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Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
I would literally rather run out of money, break my lease, move in with a friend or relative, and deal with the inevitable depressive episode than work retail or food service during this pandemic.

I am a single guy so I can understand people with actual responsibilities not feeling the same.

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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Both the Little Caesars and Long John Silver's here are closing at 8 PM every day due to lack of workers. Just those two though, everywhere else is open until at least 10 PM.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Twelve by Pies posted:

Both the Little Caesars and Long John Silver's here are closing at 8 PM every day due to lack of workers. Just those two though, everywhere else is open until at least 10 PM.

There's two Arby's by me that are just plain closed on Saturday and Sundays. A few other places have posted in the local forum some thinly veiled "We're hiring because lazy people don't want to work" posts. Really is a reckoning right now.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
I went to pick up my own breakfast yesterday to save on door dash fees and my local McDonald's was stupid slammed. Took me 30 minutes to get breakfast and a bunch of the other people waiting around were literally saying OUT LOUD the poo poo like "nobody wants to work" "this generation is so lazy" etc.

I (stupidly) tried to push back against some of that verbally and I dunno if it was because I was presenting femme yesterday or what,but some dude got literally up in my face to scream about how he will NOT calm down and that him waiting for his McMuffin was a big deal.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
"I've been gettin a mcmuffin at this MCD every morning for the past forty years and I ain't stoppin' now cause of the demoncrat plague I tell you what" :freep:

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



jivjov posted:

I went to pick up my own breakfast yesterday to save on door dash fees and my local McDonald's was stupid slammed. Took me 30 minutes to get breakfast and a bunch of the other people waiting around were literally saying OUT LOUD the poo poo like "nobody wants to work" "this generation is so lazy" etc.

I (stupidly) tried to push back against some of that verbally and I dunno if it was because I was presenting femme yesterday or what,but some dude got literally up in my face to scream about how he will NOT calm down and that him waiting for his McMuffin was a big deal.

"These people are barely able to afford to live on th-"

BUT WHAT ABOUT ME HAVING TO WAIT FOR MY MCMUFFIN?!

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
As always it comes down to unemployment should be something people are humiliated to be on and treated like second class citizens, and they should take whatever lovely job they can in order to avoid that humiliation.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I'm soooo loving tired of the "nobody wants to work bullshit".

U.S. worker productivity has done nothing but rise for decades as wages have flattened or even dropped.

This is really feeling like some sort of flash point or us absolutely reaching critical mass.

I hate to bring up the tired Late Stage Game of Monopoloy Meme but it really feels like that's what we're living in. Nobody wants to buy Old Kent Road and Whitechapel Road and even if they could, they've been snapped up by investors and can't afford it anyway. If they COULD afford it, it wouldn't change the game at all. Just more struggling.

The bosses I've worked for lately don't seem to understand that they're getting hosed just as much as the rest of us, failing to realize that they're not in the 5% either and never will be, which is where ALL of the loving money is. They're super pissed that the money isn't rolling in like it's "supposed to". That's why they're mad but they're blaming the wrong people. The places I've worked lately require an obscene amount of knowledge to make LESS than I made only 10 years ago.

Capitalism doesn't work when nobody has any money to buy the poo poo that drives it. All the money has trickled up. Don't give me this bullshit that tossing out $1400 checks is crashing the loving economy.

*posts pie analogy video*

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

jivjov posted:

I went to pick up my own breakfast yesterday to save on door dash fees and my local McDonald's was stupid slammed. Took me 30 minutes to get breakfast and a bunch of the other people waiting around were literally saying OUT LOUD the poo poo like "nobody wants to work" "this generation is so lazy" etc.

I (stupidly) tried to push back against some of that verbally and I dunno if it was because I was presenting femme yesterday or what,but some dude got literally up in my face to scream about how he will NOT calm down and that him waiting for his McMuffin was a big deal.


I mean your telling Americans aka the slave empire to have humanity for others. They own people via proxy.

And the slaves of the empire is the global south.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Grimdude posted:

I would literally rather run out of money, break my lease, move in with a friend or relative, and deal with the inevitable depressive episode than work retail or food service during this pandemic.

I am a single guy so I can understand people with actual responsibilities not feeling the same.


