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The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
look here's the very simple roadmap:

1) as with any great plan, fully automated gay luxury space communism. done? good, okay, next

2) build a dyson swarm, easy peasy

3) use the incredible energy harnessed to make a kugelblitz

4) okay now make a second kugelblitz

the last step came to me in a dream. take the two artificial collapsars and, very carefully, put them into a tight binary orbit

adjust the orbit to taste and now you have a region of S-T betwixt them that you can warp almost arbitrarily

finally, shoot cool stuff like probes and whatnot into the dark wompy ring you've created and see what happens/where it goes??

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D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

I was at a comedy thing and Joe Rogan did a Q&A. I asked him what all his UFO guests say when the mics are off. He got pretty serious and said "every one of them strongly implies that the government has bodies."

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


D-Pad posted:

I was at a comedy thing and Joe Rogan did a Q&A. I asked him what all his UFO guests say when the mics are off. He got pretty serious and said "every one of them strongly implies that the government has bodies."

gotta give joe some opsec credit: this is exactly what everyone would expect him to say whether it's true or not

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

D-Pad posted:

I was at a comedy thing and Joe Rogan did a Q&A. I asked him what all his UFO guests say when the mics are off. He got pretty serious and said "every one of them strongly implies that the government has bodies."

That's a great question and great answer. When it comes down to it, these guys are as corporeal as us probably. They may be able to travel across distance using hyperspace fuckery but who the hell alien isn't going to want to fly around earth checking things out. You're more likely to die in a plane crash than down your uap anyway.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Jazerus posted:

gotta give joe some opsec credit: this is exactly what everyone would expect him to say whether it's true or not

The beauty of the ufo phenomena is its conspiracy theories have evolved for so long that all parties involved want the same thing.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

The Protagonist posted:

there's even an observed precedent in known physics! one hypothetical put forth to explain q-entanglement is, and i love this phrase,

hyperdimensional co-locality :science:

Yeah my area of study is physics and I honestly believe that most 'aliens' that are likely to exist are extra dimensional.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Yeah my area of study is physics and I honestly believe that most 'aliens' that are likely to exist are extra dimensional.

Is that because of the distances involved? That makes sense, but in terms of life being "nearby" in cosmic terms, isn't the outlook more optimistic than it was before we could look at exoplanets?

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

more because we know now that we don’t know anything about the true nature of reality and that much of what’s being consistently reported on the UAP topic aligns more closely with weird dimensional or consciousness as a force bullshit than with the idea of aliens flying over in gravity drive ships

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Wheeee posted:

more because we know now that we don’t know anything about the true nature of reality and that much of what’s being consistently reported on the UAP topic aligns more closely with weird dimensional or consciousness as a force bullshit than with the idea of aliens flying over in gravity drive ships

hah, fair enough! i was thinking there was some physic-y answer that i might not otherwise learn about, but no disagreement (other than a layman's poorly informed optimism about some of the more recent developments in trying to make a workable Alcubierre drive)

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


why not both

i find it honestly silly to think that there isn't a civilization in the galaxy old enough to have sprinkled probes everywhere even if FTL is flat impossible. the dudes might not be here in person but there are enough sightings without any element of weirdness beyond "intelligent enough to respond to aircraft" and "impossible maneuvers" that it seems pretty likely we've got some purely mechanical birds hanging out. at the same time perhaps Ra and his sixth density peers are bouncing around on the psychic superhighway doing weird poo poo to people's minds. i think the burden of proof is higher for the latter than the former, but there's no reason they couldn't coexist

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Jazerus posted:

why not both

i find it honestly silly to think that there isn't a civilization in the galaxy old enough to have sprinkled probes everywhere even if FTL is flat impossible. the dudes might not be here in person but there are enough sightings without any element of weirdness beyond "intelligent enough to respond to aircraft" and "impossible maneuvers" that it seems pretty likely we've got some purely mechanical birds hanging out. at the same time perhaps Ra and his sixth density peers are bouncing around on the psychic superhighway doing weird poo poo to people's minds. i think the burden of proof is higher for the latter than the former, but there's no reason they couldn't coexist

have we considered that some birds may be yogis, or perhaps jewish mystics operating merkabah?

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



wow, growing the ships is an old sci fi idea and a cool one. Iain Banks' ships had the 'Minds' in them be grown. And allowed to be weird.

it opens up a whole heap more potential dead ends for a civ tho in that if you assume nazi/race issues are present elsewhere then that level of mastery over every tiny piece of every tiny cell could become an evolutionary dead end pretty easily if space Hitler got control for a bit. or old school Kingons.

i guess given that sort of control over stuff itd be p much impossible to talk on anything close to an even level with these guys. but fuckin cool as hell all the same. they wouldnt even understand disease anymore except as a historical note maybe.

