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Everything's on fire and the Nazis are re-assembling. I can't give a gently caress about kids vaping. I mean, I don't normally, but especially not now, or in the future. Or in the past. At any point, really.
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Discendo Vox posted:At root it's because Congress assigned authority to FDA (and a lot of people at both agencies were pissed about it at the time, as it introduced difficult tensions in the FDA mission that haven't been fully resolved). It was designed that way because it was co-written with Phillip Morris which is exactly who you want writing laws about tobacco control. They knew the FDA wasn't equipped to deal with it. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/business/01tobacco.html
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Sep 30, 2021 21:27
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Wonder what's happening behind the scenes now. https://twitter.com/WRAL/status/1443671747040096257?s=20
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Sep 30, 2021 21:30
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Okay guys, this is a lot of good chat around the FDA, Drugs, and Smoking in general, might be time to consider a thread for it so we can return to USNews.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:30
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mawarannahr posted:If they’ve gone down the route of synthetic nicotine analogs to avoid regulatory oversight, they’re basically giving young people research chemicals (usually, these are chemicals with little research on them, especially in humans). The effects of tobacco and its derivatives are well known at this point, and nicotine vapes have been popular for at least a decade now. I think its unlikely we know much about the effects of synthetic alternatives in younger adults, especially any longer term effects. That’s concerning. They are not using synthetic nicotine. I spent 2+ years working with vaping people, the reason people looked into synthetic nicotine (expensive) in the first place was to get around all the FDA regs that said Tobacco and not Nicotine. FWIW: There’s $5000 worth of synthetic nicotine in a warehouse that my former employer doesn’t even care about. I worked in CBD, testing and research and this was a no-heat device. Can’t say more than that..
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Sep 30, 2021 21:31
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:We've been joking about Sinema and Manchin getting jealous of the attention each one gets, but other Congresspeople are legitimately mad at the attention they are getting. Khanna is such a cynical snake that it's very funny to me seeing him moan about poo poo like this
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Sep 30, 2021 21:35
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https://twitter.com/AFLCIO/status/1443654542176964617?s=19 The AFL-CIO continuing to be useless or worse
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Sep 30, 2021 21:35
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Under Obama in 2009 they passed the Tobacco Control Act, which gave the FDA fairly broad authority to regulate tobacco. The FDA had previously been subject to lawsuits limiting its authority over tobacco. Discendo Vox posted:At root it's because Congress assigned authority to FDA (and a lot of people at both agencies were pissed about it at the time, as it introduced difficult tensions in the FDA mission that haven't been fully resolved). Thanks y'all
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Sep 30, 2021 21:37
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Khanna is such a cynical snake that it's very funny to me seeing him moan about poo poo like this The quote in the tweet left out the part that he was pissed because she as a first-term Senator was refusing to negotiate or tell anyone what she wants, so less about her getting attention and more about how she's tanking an entire political party in her first-term.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:38
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Bugsy posted:A very fine typo, and gently caress off ted. A coworker once told me he preferred Cruz over Trump because Cruz was principled. I had to bite my tongue.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:40
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Thom12255 posted:The quote in the tweet left out the part that he was pissed because she as a first-term Senator was refusing to negotiate or tell anyone what she wants, so less about her getting attention and more about how she's tanking an entire political party in her first-term. Cool that changes nothing and it's still funny
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Sep 30, 2021 21:47
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rscott posted:https://twitter.com/AFLCIO/status/1443654542176964617?s=19 There was never a scenario where the AFL-CIO was going to recommend voting against 1.2 trillion dollars in construction projects for union labor. Their job is to advocate financially for their members.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:48
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zoux posted:Why is everyone freaking out about kids vaping, it's better than them smoking. (Though I smoked in high school because I was a badass). Making it transgressive is what makes it cool, it sure aint the robot-dick-sucking aesthetic. Maybe it has something to do with that Nicotine is, quite literally, more addictive than heroin? It seems like maybe we should prevent our children from imparting on a life long habit that costs them money, negatively affects their health and provides no real benefit? The alternative isn't , "LOL, well here smoke a butt instead."