I went from food to emergency vet tech for no raise and despite the worse hours and going home covered in dog blood half the time, it's so much better. At least I do a bit of good instead of busting rear end to give some maskless fucko their bacon biscuit.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Medullah posted:

As always it comes down to unemployment should be something people are humiliated to be on and treated like second class citizens, and they should take whatever lovely job they can in order to avoid that humiliation.

The sick thing is how much self-loathing is built into society because of the steady great man propaganda that people still lap up hungrily. Every single time I have sought assistance I feel like a massive worthless piece of poo poo. It's seriously hosed.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

jivjov posted:

I went to pick up my own breakfast yesterday to save on door dash fees and my local McDonald's was stupid slammed. Took me 30 minutes to get breakfast and a bunch of the other people waiting around were literally saying OUT LOUD the poo poo like "nobody wants to work" "this generation is so lazy" etc.

I (stupidly) tried to push back against some of that verbally and I dunno if it was because I was presenting femme yesterday or what,but some dude got literally up in my face to scream about how he will NOT calm down and that him waiting for his McMuffin was a big deal.

Next time use the drive through

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Practically every drive through I've seen is like 10 cars long at any given time of day. People just cannot fathom cooking for themselves instead of sitting in a 30+ minute line.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Mercury_Storm posted:

Practically every drive through I've seen is like 10 cars long at any given time of day. People just cannot fathom cooking for themselves instead of sitting in a 30+ minute line.

That could also be inflated by grubhub/ubereats/doordash. Ever since the mobile treat economy I haven't seen an empty drive thru no matter what time of day.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Elephant Ambush posted:

Next time use the drive through

Okay so I'm over explaining the joke at this point, but I placed a mobile order and the drive thru line was such that I wouldn't have been able to get to the speaker and confirm my order til after breakfast hours ended and the app auto cancelled it. So i went with in store pickup. I don't at all mind a long wait, but I did really want the breakfast menu haha

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


I teach economics and careers in high school. For years, I have told kids that the economy will not be the same that they face today and that they need to be prepared for it.

I talked about how Walmarts in the future May end up as warehouses where workers fill orders (like they do now) but there is no more going through the building. The company sells more by using the app to increase impulse purchases and they save money on labor by not having to stock shelves other than just boxes.

I have decided that this is a labor shift that was going to happen in a decade or so as those shifts happen but the pandemic sped it up. People left low paying jobs through no choice of their own and, using the UI, they took a risk on either staying home or starting their own business.

“You need to find a better job or stop bitching” has now led to those people doing just that and finding out how to survive without that work life.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

jivjov posted:

I went to pick up my own breakfast yesterday to save on door dash fees and my local McDonald's was stupid slammed. Took me 30 minutes to get breakfast and a bunch of the other people waiting around were literally saying OUT LOUD the poo poo like "nobody wants to work" "this generation is so lazy" etc.


You went out to splurge on fancy pants McDonalds instead of raising your own chickens, slaughtering the hogs on your farm and making your own bread?

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).
I saw a Reddit post where a guy who moved to Denver from the south was like "Where are all the 24 hour places to eat and shop?"

The answer was basically that there's a bunch of places like that in, say, Tuscaloosa because labor is cheap and plentiful. In Denver, it's scarce and expensive. The night cashier at the grocery store is needed during rush hour. Her overnight supervisor in Tuscaloosa? They're a head teller at a bank here.
So everything except for 7-11, Denny's, and a smattering of dive bars and independent all night diners shuts early.

Kroger used to be 24 hours, then 5-midnight, now it's 6AM-11PM. Target "overnight" shifts, even at busy stores, are more like 4AM-1230PM. Anything that pays below $15 an hour is going to struggle to get anyone through the door to work.

I kind of don't mind this. Nice to see labor getting a tiny bit of power for once.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

blackmet posted:

I saw a Reddit post where a guy who moved to Denver from the south was like "Where are all the 24 hour places to eat and shop?"

The answer was basically that there's a bunch of places like that in, say, Tuscaloosa because labor is cheap and plentiful. In Denver, it's scarce and expensive. The night cashier at the grocery store is needed during rush hour. Her overnight supervisor in Tuscaloosa? They're a head teller at a bank here.
So everything except for 7-11, Denny's, and a smattering of dive bars and independent all night diners shuts early.

Kroger used to be 24 hours, then 5-midnight, now it's 6AM-11PM. Target "overnight" shifts, even at busy stores, are more like 4AM-1230PM. Anything that pays below $15 an hour is going to struggle to get anyone through the door to work.

