, 2021 00:51
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They also had really gruesome and violent death scenes for no apparent reason
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Sep 29, 2021 00:56
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Duck and Cover posted:I can't think of a theme that's actually used that's less appealing to me than "war game". Well except Binding of Isaacs dead babies, abuse, poop theme I think that wins. Ill play war, but im with you on Isaac.
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Sep 29, 2021 00:57
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Doctor J Off posted:They also had really gruesome and violent death scenes for no apparent reason I think I read somewhere they wanted the player to feel protective of Lara. That's probably a marketing answer (so a lie). Fake edit: Yeah, something like that; https://kotaku.com/youll-want-to-protect-the-new-less-curvy-lara-croft-5917400
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Sep 29, 2021 01:04
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The violent death scenes stop early on too, but there is one on the river that you're basically guaranteed to see which is why everyone remembers it.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:08
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itry posted:I think I read somewhere they wanted the player to feel protective of Lara. That's probably a marketing answer (so a lie). Yeah thats a whole lot of marketing nonsense. I don't understand why they needed to reboot Tomb Raider anyway - didn't they fix the series with Legend and Anniversary? What exactly was gained by '"more of the same, but different, in a way that's familiar?"
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Sep 29, 2021 01:09
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yeah tbh as much of a deal people make out of it, it's really only a few "special" environmental and set piece deaths that have those but most often it's just you ragdolling down a cliff on a missed jump or you get shot and fall down dead
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Sep 29, 2021 01:10
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itry posted:I think I read somewhere they wanted the player to feel protective of Lara. That's probably a marketing answer (so a lie). I don't even get the premise. More protective because less curvy??? What the hell is the connection? I feel like there was probably an ok message here but the guy had no idea how to convey it so this came out instead lol.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:10
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Doctor J Off posted:Yeah thats a whole lot of marketing nonsense. I don't understand why they needed to reboot Tomb Raider anyway - didn't they fix the series with Legend and Anniversary? What exactly was gained by '"more of the same, but different, in a way that's familiar?" Don't worry. In case you didn't like the reboot, they'll be going for another one! (3:00m mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_gO4xj5u9k Meme Poker Party posted:I don't even get the premise. More protective because less curvy??? What the hell is the connection? I feel like there was probably an ok message here but the guy had no idea how to convey it so this came out instead lol. No, more protective because Dark and Mature story. And because woman. Edit: I think the chain of thought was something like... We want to tell a mature story. We need people to identify with our main character. But (male) gamers don't care about women. We'll make them want to protect the main character instead. itry fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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Sep 29, 2021 01:12
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itry posted:No, more protective because Dark and Mature story. And because woman. But she was already a woman. They seem to be making the specific case that the aesthetic difference between OG Lara and Modern Lara would inspire a more protective feeling. The thing is that does make sense to me. But it's because OG Lara looked like a 90's action movie lady while Modern Lara looked more like a regular human. Not because her tits are smaller lol.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:18
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Meme Poker Party posted:I don't even get the premise. More protective because less curvy??? What the hell is the connection? I feel like there was probably an ok message here but the guy had no idea how to convey it so this came out instead lol. i suspect the answer is: game journalism. just finished rise ottr and it's a fun enough romp but oh god the writing is so grindingly generic and predictable i was jamming skip the moment scenes began, towards the end. it's fun scaling huge cliffs in sweet rear end plate mail though.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:23
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Meme Poker Party posted:But she was already a woman. They seem to be making the specific case that the aesthetic difference between OG Lara and Modern Lara would inspire a more protective feeling. This "When you see her have to face these challenges, you start to root for her in a way that you might not root for a male character." came before this "The ability to see her as a human is even more enticing to me than the more sexualized version of yesteryear," in the conversation. But it's not a direct transcript, so who knows. Maybe it is just a case of sebmojo posted:i suspect the answer is: game journalism.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:26
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sebmojo posted:i suspect the answer is: game journalism. 
