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Toshimo posted:That's because "the Internet" doesn't like to take responsibility for their actions. have u tried valium
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https://youtu.be/ZsCydQKqJmk You can go infinite in Standard using the new Teferi
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Toshimo posted:That's because "the Internet" doesn't like to take responsibility for their actions.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 10:39 |
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it certainly isnt what i wanted thats for sure
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Captain Invictus posted:is this the kind of whining that guy upthread wanted Yes but im not a guy
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thetoughestbean posted:https://youtu.be/ZsCydQKqJmk I wanted to see what the combo was but holy gently caress that streamer is unbearable.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 11:57 |
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Heh this is my big problem with MTGgoldfish - they seem like decent guys and I mostly agree with their points, but I don't think there is one person on that channel that does not somehow irk me with their manner of speaking
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 12:00 |
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Seth's weird way of speaking has gotten worse
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 12:23 |
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If you turn it up to 2x speed it sounds like he's speaking at a normal pace.
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Toshimo posted:That's because "the Internet" doesn't like to take responsibility for their actions. brutal takedown of all the people in this thread claiming to be robin hood
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What's a good way to get up to date on Modern? I'm thinking of going to the Vegas GP (or whatever it's called now) and whilst I might do the Crimson Vow sealed (sealed's not the best but I'd be playing the set a week early) I think I'm going to at least try the Modern event. Is Griefblade a Thing? I got some of the MH2 cards but I'd need to get Stoneforges. I can also do Vampires which might not be top tier but I have affinity for the tribe and enjoy it, plus it can sometimes just be so explosive as to be unbeatable. I should probably hop back to MTGO (I've played Arena pretty exclusively over the pandemic) and rent decks for leagues but I'd then need to source the cards in paper PDQ.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 13:29 |
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When you play with a counterfeit card, you're playing with everyone who's ever played that card before.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:When you play with a counterfeit card, you're playing with everyone who's ever played that card before.
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Froghammer posted:You wouldn't proxy a car DON'T PROXY THAT MOXY
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Lone Goat posted:DON'T PROXY THAT MOXY Lol
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BizarroAzrael posted:What's a good way to get up to date on Modern? I'm thinking of going to the Vegas GP (or whatever it's called now) and whilst I might do the Crimson Vow sealed (sealed's not the best but I'd be playing the set a week early) I think I'm going to at least try the Modern event. Is Griefblade a Thing? I got some of the MH2 cards but I'd need to get Stoneforges. I can also do Vampires which might not be top tier but I have affinity for the tribe and enjoy it, plus it can sometimes just be so explosive as to be unbeatable. To get up to date I would watch some streamers. During the day (american time) Aspiring Spike exclusively plays modern and he's pretty good at it. He's a brewer, and because he's got 1500 viewers the MTGO meta tends to follow him. He streams from 9-2 CST. Then I would find another streamer streaming modern and watch them a bit in the evening. You could also just go to twitch and search for the deck you plan to play and watch someone else playing it and see what they encountered. Griefblade is commonly called "Sewer", which refers to all these BW grief/efemerate archetypes. I think right now they're on a persist/reanimator package along with the SFM. They're OK. Since you're playing a paper event I would recommend finding a paper venue. MTGO handles a lot of the nuance and timing (like setting stops) that you can only remember in paper by playing paper.
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Just to address the angry post seriously, I don't think anyone's suggesting people should replace their whole decks with proxies and never pay for cards again. But blowing up a bubble of artificial scarcity with reserved list poo poo from decades ago has nothing to do with supporting the artists, so if someone wants to proxy a Taiga, good for them. Obviously there's a huge middle ground between that and running proxy commons, and I think a lot of reasonable people could disagree about when exactly it's cool to do and when it isn't, but fortunately this isn't D&D so we don't have to have that argument.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 14:45 |
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I don't play paper MTG these days so I have no particular skin in the game, but in a world where a single revised dual land costs as much as a PS5 I don't begrudge anyone wanting to proxy a couple tropical islands
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 14:47 |
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Pablo Nergigante posted:I don't play paper MTG these days so I have no particular skin in the game, but in a world where a single revised dual land costs as much as a PS5 I don't begrudge anyone wanting to proxy a couple tropical islands To what end? To play in dead rear end Legacy tournaments? If the format is unsustainable without counterfeits, just let it die and teach WotC the lesson it needs to learn.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 14:52 |
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Lol
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 14:55 |
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Wizards won't care at all if Legacy dies.
