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wocobob
Jan 7, 2014

damages enemies w/ corn

Electric Phantasm posted:

There was a glitch found during the fight and instead of taking it out they named it "funnycheat" within the game files and it now tracks when you do it and it causes this to happen:

https://youtu.be/IU3U0yrO4hA

god that’s so much funnier than i thought

also question for everyone: if I want to go back and get jevil’s crystal in my chapter 2 save after not beating him my first time through, what steps do i need to take? do I need to create a new save, go through and do it, then find it in the item hole? do I need to beat chapter 1 as well?

e: terrible snipe sorry

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Ash Rose
Sep 3, 2011

Where is Megaman?

In queer, with us!
https://twitter.com/TorchicZk/status/1443246898962436101

DanielCross
Aug 16, 2013

Neat that they're actually going to acknowledge Violence Playthroughs of Chapter 1 now, even if just a single line of dialogue.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

DanielCross posted:

Neat that they're actually going to acknowledge Violence Playthroughs of Chapter 1 now, even if just a single line of dialogue.

Technically the original version acknowledges it slightly as well. If you talk to the king during the epilogue at the end of a Violence playthrough in Chapter 2 he’ll say something along the lines of “You left them (the denizens of Cyber World) behind didn’t you…just like you did to us”.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Sep 30, 2021

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Larryb posted:

Technically the original version acknowledges it slightly as well. If you talk to the king during the epilogue at the end of a Violence playthrough he’ll say something along the lines of “You left them (the denizens of Cyber World) behind didn’t you…just like you did to us”.

That's for a violence playthrough of chapter 2 though - there's a fair bit of reactivity in the epilogue depending on how many people you recruited, including none. Chapter 1 didn't have the recruit system so chapter 2 starts with you bringing everyone regardless.

I wonder if they're going to back-port any of the improvements from chapter 2 (or later?) to chapter 1 at any point. Like the storage system or the mercy meter.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Music talk, having now done both both bonus fights, I think I like BIG SHOT a touch more than The World Revolving.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
https://twitter.com/gappyshamp/status/1443282959923023879
https://twitter.com/MuzYoshi/status/1443217976690348036
https://twitter.com/TheVirtual_Boy/status/1443229285863489544

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

AngryRobotsInc posted:

Music talk, having now done both both bonus fights, I think I like BIG SHOT a touch more than The World Revolving.

Big Shot has The World Revolving mixed with Power of NEO so it's like The World Revolving+

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Here's the updated Lancer dialogue, the video starts off with the regular dialogue btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJ3kcAV0Xo

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Electric Phantasm posted:

Here's the updated Lancer dialogue, the video starts off with the regular dialogue btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJ3kcAV0Xo

New home, old home. Hmm.

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
I’m glad the game acknowledges a violent chapter one now, having complained about it earlier :V

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

ikanreed posted:

New home, old home. Hmm.

Lancer is great, but he's pretty lousy with names?

I don't know what to think, though. Does the Dark World process create Darkners with a history even if they were "born yesterday"? Or do the Dark Worlds actually exist but, without a fountain, Lightners can't go there?

Darkners' dependence on their fountain leans things to the "invented history" side, especially because things like Berdly and Noelle's books (and presumably Noelle's portable game system, though she might have snagged it from home before going to hospital ) aren't showing up as statued Darkners, they're just not there at all.

But for all that, Seam and Jevil and Spamton seem to have experienced a deeper history.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Glazius posted:

Lancer is great, but he's pretty lousy with names?

I don't know what to think, though. Does the Dark World process create Darkners with a history even if they were "born yesterday"? Or do the Dark Worlds actually exist but, without a fountain, Lightners can't go there?

Darkners' dependence on their fountain leans things to the "invented history" side, especially because things like Berdly and Noelle's books (and presumably Noelle's portable game system, though she might have snagged it from home before going to hospital ) aren't showing up as statued Darkners, they're just not there at all.

But for all that, Seam and Jevil and Spamton seem to have experienced a deeper history.

There's also some implied history between King and Queen. Also also some of the Darkners talk about both of them being okay until their respective fountains opened up.

Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

Well Manicured Mort
Maybe all potential dark worlds already exist, but they don't become accessible to lighteners until a new dark fountain in the corresponding area opens up.

Snake Maze
Jul 13, 2016

3.85 Billion years ago
  • Having seen the explosion on the moon, the Devil comes to Venus
The fact that you gather up the junk and bring it over to Ralsei's world instead of just letting them live in peace in their home world would suggest that the dark worlds don't exist without a fountain. But that would imply that any histories the inhabitants have are retroactive.

Nostalgamus
Sep 28, 2010

That reminds me: Do you steal all the computers at the end of chapter 2? It says you picked up everything in the room...

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012
College Slice
A decent number of people seem to think the description of the closet door ("Big enough to fit a medium-sized person") is a nod to the B-Side route. I'm pretty sure it's there to imply that the Knight was hiding in there, opened a fountain without Noelle and Birdley seeing them, then escaped before everybody else woke up. At least it's there for the possibility.

Nostalgamus posted:

That reminds me: Do you steal all the computers at the end of chapter 2? It says you picked up everything in the room...