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




let me tell ya, the one thought pattern you wanna avoid when contemplating these birds is "oh, i must be dying or in a coma and this is my subconscious manifesting Things That Aren't Possible into my reality in a desperate attempt to wake me up. none of this is real."

and certainly don't contemplate the existential dread of the impending biosphere collapse or unstoppable pandemic while you're having those thoughts

lol

lmao

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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they might be vulnerable to new diseases that are the result of dysfunctions in their extremely complex technology, I guess? or maybe conditions arising from loving up near strong radiation/gravity sources?

it's not like these guys are invincible if they can be caught off guard by the effects of a nuke and crash as a result

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




mods plz flag my previous post as a keter class cognitohazard

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


I have seen many sci fi shows and movies and every single time the plot involves living ships the show is maximum horny

my sample size is farscape and lexx so I look forward to our future alien friends being something like those shows

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


pancake rabbit posted:

mods plz flag my previous post as a keter class cognitohazard

minimizing existential terror is for cowards, start doing reality checks on your surroundings constantly to make sure ur not on a ventilator or in a meat coma

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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blatman posted:

I have seen many sci fi shows and movies and every single time the plot involves living ships the show is maximum horny

my sample size is farscape and lexx so I look forward to our future alien friends being something like those shows

wasn't the lexx a giant penis barely disguised as a dragonfly, with repeated visual gags involving docking it with other structures?

also TARDISes are grown

blatman
May 10, 2009

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Hodgepodge posted:

wasn't the lexx a giant penis barely disguised as a dragonfly, with repeated visual gags involving docking it with other structures?

also TARDISes are grown

yes lol

also i challenge you to find me one companion of the doctor who isn't smokin' like u left the noodles on the stove while taking a nap

Hodgepodge
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blatman posted:

yes lol

also i challenge you to find me one companion of the doctor who isn't smokin' like u left the noodles on the stove while taking a nap

yeah, but the Doctor is all about tease and flirting

i guess he eventually marries river song? i am honestly unsure if the doctor fucks, though. some of them probably.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


everything about doctor who is sort of weirdly psychosexual in an unsettling british fashion

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


pictured: declassified image of a man who fucks

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
bad wolf needs a spanking

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Hodgepodge posted:

they might be vulnerable to new diseases that are the result of dysfunctions in their extremely complex technology, I guess? or maybe conditions arising from loving up near strong radiation/gravity sources?

it's not like these guys are invincible if they can be caught off guard by the effects of a nuke and crash as a result

as a despicable IT QA guy id simply report back to the celluar guys their firewall is hosed and then do a half rear end job testing their viral anti virus or whatever containment protocols failed.

then id get hi and drone SOL-03 with my cat toy

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Jazerus posted:

everything about doctor who is sort of weirdly psychosexual in an unsettling british fashion

it's not quite what's going on with Sonic, but it still reminds me of this classic gem:

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

That's nothing more than the Hedgehog/Prower phenomenon of ostensibly adult characters engaged in prolonged and intense bouts of presexual intimacy.

FN and Poe - despite being twenty- and thirty-somethings, respectively - are several steps behind Matthew Broderick's teen hacker in Wargames, who tentatively explores how it feels to take his shirt off in front of a girl.

For fans, the actual erotic appeal comes from the fact that Sonic The Hedgehog does not gently caress. Ever. He achieves full satisfaction just by staring at you with his massive hypersensitive eyes, and passionately filling his rounded belly with chilidogs. Poe and FN, likewise, will never move beyond hugging and trying on eachothers' clothes. They have no need to.

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basically the "ostensibly adult characters engaged in prolonged and intense bouts of presexual intimacy" part is very much the Doctor's thing

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

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if you have soaked everywhere, at every point in space-time, can you ever gently caress again?

the universe sure is a mystery :allears:

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



i am a sucker for the idea that somewhere along the line there are actual personalities behind these UAPs. flying them in person or remotely.

its been pointed out before many times but it sticks in my head that the one adjective applicable to a lot of UAPs is 'playful'

and thats only been backed up the releases and cams we have seen. if u are mischievious at all surely you can see the mischief in what they have been documented to do.

romantic i know! i know

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
the probing part sure is pretty mischievous

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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The Protagonist posted:

the probing part sure is pretty mischievous

they just want to get to the bottom of the human condition

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

Pooky posted:

I have a hard time believing that distant future technology will be manufactured and not "grown" in some way instead. And we can't grow fake chicken breasts let alone a functioning set of lungs or a pair of legs. Good luck reversing a UAP that is grown layer by layer, atom by atom.

