Car Hater posted:

They also already have their domes. Cheyenne Mountain. Raven Rock. Chiashan. And thousands of others scattered throughout the world, designed to keep the notion of the state and it's right to dominate you alive forever. You think they didn't think of you pooping in the vents when your grandparents were still in nappies?

Only Da Bomb can save us now

Shima Honnou posted:

anyone who's worked a logistics job knows that capitalism optimizes through skeletonization, there is zero resilience or wiggle room to it. everything has been like three tractor-trailers from collapse for over 20 years.

Car Hater posted:

Nah they'll use the bases as the bailey and the physical defenses as the most in order to kickstart their little local feudalisms. We must deny them our descendents

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Also, not that people in here have to be MORE angry, but this is just another example of end-stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfQJiGJO5Bo

We've gone from "A Diamond is Forever" to "Only Simps Buy Lab-Made."

mcbexx posted:

Skimmed through the comments, not a single jab at big diamond, everyone's just fawning over how pretty everything is.

Trabisnikof posted:

well sure, you can delete negative comments on your videos and their ad agency has someone answering comments and monitoring the page

Car Hater posted:

Lol fine I'll run the imaginary person over with my bike instead, as if it matters. The domes aren't coming to save us.

The Protagonist posted:

You don't think the hyper-nationalism turned hyper-fascism will do every horrible thing possible in its power to prolong some semblance of the lifestyle the imperial core has afforded them thus far?

This is not a callout directed at you or any individual in the thread, but I wanted to comment on a more pervasive phenomenon I've noticed picking up steam recently, concurrent with the accelerating extreme weather events and general breakdown.

I'm still workshopping it but for now call it 'sudden collapse optimism', the bizarrely comforting idea that the forces that have both perpetrated and denied the ecological cataclysm will suddenly be subject to the very forces they have unleashed. It's a much harder pill to swallow that they'll do everything they can to keep the party going a little bit longer (insert whatever atrocities your imagination can summon) and their political base of support will swell and grow as they continue to, quite successfully, project blame on outsiders and The Other.

Most of the posters ITT have reached some level of acceptance about the ecological predicament as it stands, and a sudden collapse of The State in the face of that is an odd, and I would argue, idealistic offshoot of that awareness.


The idea that the brutalism of capital will expand exponentially in the face of this crisis and is likely outlast all of us is another step down the crack-ping steps to hell that is hard to accept.




We will live to see manmade horrors beyond our comprehension.

quote:

Is the threat of a mass extinction event on Earth looming large? Scientists have found a key signifier of impending doom for all civilisation on Earth.

Based on algae and bacterial bloom patterns in water bodies, scientists are convinced that a serious extinction event is about to hit us. Changes in the algal and bacterial make-up of water bodies points to an ongoing ecological disaster.

What the signs say
These changes are akin to what happened when the last mass extinction event happened 251 million years ago, known as the "Great Dying". At this time, 90 per cent of all species on Earth disappeared, marking the biggest loss of life on the planet.

According to researchers from the Swedish Museum of Natural History, Stockholm, toxic algae and bacteria that are now growing in our lakes and rivers mirror the characteristics of the blooms that existed in the Great Dying period.

Current changes in freshwater bodies is linked to a range of human activities including deforestation, loss of soil, and emission of greenhouse gases. In the study published in Nature Communications, scientists said that algal and bacterial blooms are linked to mass extinction events, calling this correlation a "disconcerting signal" for environmental changes in the future.

It appears that we're actually in the middle of a mass extinction event... this one caused entirely by human actions.

What do microbial blooms do?
Microbial blooms do not simply kill the life in freshwater bodies, but also delay the potential recovery of these ecosystems by millions of years, the team claimed. To reach this conclusion, the scientists analysed fossil records near Sydney, Australia that were buried before, during and after the Great Dying period.
Most of the extinction events during that time were due to volcanic eruptions that drove global temperatures up and emitted greenhouse gases. Not much later, wildfires, droughts and other extreme climate events became common. The same pattern is currently forming on contemporary Earth.

