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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

Bismuth posted:

basically, if you're poor and cant pay it off all at once then gently caress you pay a bunch more

Isn't it also the case that if you CAN pay it off early, there are laws against it, so you HAVE to pay the interest?

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Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Samovar posted:

Isn't it also the case that if you CAN pay it off early, there are laws against it, so you HAVE to pay the interest?

I actually dont know, i just assumed people who could afford it would just pay it off up front

Amphigory
Feb 6, 2005




Not dischargeable by bankruptcy either lol

ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


Samovar posted:

Isn't it also the case that if you CAN pay it off early, there are laws against it, so you HAVE to pay the interest?

No but also lol the idea of paying them off early

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

We're not perfect, and we used to have free tertiary education (but that was before my time), but in Australia we get loans from the government. They get paid off as part of your tax. Not making enough money to pay tax? Then you're also not making repayments to the loan. There's no interest either, but there is "indexation" based on cost of living. That's currently 0.6%.

Lots of things wrong with this stupid country, but that part is pretty good at least.

organburner
Apr 10, 2011

This avatar helped buy Lowtax a new skeleton.

I think that tuition in america is also way more expensive than anywhere else.

At least I didn't pay poo poo for my bachelors of engineering here in Finland. I think only foreigners need to pay tuition and it's like 4000-18000€ per year or something.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

organburner posted:

I think that tuition in america is also way more expensive than anywhere else.

At least I didn't pay poo poo for my bachelors of engineering here in Finland. I think only foreigners need to pay tuition and it's like 4000-18000€ per year or something.

Yeah I came over there for work (I used to work for Flowrox, based in Lappeenranta. Their Australian office is in Sydney) and my boss was telling me about the educational system over there. You guys have it right, as well as the heavily subsidised lunches for students. Our head office was near LUT campus and so we used to eat at the cafeteria there. €2 for lunch and it was an all you can eat deal. What a way to live as a student!

Comparatively I did a double bachelor's in engineering and business then a master of engineering science and my HECS debt (the one the guy above you mentioned) was like $65k AUD

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

bike tory posted:



This post made by proto mammal gang


Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 208 days!

okay so i googled synapsid and am very confused

quote:

Today, the 5,500 species of living synapsids, known as the mammals, include both aquatic (whales) and flying (bats) species, and the largest animal ever known to have existed (the blue whale). Humans are synapsids, as well. Most mammals are viviparous and give birth to live young rather than laying eggs with the exception being the monotremes.

seems like the memes are coming from the synapsids (humans) themselves?

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Hodgepodge posted:

okay so i googled synapsid and am very confused

seems like the memes are coming from the synapsids (humans) themselves?

These are referencing the ancient past where the synapsids nearly went extinct and the archosaurs became dominant worldwide. Of course in the long run mammals hung in there and well who's laughing now

It's no one because us synapsids are working hard at destroying the earth once and for all but what can you do

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Synapsids dominated in the Permian. Dimetredon was a synapsid.



The Great Dying got most of them and left an opening for the dinosaurs and other archosaurs.



Only mammals, therocephalids and cynogaths survived. Therocephalids went extinct in the Middle Triassic. Cynogaths survived more or less till the K–T extinction that finally got rid of those pesky dinosaurs, or at least the non‐avian ones.

Mammals have been alone for sixty‐six million years.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Platystemon posted:

Synapsids dominated in the Permian. Dimetredon was a synapsid.




Gonna get ya!

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Humphreys posted:

Gonna get ya!



Oh gently caress yes, Dino Riders for lyfe.

You know Jesus was the original Dino Rider.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 208 days!

Platystemon posted:

Synapsids dominated in the Permian. Dimetredon was a synapsid.



The Great Dying got most of them and left an opening for the dinosaurs and other archosaurs.



Only mammals, therocephalids and cynogaths survived. Therocephalids went extinct in the Middle Triassic. Cynogaths survived more or less till the K–T extinction that finally got rid of those pesky dinosaurs, or at least the non‐avian ones.

Mammals have been alone for sixty‐six million years.

hrm. clearly the meteor was just helping us even the score


Regy Rusty posted:

These are referencing the ancient past where the synapsids nearly went extinct and the archosaurs became dominant worldwide. Of course in the long run mammals hung in there and well who's laughing now

It's no one because us synapsids are working hard at destroying the earth once and for all but what can you do

leaving us time and space... for revenge on earth itself!