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Biden brand icecream at the congressional ball game: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1443367867425173510/photo/1 It's very strange for me, because my only experience of Dove bars are a brand of soap: 
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Sep 30, 2021 21:51
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VideoGameVet posted:They are not using synthetic nicotine. It sounds like there are vendors using synthetic nicotine, according to this paper. FWIW, it points out that only Puffbar marketing has claimed they use synthetic but nobody has verified that. https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2021/09/07/tobaccocontrol-2021-056626 posted:
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Darkrenown posted:Biden brand icecream at the congressional ball game: what do you think is getting dipped in chocolate there?
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Sep 30, 2021 22:02
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:There was never a scenario where the AFL-CIO was going to recommend voting against 1.2 trillion dollars in construction projects for union labor. It's not like zero dollars of the BBB plan is going to union labor either though and if the reconciliation bill passes they get their construction money anyways. It's super counter productive but I suppose it's inevitable for trade unions to throw the rest of the working class under the bus if it means they get theirs
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rscott posted:It's not like zero dollars of the BBB plan is going to union labor either though and if the reconciliation bill passes they get their construction money anyways. It's super counter productive but I suppose it's inevitable for trade unions to throw the rest of the working class under the bus if it means they get theirs Agreed. But, they probably looked at like this: - If Manchin or Sinema want to kill the recon bill, then they're gonna kill it regardless. - Might as well get our $1.2 trillion (which is a huge amount of money) of federal construction projects that are required to use union labor and pay prevailing wages under Davis-Bacon. - It might make the recon bill slightly less likely to pass, but if Sinema was gonna kill it, then she was gonna kill it, and we shouldn't throw that huge amount of money away in exchange for a slightly better chance that the broader left-wing social agenda succeeds. Corporate tax increases, child tax credits, tripling the earned income tax credit, universal preschool, and community college are great, but those aren't putting money in most of the AFL-CIO members' pockets. They also did make sure to do an obligatory "but we also need to pass the recon bill" addendum to their endorsement: https://twitter.com/AFLCIO/status/1443654991995146240
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Sorry if this goes against thread rules, but this is US new related and I'm on a clock. I’ll take the probe or whatever. I’m trying to help an Afghan family apply for Humanitarian parole to the US while their visa applications complete. The head of the family briefly worked for the US as a translator, but is currently in danger because of him having a shop on a NATO controlled post in Kabul between 2015 and the fall of the city in August. His shop and home was looted and he’s currently bouncing from house to house, staying with various friends and family trying to avoid groups looking for collaborators or people that just did business with Coalition forces, so this is a time sensitive thing we’re trying to do. I’ve gotten pretty much everything they need together, but I’m still trying to find them someone willing to volunteer to make sure they will not become a public charge on coming to the US via an I-134 Form. I would do it, but I’m already sponsoring an Afghan family of 5 and I’m worried about taking on more before their parole application in approved. If this is something that you would consider doing then please send me a PM. More than ne person can do this and that would probably be preferred to spread out the load if the family actually needed help after arriving. There isn’t a guarantee that any financial help would be needed and the next step to having the parole package approved would be to get in contact with charities in the US to set up a place and means for the family to live so there is a good chance that they would have it covered. That said this is a signed form that will legally obligate you to provide financial support if needed so don’t volunteer if you aren’t sure you can afford it.
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-Zydeco- posted:Sorry if this goes against thread rules, but this is US new related and I'm on a clock. I’ll take the probe or whatever. I will throw this into a pinned post for a week or so, hopefully that can help you get some outreach.