This led to loss of forests. Owing to this, soil and nutrients that once nourished the forest land seeped into nearby lakes and rivers, causing microbial and algal blooms to glow. Due to higher temperatures, such blooms would have been already been thriving in those freshwater bodies.

Microbes are important for maintaining the health of any freshwater ecosystem. But in excess, they turn our sources of water into toxic soup that kills all life. While the Great Dying blooms flourished without human help, the current blooms are a direct product of human action that has contaminated ecosystems. Even then, the key characteristics of blooms from the Great Dying and the ones found now are nearly identical.

By the year 2100, with increasing temperatures, more blooms are expected to grow in our freshwater bodies. By that point, the mass extinction event would be peaking, signs of which have started to appear now.

What does this terrifying news mean for you? Let us know in the comments below. As always, keep reading Indiatimes.com for your daily dose of all things science and technology.

Lost Time posted:

lol lmao
https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/science-and-future/humans-middle-of-mass-extinction-event-550114.html

https://twitter.com/ClimateBen/status/1443236321015775236

Car Hater posted:

They also already have their domes. Cheyenne Mountain. Raven Rock. Chiashan. And thousands of others scattered throughout the world, designed to keep the notion of the state and it's right to dominate you alive forever. You think they didn't think of you pooping in the vents when your grandparents were still in nappies?

Only Da Bomb can save us now

Trabisnikof posted:

got some toys for the thread!

Cutie Polluties







(they're for sale by a canned water company lol)

SKULL.GIF posted:

crossposted from doomsday economics: https://www.reddit.com/r/supplychain/comments/pww8h9/is_there_even_a_case_for_optimism/

Trabisnikof posted:

(they're for sale by a canned water company lol)

BIG HEADLINE posted:

And every can has an interior coating of extremely strong and extremely non-biodegradable plastic that can even stand up to acid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBQEnVR7y9k

So they can go gently caress themselves in two respects: hypocrisy and unnecessary carbon use in shipping their repackaged H2O all over the country. The "Boxed Water" folks can get hosed, too.

quote:

Most major bottled water brands are actually just processed municipal tap water. Liquid Death comes from a deep underground mountain source protected by a few hundred feet of stone. The water is tapped right from the source into our bottler where it goes directly into air-tight cans after a fancy purification process that 100% maintains the original mineral profile of the water. And these natural minerals (aka electrolytes) aren’t just good for your body, they will murder your thirst. Instantly.

quote:

10% OF THE PROFITS FROM EVERY CAN IS DONATED TO HELP KILL PLASTIC POLLUTION.

Every time you buy a can of Liquid Death, we donate a portion of the profits to a handful of non-profits who are fighting the plastic problem and bringing clean drinking water to people in need.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

And every can has an interior coating of extremely strong and extremely non-biodegradable plastic that can even stand up to acid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBQEnVR7y9k

So they can go gently caress themselves in two respects: hypocrisy and unnecessary carbon use in shipping their repackaged H2O all over the country world. The "Boxed Water" folks can get hosed, too.

Trabisnikof posted:

Rime posted:

IMO, the hyper-nationalist fascism stage of this decline will be shockingly brief, because these institutions are inherently subject to physical systemic pressures so far out of their control (and possibly comprehension) that they will be unable to muster the control over circumstance necessary to maintain control over territory.

SKULL.GIF posted:

crossposted from doomsday economics: https://www.reddit.com/r/supplychain/comments/pww8h9/is_there_even_a_case_for_optimism/

quote:

400 year climate projections are silly

I believe there is a climate crisis. I think billions could die if we don't work to address it.

But to make a projection that far is nonsensical.

Let's say the worst case is right. Well, in 100 years you probably have a few billion less humans to start. Which means you have a lot less negative impact on the climate. We'd probably be knocked back to pre-industrial time.

You telling me 300 years at that level won't even begin to revert things? I find that hard to believe.