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Hodgepodge posted:


seems like the memes are coming from the synapsids (humans) themselves?

Most memes are created by crabs.

43.2% of internet users are crabs masquerading as humans.

Beeswax
Dec 29, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Regy Rusty posted:

destroying the earth once and for all

We couldn't do that even if we (explicitly rather than implicitly) tried

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

FreudianSlippers posted:

Most memes are created by crabs.

43.2% of internet users are crabs masquerading as humans.

:yeeclaw:

Boner M
Sep 21, 2021

by Hand Knit
https://i.imgur.com/lPjsZjU.mp4

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


FreudianSlippers posted:

Most memes are created by crabs.

43.2% of internet users are crabs masquerading as humans.

That's just the evolutionary pressure of carcinization at work

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




Same link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwDtDPMxq4

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Mr. Lobe posted:

That's just the evolutionary pressure of carcinization at work



Reminds me of the Krebs Cycle in respiration


Krebs, of course, being German for crab :yeeclaw:

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Reject Carcinization

Become Octopus

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Captain Splendid posted:

Reminds me of the Krebs Cycle in respiration


Yes. :thejoke:

Golden Dragon
Apr 9, 2007

Always speak politely to an enraged Dragon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/137312237265092608/893163780807204914/Wake_Me_Up_When_September_Ends.mp4

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

:bisonyes:

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

https://files.catbox.moe/wv0l4q.mp4

repiv has a new favorite as of 18:05 on Sep 30, 2021

Dale-Taco
Feb 19, 2009


:captainpop:

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.

Yowza that's a spicy meatball!

I love it.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

LMAO

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
It wasn't lost!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keKbt3dyXhA

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009




:drat:

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Zzulu posted:

What is the interest rate on american student loans? I know a lot of people get "student loans" here in Sweden as well (CSN lån etc) but I rarely hear people bemoan it here. I think the interest rate on a swedish student loan is around 0,05%

I took out a $30000 loan to go to a public school and only have $50000 left to pay off.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

:italy: Glory to Italia! :italy:

Ayy!! This text is-a the color of marinara! Ohhhh!! Dat's amore!!

Bismuth posted:

Depends on if its private or federal. iirc the federal ones are like 3-6% and the private can be upwards of 15%, and there are fees that are also a percentage

And you'll be happy to know grad loans can be another 3-5% on top of that. It's been more responsible for me to pay my student loans for interest avoidance than my credit union credit card.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

The University of Iceland requires a "registration fee" of about 600 bucks per year but if you're in a union (almost everyone is) and fill out a few papers the union will repay you anywhere between 25% and 90% of the registration fee depending on the size of the union and what field you're trying to study. A teacher's union will reimburse you more if you're studying something teaching related, or something related to whatever you're teaching, and less for studying something unrelated and so on and so forth

But that's the state run university the other private universities cost a lot more and unions pay less of the their tuition back meaning unless you have rich parents you probably need to get a student loan which pays the tuition and provides just about enough money per year to scrape by, assuming you're eating noodles everyday and live in cheap student accommodation or with your parents otherwise it's not enough, if you work alongside school they decrease your money and if you do more then a couple months minimum wage per year they cut you off entirely.

Bad by Nordic standards but hey at least it isn't as bad as America.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

In California prior to the 1970s there was no tuition for California residents attending a state higher education institution, which includes everything from a city college vocational school to Berkeley or UCLA.

From the 70s to the early 90s (thanks, Reagan, you gently caress!) there was tuition, but it was still a pittance. I did the math once and you could indeed pay for a year of college by working a part-time summer job like the boomers are always saying -- 20 hours a week at minimum wage for 3 months would do it.

Now of course it's ridiculous; while a California resident will "only" have to pay about 12k a year for Berkeley, that's still a year of full-time minimum wage and that's loving unconscionable. (and an out-of-state student will pay nearly four times as much lmao)

It's always been pulling up ladders all along

Sagebrush has a new favorite as of 19:53 on Sep 30, 2021

Dungeon Ecology
Feb 9, 2011

i'll thank you not to laugh at me for being born into a debtor's prison tyvm

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

rodbeard posted:

I took out a $30000 loan to go to a public school and only have $50000 left to pay off.

I'm jealous of that strawman

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Did you guys ever consider having rich parents?

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

zoux posted:

Did you guys ever consider having rich parents?

Yeah but it was too late

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