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Darkrenown posted:Biden brand icecream at the congressional ball game:  I'm sure it's delicious
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https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1443594975191736326 The craziest and stupidest part of this whole (extremely crazy and stupid) process, is that there is all this focus on the topline number, but we have somehow gone weeks without a clear picture of what provisions are actually in danger or secure. The topline number is important, but it doesn't really tell you what the bill looks like and what its impact will be. If they completely folded down to Sinema's $2 trillion, then they could: - Reduce the duration of all the benefits from 10 years to 5 and 8 to 4. But, keep all of the total benefits intact. or, they could: - Cut all the Medicare changes, cut the universal preschool and community college, cut the child tax credits by 20%, and cut the funding for the new elder care/assisted living program. But, keep all of the original durations and no cuts at all to the other benefits. Both of those bills would be ~$2 trillion, but they would result in very different short- and long-term outcomes! But, we have no idea which direction - or maybe neither of those directions! - they are leaning towards. Just saying a top-line number without priorities and hard lines tells you nothing about what the actual outcome will be. And all of this is self-inflicted by two specific people who have somehow gone more than a month without making a concrete demand. The House moderates at least put their bad ideas out there to be dealt with. And even they are now begging Sinema and Manchin to demand something specific.
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Darkrenown posted:Biden brand icecream at the congressional ball game: It's a completely corporately unrelated brand of chocolate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_(chocolate)
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https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1443683249751052297?s=19 Lmao. Just being in the same room as somebody questioning Israel is now toxic to your political career.
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Harris has been very invisible to anything important for months lol.
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Sep 30, 2021 22:28
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Thom12255 posted:Harris has been very invisible to anything important for months lol. Biden seems to have boxed her off pretty good alright. Cheney must just look at that poo poo and shake his head
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Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1443683249751052297?s=19
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Failed Imagineer posted:Biden seems to have boxed her off pretty good alright. Cheney must just look at that poo poo and shake his head Literally all I have heard about her the past 2 months has been Veep-level mess ups.
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CommieGIR posted:I will throw this into a pinned post for a week or so, hopefully that can help you get some outreach. Thanks
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Thom12255 posted:Literally all I have heard about her the past 2 months has been Veep-level mess ups. I laughed hard at the recent Chapo bit of Biden deliberately setting her up to go to Vietnam and get Havana Syndrome'd
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1443594975191736326 Almost every Democrat is on board with the bill as a whole, but I imagine a lot of those Democrats give different priorities to different parts of it. Arguing whose baby gets left behind doesn't really serve anyone interested in passing the whole bill at this point, especially when the holdouts aren't actually fingering specific dislikes anyway.
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Thom12255 posted:Literally all I have heard about her the past 2 months has been Veep-level mess ups. It’s a good thing Biden isn’t one insanely contagious virus away from death. Also wasn’t she supposed to do something about the borders or immigration or whatever when images that looked like they came straight from the 1800s slave trade surfaced?
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:It’s a good thing Biden isn’t one insanely contagious virus away from death. https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-lead-migrant-crisis-response-joe-biden-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9 She’s supposed to be working on forming a coherent migration policy.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Biden seems to have boxed her off pretty good alright. Cheney must just look at that poo poo and shake his head Trump neutered the poo poo out of the VPO in order to make sure Pence was a compliant, powerless Waylon Smithers to his Monty Burns, and Biden's reaping the benefits of that in spades.
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Harris was there to add some flavor to the ticket, and test the waters to see if she was viable as a national candidate/potential successor. Purpose 1 is completed, and she's failed pretty miserably at 2 so far, so they're keeping her behind the scenes.
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Morrow posted:Harris was there to add some flavor to the ticket, and test the waters to see if she was viable as a national candidate/potential successor. Sounds like a typical VP then.
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I just don't see how she has much of a future political career. Nobody likes her, and despite having a ton of money and at least some support going into the 2020 primaries she had to drop out before the votes even started. Which is not normal.
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Thom12255 posted:Literally all I have heard about her the past 2 months has been Veep-level mess ups. Isn't her not pushing back against this kind of statement a good thing? I certainly think so. I'd also expect her office to call those groups and talk it down, but if her initial reaction to "Israel is committing genocide" is anything other than instant denial and/or condemnation, it only makes me think more of her.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I just don't see how she has much of a future political career. Nobody likes her, and despite having a ton of money and at least some support going into the 2020 primaries she had to drop out before the votes even started. Which is not normal. She's got worse political instincts than Warren and that's saying something
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