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Toshimo posted:To what end? To play in dead rear end Legacy tournaments? If the format is unsustainable without counterfeits, just let it die and teach WotC the lesson it needs to learn. What lesson. If the format dies literally the only ones being hurt are people who want to play it
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 14:59 |
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If anything, the death of Reserve List formats has taught them that if they let old stuff go, players will mostly just move on to where the action is. And they're better off as a company having those players focused on formats they can still meaningfully monetize.
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hahaha
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Toshimo posted:To what end? To play in dead rear end Legacy tournaments? If the format is unsustainable without counterfeits, just let it die and teach WotC the lesson it needs to learn. don't know why people keep calling legacy dead. there are a bunch of legacy tournaments with no proxies, and even more with. people want to play legacy
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Toshimo posted:To what end? To play in dead rear end Legacy tournaments? If the format is unsustainable without counterfeits, just let it die and teach WotC the lesson it needs to learn. Probably the end of playing with the cards tbh. Even if you're not trying to rip someone off there's a lot of value in playing with cards that look/feel like real Magic cards while in a sleeve, especially if you think you're going to get deck checked. I think you, me and the thread are in total agreement that anyone who tries to trade/sell proxies/counterfeits/fakes/whatever is a piece of poo poo. I'm not going to play any of my counterfeits anywhere I could get deck checked any time soon so mine all either have a different MPC card back or a sharpie on the back that shows it is not a real magic card, and I have to assume most people in this thread who use fakes in tournaments have some method of differentiating them from real cards too. fadam fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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Toshimo posted:That's because "the Internet" doesn't like to take responsibility for their actions. WotC will move plenty of 80 dollar monkes without me, Toshimo They do not need my cash
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 15:38 |
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Every time a kid somewhere sits down to play commander with a chinese proxy dual land instead of doing without, an improvement to the game as been made, not the other way around.
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Say that I want to build a powered cube in paper to play with folk. Wizards is not and will not be selling me such a product outside of MTGO. They've left a niche available and The Market is correcting this mistake. This is not the fault of the printers or the consumers of the product, but of the Rights holder not seizing the opportunity.
Shabadu fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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A proxy revolution seems like a great way to incentivize WoTC to bring back organized play.
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I'm going to get rich and buy every single magic card and burn them all in a great bonfire and then we'll all be finally free of this curse
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Shabadu posted:Say that I want to build a powered cube in paper to play with folk. Wizards is not and will not be selling me such a product outside of MTGO. They've left a niche available and The Market is correcting this mistake. This is not the fault of the printers or the consumers of the product, but of the Rights holder not seizing the opportunity. Why does your cube need to be functionally indistinguishable from authentic? What harm is there to your cube to have cards that can't be mistaken for real by the average person? Are you worried that people will think less of your cube?
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 15:53 |
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Shabadu posted:Say that I want to build a powered cube in paper to play with folk. Wizards is not and will not be selling me such a product outside of MTGO. They've left a niche available and The Market is correcting this mistake. This is not the fault of the printers or the consumers of the product, but of the Rights holder not seizing the opportunity. I think this is one of the main drivers for people who don't have a robust vintage/legacy local scene. I just want to play with paper power just to see what that feels like. I would pay for a silver/gold/whatever non legal border set of 'power cube' released by wiz. Alas...
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Sickening posted:Every time a kid somewhere sits down to play commander with a chinese proxy dual land instead of doing without, an improvement to the game as been made, not the other way around. Proxy ok, counterfeit less ok
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 16:27 |
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People have been clamoring for a gold bordered Vintage Cube for years but wotc won't or can't do it because I'm pretty sure the RL extends to gold/silver borders as well
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Silhouette posted:People have been clamoring for a gold bordered Vintage Cube for years but wotc won't or can't do it because I'm pretty sure the RL extends to gold/silver borders as well It does not. quote:Current definition
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As much as I shrug off the RL as a lost cause at this point, it still amuses me that gold bordered cards are affected by it when they're not legal in any format (even commander). They're literally WotC-sanctioned proxies that they could and would still make money off of without affecting any competitive metagame (or collector value, for the hand-wringing RL defenders) but still allowing casual and kitchen table players to have "official" copies, if having self-made proxies isn't kosher with them.
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# ? Sep 30, 2021 16:36 |
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I feel like they don't print gold border just because they want people to forget about the reserve list as much as possible instead of opening the can of worms up and having more people want legal versions next. On the flip side, I think they've also decided that having super expensive cards from the game's past is a good thing that makes people want to buy current product even though the same conditions no longer apply. If the reserve list didn't exist, I'm not totally convinced that Wizards wouldn't find a way to create it even now.
Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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i think it's more likely that the WotC corporate lawyer they need to talk to to do any of this stuff is an rear end in a top hat so they don't try
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