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Which horse film is your favorite?
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Black Beauty 2 1.06%
A Talking Pony!?! 4 2.13%
Mr. Hands 2x Apple Flavor 117 62.23%
War Horse 11 5.85%
Mr. Hands 54 28.72%
Total: 188 votes
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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

How are u posted:

Jesus, how many people itt wear the full elasto masks?

Never seen a single one in my area that takes masking pretty seriously, and never in any of my travels around our region throughout the pandemic.

For another perspective on this — I ordered one this week with a few different kinds of cartridges. Normally, I use KN95. I’m not in a high-risk job right now (hopefully this continues), but I have had to start commuting by bus to the office, so I will be using more of said masks.

I hesitated for a long time —maybe part of me never wanted to accept the permanence of the situation, and I think I will feel a little awkward when I wear it. I might not open it for a while.

My main concern is the potential of supply shortages affecting the kind of masks I usually buy. Is this a realistic concern? I don’t know, but some other things I regularly buy have been impacted already. Some products, while available, have been increasing in price very quickly. I don’t have particular insight into the supply chain around this, but the compounding issues of late have got me anxious about it.

For less than $100 I can feel prepared for any longer-term shortage. It seems like a useful thing to have at home in this era in general: I have already had to buy masks every summer in the wildfire season. Although the issue of waste isn’t at the forefront of my mind (for a long time my operating assumption was that waste produced from preventive measures is far outweighed by the waste and costs incurred by illness), it does seem better to avoid single-use products where possible.

I hope this makes sense.

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Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

How are u posted:

This seems a little extreme. Why? I have cats and I know how bad it can smell, but its not *that* bad.

Toxoplasmosis? The cysts can live for months in sand or dirt or cat litter

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


7of7 posted:

I've wondered how bad inhaling the clay dust from two litterboxes every day will be for my future health. Maybe wearing a mask would be a good idea.

It’s for the smell. And I purchased one for home renovations (asbestos removal specifically) prior to the pandemic. I don’t wear it for health reasons when I clean their crappers.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Fuschia tude posted:

Toxoplasmosis? The cysts can live for months in sand or dirt or cat litter

Oh I've fully accepted that I've got the toxo by this point. I've had these cats for years and years.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



KF/KN94's are probably the best balance of terrors imho, if you're not having sickos coughing all over you all day. I can hand someone an N95 but at this point people are used to and want the ear thing and one person I know who wears them swears they're better for glasses wearers

As has been elaborated on there's a lot of non-COVID reasons to have an elastomeric handy and there's no better time than now to ensure you get one that fits. Anything you can do in your hobbies or construction work to limit your exposure to fumes and particulates is highly recommended considering the poo poo we're exposed to day to day that's become normalized (CARS!!!!! :argh:)

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

HelloSailorSign posted:

As far as the discussion as to, "what NPIs?" I am:
- pro masking indoors; I am ambivalent on cloth/surgical vs. N95 for brief encounter situations in places with good ventilation. I am pro N95, ambivalent P100, for workers who are in the same room(s) as other workers or who have extended customer interaction for their shift. For anything but the most at risk (immunocompromised, healthcare, etc.), I :rolleyes: at people with P100s (I have concerns regarding future exposures to other pathogens that we've gotten used to yearly or every other year exposure to maintain some level of immunity, similar to the RSV wave we have going on in kids)

???

Do you think that viruses (and the ærosols they are embedded in) phase through N95 filters but not P100? Why is SARS‐CoV‐2 uniquely stopped by both?

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Sep 30, 2021

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure
I :rolleyes: at people who practice safe sex. what nerds. just pull out

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Professor Beetus posted:

Quick searching did not turn up any p100s that don't have exhalation valves and were not elastomerics, but I take your word that they exist. I might check out the masks section in the CSPAM thread but personally feel like vaxxed/n95 is more than enough, especially since we are still limiting our exposure to other people and enclosed spaces as much as is reasonably possible.

In case anyone does want elastomerics, this is the full list of NIOSH‐approved non‐valved elastomeric respirators.

They approve mask/filter combinations, so there are really only four models:

MSA Advantage 290
MSA Advantage 900
GVS Elipse NonValved
Dentec 400 NX

The first three use the molds of a valved model, so they look like they have valve covers, but there is no valve underneath and exhalation goes through the filters. You may get hassled about them.

The Dentec 400 NX is more distinctive, but, well, I’ll let you decide.



Here is the page to search by other criteria.

I can find one valveless FFRs (i.e. the disposable mask‐like type) with N100 protection, Shenyang Baianda Safety Co.’s Model EF600.



The are fourteen valveless N99 options.