Coulthart has a bit in his book where a dude who specialises in some kinda advanced welding claims he was asked to look at a piece of metal at an air force base that appeared to be from some kind of craft. They wanted to know if he knew how it could have been built, and said he had no idea what method or technology was used because it was joined at an atomic level (or something like that). Think he repeated that story in that podcast interview last week if you wanna check it out.

blatman posted:

yes lol

also i challenge you to find me one companion of the doctor who isn't smokin' like u left the noodles on the stove while taking a nap

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Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

pancake rabbit posted:

let me tell ya, the one thought pattern you wanna avoid when contemplating these birds is "oh, i must be dying or in a coma and this is my subconscious manifesting Things That Aren't Possible into my reality in a desperate attempt to wake me up. none of this is real."


that's a neat thought to really let unfold inside your mind. fester on it and connect red yarn between all the moments and miseries of your life. it kinda makes sense!

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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thanks to creepypasta, i've been warned that i'm dying and or in a coma almost as many times as some smuck entity has tried to use the story to pass on its curse to me, only to be introduced to the part of my subconscious where i store goatse, lemonparty, two girls one cup, and fishmech posts.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
Lexx is loving awesome and I wish there was more scifi with that motif. If you want a guaranteed good time, watch Lexx season 2 (ONLY).

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster

Objurium posted:

Wanted to say thanks to whichever goon recommended Extra Dimensional Universe.

That was me, no thanks necessary, I’m just happy to turn people on to that book. Glad you like it.

Can’t even count the number of UFO/Bigfoot/NDE/etc. books I’ve read, but he pulled it all together in a way that no one else has (giving credit to those who paved the way). Brilliantly explains the entire field of paranormal phenomenon.

Makes a lot of sense to my monkey three-dimensional brain.

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know cells are capable of incredibly complex and precise developments that we, as a species, barely understand. But compared to the high energies, tolerances, and scale needed for even modern materials, let alone hypothetical gravity defying metamaterials, I'm skeptical that it would be a viable manufacturing method. it just seems like that's one of those ideas that comes up a lot in science fiction but doesn't really work.

Then again, nobody knows what birds are. maybe they're not even biologically constructed craft, but actual lifeforms. maybe navy pilots are playing with space whales. who the gently caress knows.

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

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Log082 posted:

Then again, nobody knows what birds are. maybe they're not even biologically constructed craft, but actual lifeforms. maybe navy pilots are playing with space whales. who the gently caress knows.

TBH if I was forced to make a guess on what they are it would be on space whales plus some extra-dimensional nonsense.

I'm almost certainly wrong though because even if you ignore all abduction/contact stories there are a lot of reports of UAPs having portholes or windows. Which obviously begs the question of why a space whale has window nipples or something.

Pooky has issued a correction as of 12:27 on Oct 1, 2021

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
I'm still in the "birds are von neumann probes" stage, at least when I discount abduction/contact stories, which for now I feel I have to remain much more ambivalent about, at least until harder evidence turns up

E which is not to say I don't find abduction/contact stories incredibly fascinating, because I do, and the sheer number of them - plus the weird mixture of consistency and wild variation between them - is notable. Even if it's just some sort of psychosis or delusional state that's still incredibly interesting, and must bespeak some sort of common intrinisic or external mechanism (or both)

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Like, John Mack's main reason for believing the abduction experience is a real thing (in the most literal sense) is "these people demonstrably have PTSD, something real and something highly distressing has happened to them"

But is it possible to give yourself PTSD? Absent external influences?

I guess it is?

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
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Barry Foster posted:

Like, John Mack's main reason for believing the abduction experience is a real thing (in the most literal sense) is "these people demonstrably have PTSD, something real and something highly distressing has happened to them"

But is it possible to give yourself PTSD? Absent external influences?

I guess it is?

not without somehow triggering the same adrenaline reaction as would be expected of a real traumatic event

i've never heard of psychsomatically induced ptsd. in most other contexts the idea would probably be offensive, which if the suggestion that abductees had ptsd were true, would be a pretty serious implication that we should be taking their experiences seriously.

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

I'd assume the right combo of substances and a panic attack could be pretty traumatic because I've had a few of those experiences but I don't know how you level the folks who are sober and in good mental standing.

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