God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student

God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!"

God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!"

Unless posted:

https://www.fema.gov/grants/mitigation/building-resilient-infrastructure-communities

quote:

NEW CASTLE, NEW YORK: UPPER MINKEL DAM DECOMMISSIONING & RIPARIAN CORRIDOR RESTORATION PROJECT - $1.05 MILLION

Benefits: Reduces potential flood hazard for downstream communities and natural ecosystem restoration

The Upper Minkel Dam is a high hazard Class C dam with a high cost of maintenance to prevent any imminent dam breach. Removing the dam and restoring the stream and its riparian area will have a positive environmental benefit because it will help mitigate flood damage associated with the dam and remove a barrier to fish species designated as Species of Greatest Conservation Need that migrate through this area—the American eel and herring.

God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!"

God Hole posted:

typing environmental planner into linkedin gets you a ton of results, but 100% of them are to work in compliance helping huge private corporations sidestep zoning laws and local regulations as they're building their toxic waste dump processing facility in a black community

BIG HEADLINE posted:

No, I think when the hyper-nationalist, hyper-fascist powers start to quarrel with each other over what's left is when you're going to start seeing the canned sunshine being cracked open.

I keep bringing up the ending of "Three Days of the Condor" in my head, when Redford's character finally gets his "friend" to cop to being one of the bad guys.

Doctor Jeep posted:

lol, movie after book after tv show after documentary made over the 70 years and the impact is close to zero, the same poo poo is happening today
the power of culture

quote:

What does this terrifying news mean for you? Let us know in the comments below.

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

I knew permafrost melt was theorized to release methane deposits but I didn't know they would come in the form of giant explosions
https://twitter.com/motherboard/status/1443051176371658753?s=20

quote:

The Trump administration ended enforcement against companies for accidental bird deaths in 2017, following pressure from oil companies, utilities and other industries.

The Independent Petroleum Association of America said resuming prosecutions would harm businesses that killed birds "through no fault of their own".

Funky See Funky Do posted:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-30/us-declares-23-species-including-ivory-billed-woodpecker-extinct/100502454

Funky See Funky Do posted:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-30/us-declares-23-species-including-ivory-billed-woodpecker-extinct/100502454

quote:

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - Of the 23 species the U.S. government declared extinct his week, nine were indigenous to Hawaii.

No other state or U.S. territory has more species on the extinction list ― due in large part to Hawaii’s biodiversity. Eight of the Hawaii species are woodland birds and is a plant.

The most recent to go extinct was the poouli, a honeycreeper discovered in 1973.

By the late 1990s just three remained — a male and two females.
After failures to mate them in the wild, the male was captured for potential breeding and died in 2004. The two females were never seen again.

The other species declared extinct in Hawaii were:

Kauai akialoa (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1969
Kauai nukupuu (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1899
Kauai oo (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1987
Large Kauai thrush (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1987
Maui akepa (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1988
Maui nukupuu (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1996
Molokai creeper (bird), last confirmed sighting in 1963
Phyllostegia glabra var. lanaiensis (plant), last confirmed sighting in 1914
The fate of Hawaii’s birds helped push Duke University extinction expert Stuart Pimm into his field. Despite the grim nature of the government’s proposal to move more species into the extinct column, Pimm said the toll would probably have been much higher without the Endangered Species Act.

Irony.or.Death posted:

consider it your daily reminder that none of the problems discussed in this thread can be solved via the market; your best bet is probably unless' link, spending dozens or hundreds of hours assembling a grant proposal and team, then losing because your competition was better at lies and bribery than you are

good luck!

God Hole posted:

me, an urban planning master's student who is extremely passionate about the environment, about to graduate, and looking for literally any jobs that would allow me to direct my time & energy toward making the infrastructure of my city more resilient to a changing climate and increased frequency of extreme weather events (a city whose main freeway just turned into a canal for a week): "huh, these jobs don't seem to exist at all!"