I've seen fanart of this exact thing, it's a good mental image. Most of the enemies represented software so maybe it was as easy as a USB drive filled with ancient malware :v:

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Nostalgamus posted:

That reminds me: Do you steal all the computers at the end of chapter 2? It says you picked up everything in the room...

https://twitter.com/NightMargin/status/1442287584319717380


HellCopter posted:

A decent number of people seem to think the description of the closet door ("Big enough to fit a medium-sized person") is a nod to the B-Side route. I'm pretty sure it's there to imply that the Knight was hiding in there, opened a fountain without Noelle and Birdley seeing them, then escaped before everybody else woke up. At least it's there for the possibility.

Someone noted earlier in the thread that Noelle and Berdly have their study books out on the table when you wake up - implying they had set up in the computer room before entering the dark world.
Also my playthrough described it as big enough for a large person, oddly.

Tenebrais fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Sep 30, 2021

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
I don't know where the "medium-sized" person thing came from, because there's only one I can find:

quote:

* (The closet is spacious and full of old electronics.)/
* (A large person could easily fit inside.)/%

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

The Dark World is the land of fantasy and make believe so it both has been recently created and always existed because of course you're going to imagine a backstory for your games once you come up with them.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Chapter 7 spoilers

https://twitter.com/Harper6202/status/1442849042350870540

life_source
May 11, 2008

i got tired of looking at your edgy baby avatar that a 14-year old would be proud of
wjhat the fuuuuuuuuuuk

https://twitter.com/sphrog/status/1443607245435068419

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

:pusheen:

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD
:dukedog:

:fourballs: :monocle:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
https://twitter.com/RicksWriting/status/1443409449679523840

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



wellp, I was looking for something unrelated and found something new. The weird thing is this doesn't exist in my current end-game saves. I had to load a save before the last queen fight and to defeat her, at least after this recent patch. Now in the "real" world I have a third item, glass. When you INFO it, you get "There is a small shard of something in your pocket \\ It feels like glass, but..." I'm not sure if this is referencing beating all of the bosses, but I already had a save in the end game after beating them and I don't have it there. You can use the glass and you get a few different messages; when you're alone in the library after waking up :

You looked through the glass.
For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . .
You thought you saw through your hand.

Afterwards, you get a different message if you're with Susie:

You looked through the glass.
For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . .
You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly. . .
But when you moved the glass away,
You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.

I thought it might have been referencing the stuff you bundled up in the library, but no, it's still there after you drop queen off. It's not in any of my prior saves with the same completion! (full recruit, safe Berdly, 2 defeated secret bosses)

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
Really hoping this is the endgame team.

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh

kaleedity posted:

wellp, I was looking for something unrelated and found something new. The weird thing is this doesn't exist in my current end-game saves. I had to load a save before the last queen fight and to defeat her, at least after this recent patch. Now in the "real" world I have a third item, glass. When you INFO it, you get "There is a small shard of something in your pocket \\ It feels like glass, but..." I'm not sure if this is referencing beating all of the bosses, but I already had a save in the end game after beating them and I don't have it there. You can use the glass and you get a few different messages; when you're alone in the library after waking up :

You looked through the glass.
For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . .
You thought you saw through your hand.

Afterwards, you get a different message if you're with Susie:

You looked through the glass.
For some strange reason, for just a brief moment. . .
You thought you saw Susie glaring at you, coldly. . .
But when you moved the glass away,
You see her looking at you, smiling and making a rude gesture.

I thought it might have been referencing the stuff you bundled up in the library, but no, it's still there after you drop queen off. It's not in any of my prior saves with the same completion! (full recruit, safe Berdly, 2 defeated secret bosses)


It's the shadow crystal from beating spamton, I think it was patched in

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



dyzzy posted:

It's the shadow crystal from beating spamton, I think it was patched in

that would make sense but it's just weird it's not in the save with the same state, saved later.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

https://twitter.com/loversconfidant/status/1443435573008547848

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Dr Pepper posted:

The Dark World is the land of fantasy and make believe so it both has been recently created and always existed because of course you're going to imagine a backstory for your games once you come up with them.

It's an animist thing and they're the kami of the objects, the dark fountains just alter the conditions of their world to make it accessible and comprehensible to Lightners


Okay I thought this meme was starting to be played out but god drat

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

kaleedity posted:

that would make sense but it's just weird it's not in the save with the same state, saved later.

Did you talk to Seam in that save? He takes them if you talk to him.

Ash Rose
Sep 3, 2011

Where is Megaman?

In queer, with us!
https://twitter.com/Box_Enjoyer/status/1443583802249342977

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

https://twitter.com/Dr_Angel_23/status/1443319216829046801

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

OK, this meme started out funny, got stale fast, and now it's looped back round to greatness.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

pumpinglemma posted:

OK, this meme started out funny, got stale fast, and now it's looped back round to greatness.

The quick c/p versions of the meme made it stale, followed by people putting in some effort and producing quality.

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



Electric Phantasm posted:

Did you talk to Seam in that save? He takes them if you talk to him.

yep that's what it is. That's a strange interaction. hmmmmm.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


Hey how long has this part of the official website existed?

https://undertale.com/alarmclock/

Cause it's news to me. And lore for us???

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goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Nyoro posted:

Hey how long has this part of the official website existed?

https://undertale.com/alarmclock/

Cause it's news to me. And lore for us???

Oh for years now

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