Platystemon fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Sep 30, 2021

litany of gulps
Jun 11, 2001

Fun Shoe

How are u posted:

This seems a little extreme. Why? I have cats and I know how bad it can smell, but its not *that* bad.

Ignoring the completely obvious idiocy of this post and the fact that you seem to be trolling multiple threads with similar stupid poo poo, I have an air purifier with an air quality sensor. When I clean a cat litter box, I can see with the naked eye plumes of dust go into the air. My air purifier always triggers after this and clears it out of the air.

How in the world can you not recognize that wearing a mask while cleaning a box of poo poo dust is a good practice?

Maybe, instead of rape apologia, you should just stop huffing poo poo dust for a moment.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Platystemon posted:

In case anyone does want elastomerics, this is the full list of NIOSH‐approved non‐valved elastomeric respirators.

They approve mask/filter combinations, so there are really only four models:

MSA Advantage 290
MSA Advantage 900
GVS Elipse NonValved
Dentec 400 NX

Here is the page to search by other criteria.

I can find one valveless FFRs (i.e. the disposable mask‐like type) with N100 protection, Shenyang Baianda Safety Co.’s Model EF600.



Hey, thanks for this!

Fuschia tude posted:

Toxoplasmosis? The cysts can live for months in sand or dirt or cat litter

Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm now a willing brain slave of the cat poo poo parasite.

e: I can't spot a pet tax for this page so uh, have this I guess.

https://twitter.com/clintoris/status/1442730676797718528?s=19

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Professor Beetus posted:

Hey, thanks for this!

I updated the post with this, but if you want valveless N99s, there are fourteen models and CDC put them in a convenient table.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

litany of gulps posted:

How in the world can you not recognize that wearing a mask while cleaning a box of poo poo dust is a good practice?

Did people keep cats before the advent of n95 masks? How did they ever survive, crazy to think about.

e: I'm clearly being flip, but it is pretty wild to me that somebody could get grumpy about somebody else not agreeing that medical grade masks need to be used in the process of cleaning a cat litter box lol. I will agree that it's probably better for your health in some minutely quantifiable way, but, uh, also they're just cat litter boxes. People have been scooping them and handling it just fine for however long cat litter boxes have existed.

How are u fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Sep 30, 2021

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
The volume and intricate detail of mask chat in this thread is amazing. It's like when you stumble across a youtube channel and a guy has fifty, hour long videos on the various types of suitcase hinge that are available.

It's a good thing, glad people can find the info. I usually just scroll past and even so I've absorbed more information about masks by osmosis than I ever dreamed I would know.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



litany of gulps posted:

Ignoring the completely obvious idiocy of this post and the fact that you seem to be trolling multiple threads with similar stupid poo poo, I have an air purifier with an air quality sensor. When I clean a cat litter box, I can see with the naked eye plumes of dust go into the air. My air purifier always triggers after this and clears it out of the air.

How in the world can you not recognize that wearing a mask while cleaning a box of poo poo dust is a good practice?

Maybe, instead of rape apologia, you should just stop huffing poo poo dust for a moment.

Yeah no none of that here, don't poo poo things up just because you feel like someone else is

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

How are u posted:

Did people keep cats before the advent of n95 masks? How did they ever survive, crazy to think about.

Sure they did — I did! As soon as I did have N95s on hand after a smokey summer, though, it immediately made sense to me to put one near the litterbox when I was catsitting. Was it necessary? No. Did I feel better about not breathing in litter and poo poo dust? Absolutely. Especially when they weren’t my cats.

Have you ever changed the way you have done something based on tools that you have acquired for some other purpose? I think most people do this many times in their lives.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
You know, it is the end of the month and that's when I change out the full litter for fresh, so maybe I will try wearing a mask for that part. That's the yucky bit with the dust and all.

GonadTheBallbarian
Jul 23, 2007


It's a pretty easy calculus.

Do I look crazy? Maybe. But will I have the best possible outcome? Definitely.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
BTW be sure to click the pic in the twitter link I posted. It doesn't quite have the full effect without it.

litany of gulps
Jun 11, 2001

Fun Shoe

Epic High Five posted:

Yeah no none of that here, don't poo poo things up just because you feel like someone else is

Sorry guy, didn't realize that I was making GBS threads things up more than the rape and poo poo sniffer, thanks for moderating!

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

litany of gulps posted:

Sorry guy, didn't realize that I was making GBS threads things up more than the rape and poo poo sniffer, thanks for moderating!

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

If you want to come back here, try not to be a shithead. I don't give a single hoot who posts in here if they're not forum banned or thread banned, and no one in here needs your dumb aggro posting.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004



The holdouts don't care about how an mRNA vaccine works or what a billion doses' stats over the past year look like. It's all emotional pushes at this point, and if that means creating an underclass of opt-in idiots who can't travel or enter restaurants, then fine.