I kind of don't mind this. Nice to see labor getting a tiny bit of power for once.

Yeah, tbh even though the lovely customers were bad too, I probably could have eked it out in retail as second earner forever if we could just be open reasonable hours. But the last motherfucking manager wouldn't even let me have sunday as my one guaranteed shift off so I quit to focus on my health care* and find a better job when I'm ready. This time we at least have enough family support that I'm not stopping until I get a job that matches my own self-worth.

*exacerbated by the gently caress face's text that I better start calling him directly for calling out when I was in between er and urgent care visits because I literally could not keep food or liquids down for almost a week. Never felt better about quitting on the spot in my life.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
The greatest lie the devil ever told was "left vs right" when it's just the top making GBS threads on everyone else.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

BiggerBoat posted:

Capitalism doesn't work when nobody has any money to buy the poo poo that drives it. All the money has trickled up. Don't give me this bullshit that tossing out $1400 checks is crashing the loving economy.
"socialism works until you run out of other peoples' money" :smuggo:
while forgetting that capitalism works until you run out of your own money and let's put your bank account up against bezo's and see who wins.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

InsertPotPun posted:

"socialism works until you run out of other peoples' money" :smuggo:
while forgetting that capitalism works until you run out of your own money and let's put your bank account up against bezo's and see who wins.

Well the good news is Jeff Bezos has a lot of loving money so I think socialism still has the edge in this comparison, and it's honestly hilarious that these idiots that post that kinda poo poo can't see it.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

InsertPotPun posted:

"socialism works until you run out of other peoples' money" :smuggo:
while forgetting that capitalism works until you run out of your own money and let's put your bank account up against bezo's and see who wins.

How can you run out of other people's money though?

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Taerkar posted:

How can you run out of other people's money though?
"if you tax the rich they'll just move someplace with less taxes"

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
That's why California, the state with the highest state tax rate in the entire US, is well known for having absolutely no rich people living in it.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




From 1936 to 1981 the top tax bracket in the United States was at least 70%. During that period we put a man on the moon, built the Interstate Highway system, funded the New Deal, fought WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, eradicated several diseases, saw the birth of the Internet, and built hundreds of 2 and 4 year colleges. Then Reaganomics hosed up the economy, possibly irretrievably.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Doctor Butts posted:

Not sure if it was here or somewhere else but basically someone said that conservatives must think that their kids are taught history by walking through a park and asking what the statue is for.



Seen here: history in action

Sardine Wit
Sep 3, 2004

Getting real 'good guy' vibes from the grinning skull in a crown

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009

Sardine Wit posted:

Getting real 'good guy' vibes from the grinning skull in a crown

Look at this guy who doesn't know about Ralph

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"That's a hell of an act, what do you call it?"
"The Internet Aristocrat!"

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

the sex ghost posted:

Look at this guy who doesn't know about Ralph

John Goodman just keeps losing weight

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
What is Sargon even up to these days?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Is there another Milo, or is it the edge lord "padeophile is actually okay oh no my career got nuked from obit literally before the best era for being a troll poo poo lord"

Local Weather
Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome

GoutPatrol posted:



Seen here: history in action

This aged well. I remember seeing it when someone first published it and thinking what a huge load of garbage it was. I guess I was psychic because I think every one of the referenced idiots has fallen off the radar in the past few years.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

Local Weather posted:

This aged well. I remember seeing it when someone first published it and thinking what a huge load of garbage it was. I guess I was psychic because I think every one of the referenced idiots has fallen off the radar in the past few years.

I have no idea who they are

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

DarkHorse posted:

I have no idea who they are

How could you forget Adam?! Adam!

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

DarkHorse posted:

I have no idea who they are

I think they're all connected to Gamergate somehow...? The only one I'm familiar with is Milo, notable for dropping out of the right-wing-o-sphere after he lost a lucrative book deal because he outed himself as a pedophile. Not too sure on the others but quick Google seems to associate the other names with Gamergate.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Sargon of Akkad wasn't a gamergater iirc, he just liked to yell about Western Civilization using a cartoon of a bust of a mesopotamian sculpture as his avatar.

And is british, so not exactly "of Akkad" but they prolly stole the bust at least once, and he's prolly ok with it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Carl of Swindon

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How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
IIRC the Sargon guy actually ran for office in the UK and everybody shat all over him.

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