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Sep 29, 2021 01:28
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It's Pappapisshu porn
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Sep 29, 2021 01:29
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Tomb Raider 2013 was a real good game, so of course two other unrelated studios made the sequels which were both middling for different reasons and didn't feel like true progressions of the concept. Still better than any uncharted game
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Sep 29, 2021 01:38
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They always maintained, right from the start, that when they first designed her, she wasn't meant to be so sexualized, and there was meant to be like a paternal / maternal instinct to protect her. But they gave her massive cans, how can that be true?
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Sep 29, 2021 01:39
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I think Rise was made by the same developers.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:40
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in shadow you can use 1990s era lara as a skin and it's somehow really horrifying
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Sep 29, 2021 01:45
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sebmojo posted:in shadow you can use 1990s era lara as a skin and it's somehow really horrifying lol wtf LOL!!!  
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Sep 29, 2021 01:50
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It looks like the pictures of the German doctor who embalmed a woman and kept her as his wife.
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Its even more horrifying in motion.
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I mean tbh as a gag option that's pretty funny.
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Sep 29, 2021 01:52
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My mistake he didn't embalm her, just stuff her corpse with rags. Cover her in plaster and dress her up
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Sep 29, 2021 01:54
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Classic skin in cutscenes is extra lol
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Meme Poker Party posted:I mean tbh as a gag option that's pretty funny. Oh yeah I admire their commitment to Kurtz-level Horror
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:Ill play war, but im with you on Isaac. Binding of Isaacs theme is at least something (the games also pretty good even if theme is awful). To me war games are the human warrior of video game themes not bad but what's the point? Wow you themed your shooter "war (1/2/modern)" good job really reaching out their to create something interesting!
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Duck and Cover posted:Binding of Isaacs theme is at least something (the games also pretty good even if theme is awful). To me war games are the human warrior of video game themes not bad but what's the point? Wow you themed your shooter "war (1/2/modern)" good job really reaching out their to create something interesting! I don't disagree with you at all. As an idea, I find the idea of war as a videogame really gross. In practice, I find it a lot of fun if it's done well. I'm just a man.
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I finally finished crysis 2 and it was fun, the story was agreeably twisty for a simple videogame, and there was some solid Peter watts biohorror in there
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:I don't disagree with you at all. As an idea, I find the idea of war as a videogame really gross. In practice, I find it a lot of fun if it's done well. I'm just a man. I didn't think you did and am sure there are plenty of fun war games. Not World of Tanks though, that game is a slow dull pay to win f2p cover based shooter filled with tank fuckers and/or Nazis. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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sebmojo posted:I finally finished crysis 2 and it was fun, the story was agreeably twisty for a simple videogame, and there was some solid Peter watts biohorror in there Peter Watts just wrote the novelization, Richard K Morgan wrote the game. Getting actual Sci Fi writers involved made a huge difference in story quality overall though.
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Duck and Cover posted:I didn't think you did and am sure their are plenty of fun war games. Not World of Tanks though, that game is a slow dull pay to win f2p cover based shooter filled with tank fuckers and/or Nazis. yeah once there are people shouting racist slurs over chat I am done with that game so i don't really play online games at all except multiplayer Morrowind. And I play this game Outward with my friend but nobody else.
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:yeah once there are people shouting racist slurs over chat I am done with that game I've always enjoyed multiplayer but to get decent chat out of it you need moderation. Team Fortress 2, Unreal Tournament etc. were player server based so if you found a decent server it was good. Games like World of Tanks could have fine chat but it'd require moderators soooooo not gonna happen as that would cost money. You have games like Hearthstone which have just said "gently caress it, no chat" which I don't really like because it makes the game feel less multiplayer. Chat box > voice chat > emotes. I can just ignore the chat box without actually blocking anyone generally. Voice chat can be disabled although I don't like to do it though because maybe someone said something useful (hahahahhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA). Emotes tend to feel sarcastic to me.
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Sep 29, 2021 03:43
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If you don't like Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars then you should probably be genocided.
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War Wizard posted:If you don't like Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars then you should probably be genocided. if you DO like Super Mario RPG you've been Geno-sided
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Excelzior posted:if you DO like Super Mario RPG you've been Geno-sided Ha! I get it.
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War Wizard posted:If you don't like Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars then you should probably be genocided. It really is severely overrated. I mean, for a console RPG of that time, it is fine. But compared to CRPGs that were 5 years older, it was crap.
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