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Gio posted:

If you have a cat or cats, you should get an elastomeric respirator to clean the kitty shitters. Also has come in handy for a number of home projects. So what I’m saying is they’re cool and good for purposes other than covid.

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

MadJackal posted:

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

Can you explain your thinking? As a doctor you might have some insights to share on this matter.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


MadJackal posted:

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

I don’t think this is the thread for these kinds of posts. I would encourage you to express opinions like these in the CSPAM thread.

virtualboyCOLOR
Dec 22, 2004

MadJackal posted:

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

Can we not do this? I’m quite enjoying this thread and how it continues to progress.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
It is Wednesday.

Time to clean the litterbox.



It’s called the “Resp-O-Rator” and it’s marketed to mouthbreathers woodworkers.

nexous
Jan 14, 2003

I just want to be pure

MadJackal posted:

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

That’s just the toxoplasmosis talkin

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Platystemon posted:

It is Wednesday.

Time to clean the litterbox.



It’s called the “Resp-O-Rator” and it’s marketed to mouthbreathers woodworkers.

This is like someone got a grant to make an elastomeric that was as uncomfortable and needlessly complicated as possible

MadJackal posted:

I kinda get now how a large group of Goons were relegated to a barely-modded subforum.

?



v v v v AAAAHHHHHHHHH

Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Sep 30, 2021

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Epic High Five posted:

This is like someone got a grant to make an elastomeric that was as uncomfortable and needlessly complicated as possible

What you need is the Resp-O-Rator Junior. It gets no simpler than this, folks.

Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!
what bizarre subgenre of steampunk is this nonsense

i dont like it. feels bad.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
It looks like a student engineer's project.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

How can either of those possibly filter your breathing unless the nose clips are actually full noseplugs?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Fuschia tude posted:

How can either of those possibly filter your breathing unless the nose clips are actually full noseplugs?

That's the worst part of them, I think they squeeze your nose shut like you're trying not to sneeze

At least they use real filters......probably

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Fritz the Horse posted:

what bizarre subgenre of steampunk is this nonsense

i dont like it. feels bad.

I’m glad you asked.

These are from the top review of the Resp-O-Rator on Amazon.





It’s like they’re cargo‐culting the “backpack” filter mode that Honeywell offers for welders.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
It’s just a convenience filter thing for intermittent shop work, you aren’t supposed to wear it for hours or even minutes, or as a medical grade thing, you just breath through it for the 30 seconds you are turning something on a lathe and it’s blowing sawdust in your face then you don’t breath through it when you stop

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
Yeah, the YouTube sword guy uses one; I think the idea is that it's a lot easier to go between using/not using it with gloves on and such.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Zarin posted:

Yeah, the YouTube sword guy uses one; I think the idea is that it's a lot easier to go between using/not using it with gloves on and such.

Yeah, it’s for that sort of thing, you wear it around your neck and then breath through it only specifically when you are doing the steps that kick up dust or bits of smoke or something like that. It’s not meant for continuous wear or real protection against very toxic substances. It’s for breathing less uncomfortable or annoying stuff for work you are doing.

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1443421052948914180


The PRC is genuinely committed to, and capable of, zero COVID for the long haul

must be nice to live in a country where the government can actually do things :sigh:

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

A big flaming stink posted:

https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1443421052948914180


The PRC is genuinely committed to, and capable of, zero COVID for the long haul

must be nice to live in a country where the government can actually do things :sigh:

It is extraordinary how slow and cumbersome any infrastructure project, or frankly any project has become in the west.

I found this article about this from 28th June.
https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/china-build-massive-international-health-station-q/

Can you even conceive of any other government announcing something on the 28th of June, 3 months ago, and thinking to yourself "well that will be done before October"


From the 25th of June
https://www.smh.com.au/national/mcgowan-on-board-with-morrison-s-perth-quarantine-camp-plan-20210625-p584d5.html

quote:

Perth or Jandakot airports could be the site of a 1000-person quarantine camp after the McGowan government accepted a Commonwealth request to work together to establish the facility.

From 20th September
https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2021/35/time-for-quick-and-dirty-hotel-quarantine-is-long-gone/

quote:

Experts have been pushing for more of these types of facilities for some time. Only recently has the federal government announced they will build specialist quarantine camps at Bullsbrook on the outskirts of Perth, Mickleham in Melbourne, and Pinkenba, near Brisbane Airport. They should be up and running in 2022.

By December 2022 they will have some caravans on bricks set up in the desert. Staffed by underpaid contract workers who go home every night to their families in the city center.

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norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
At least Sodexo will make a poo poo ton of money providing services to the mostly empty facilities I guess

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