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yeah back-up cams are required safety gear since like 2018, this is unacceptable for a "car company" for them to just not loving work en masse.
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I haven't researched this at all but I feel comfortable claiming that Tesla doesn't describe themself as a 'car company' which means they don't bother with 'automotive regulations' which exist only to hinder 'innovation'
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Sep 29, 2021 14:26
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Counterpoint - teslas still bad but ford also has all kinds of garbage issues with their backup camera modules and has had all kinds of sourcing issues getting replacement parts for their big recall program on new trucks and SUVs. #notjustateslaproblem Non-tesla terrible car stuff about my garbage barge coupe deville - at some point the previous owner took out the electric vacuum pump which probably explains why I have no cruise control and the brake pedal is stiff and weak. Will need to source some kind of replacement but the correct pumps seem few and far between. I'm wondering if I can retrofit a different vacuum pump and what that might entail. Suggestions?
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Sep 29, 2021 15:22
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I had backup camera issues with my Mazda and apparently it's a fairly common problem with their hatches and SUVs. I've had Model 3s try and merge into me in exactly the same spot several times now. It's an area where the road layout has changed and you can still see the old painted over lane markings and apparently that is enough to confuse the Tesla system.
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Sep 29, 2021 19:42
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dissss posted:I've had Model 3s try and merge into me in exactly the same spot several times now. It's an area where the road layout has changed and you can still see the old painted over lane markings and apparently that is enough to confuse the Tesla system. ban these loving deathtraps jesus christ
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Sep 29, 2021 19:52
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Imperador do Brasil posted:My buddy with the Tesla that keeps trying to kill him by steering itself off roads and into storage buildings is having even more issues. Feeling smart&smug for getting the NIRO. Of course the Tesla owners are mainly in Elon's reality distortion field, but I couldn't deal with this level of defects etc.
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Sep 29, 2021 20:04
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dissss posted:I had backup camera issues with my Mazda and apparently it's a fairly common problem with their hatches and SUVs. I've said it before, my mom's Honda lane keep assist has tried to veer me off the road because of shadows.
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Krakkles posted:Ford like to tension critical internal engine components with just-shy-of-failure oil pressure That reminds me I should probably replace my 4.6 timing chain tensioners...  coupedeville posted:Non-tesla terrible car stuff about my garbage barge coupe deville - at some point the previous owner took out the electric vacuum pump which probably explains why I have no cruise control and the brake pedal is stiff and weak. Will need to source some kind of replacement but the correct pumps seem few and far between. I'm wondering if I can retrofit a different vacuum pump and what that might entail. Suggestions? I wouldn't expect difficulty. Vacuum is vacuum, as long as it's enough. One that had its own pressure switch so all it needs is 12V would be nice. I don't have any suggestions for a replacement, though, I'm afraid.
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coupedeville posted:
I think there's some OEM models out there. They get used on vehicles w/vacuum wipers which slow down during acceleration (old jeep Wagoneers for example).
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Uthor posted:I've said it before, my mom's Honda lane keep assist has tried to veer me off the road because of shadows. That doesn't sound like something tech called LANE ASSIST should do. I'm wondering how much testing they do but then I remember poo poo like Volvo's auto braking system knocking down journos who were dumb enough to stand in front of it during demonstrations at press days 
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Sep 30, 2021 16:48
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Olympic Mathlete posted:That doesn't sound like something tech called LANE ASSIST should do. I'm wondering how much testing they do but then I remember poo poo like Volvo's auto braking system knocking down journos who were dumb enough to stand in front of it during demonstrations at press days In fairness to the car, the system was turned off prior to the demonstration. You'd think they'd have a pre-demostration checklist, but there you go.
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My take is that any driver aids beyond cutting throttle & applying brakes makes all of us worse drivers in the long run and need to be ripped out of all platforms. Give me the blind spot warnings, OK, but "Lane Keep Assist" needs to go. Keep your loving robot hands off the steering wheel, I'm supposed to be the one in charge. Drift out of your lane and deal with the consequences. That's how it's been and that's how it should be, until these things can behave like they're on rails in ALL CASES. If things are bad enough that you need the car to steer for you, you don't belong behind the wheel in the first place. What these lane keep systems do is make terrible drivers complacent to the point they'll lean on them 100%, when really they're supposed to be a backup.
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I test drove a model S a long time ago (before all of this self driving stuff) and it had a lane keep assist that basically made a vibration (can’t remember if it was the seat or the wheel) when you started drifting out of your lane. That kind of lane keep assist is cool because it still leaves you in control.
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I rented a giant stupid GM SUV this summer and it also had that system. The left or right side of the seat would vibrate like a rumble strip if you started to drift out of your lane. It must have been connected to steering torque or angle because a decisive move wouldn't set it off, even without signaling (yes I tested out all the possibilities, it was a long drive) but a slow drift would. I think that's a good invention that improves safety. Notably you don't have to buy a Tesla to get it
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NoWake posted:My take is that any driver aids beyond cutting throttle & applying brakes makes all of us worse drivers in the long run and need to be ripped out of all platforms. Give me the blind spot warnings, OK, but "Lane Keep Assist" needs to go. Keep your loving robot hands off the steering wheel, I'm supposed to be the one in charge. But realistically, we've already established that even if you specifically ban someone from driving (e.g. revocation of license due to DUI), they'll still drive. It's probably a fair assumption that nothing is going to change in terms of stopping people who shouldn't drive from driving - not that it shouldn't happen, but I'd bet that it won't. Since the consequences can and do include injury and death - especially for other people - I'd like viable driver aids to be made available. I wouldn't have gotten in my motorcycle accident if that person's car had slightly corrected them. (They weaved into my lane and knocked my front tire out from under the bike.) Basically: They need to be made to work appropriately, and Tesla is some straight up bullshit, but they (driver's aids, not Tesla) need to exist, too.
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Ford's lane keep system has worked well for me across two cars now. It just gives a little bump if I drift over a lane line. Just a nice safety feature to keep you in your lane. Ford also lets you pick between the nudge, the vibrate alert, both, or off. The lane centering is less a safety thing and more of an auto drive because it just steers for you for the most part. It only works if cruise control is on and does have the "hands on wheel" sensing. It's super nice on a long highway drive. Zero One fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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Sep 30, 2021 20:19
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Goober Peas posted:In fairness to the car, the system was turned off prior to the demonstration. You'd think they'd have a pre-demostration checklist, but there you go. !! Incredible
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Goober Peas posted:In fairness to the car, the system was turned off prior to the demonstration. You'd think they'd have a pre-demostration checklist, but there you go. There was at least one instance where someone got hurt because the specific vehicle they obtained for the test wasn’t even optioned with the pedestrian avoidance system. They just flat out drove a car into a pedestrian because they can’t be bothered to read option sheets. Found a link! Of loving COURSE it was a dealer.
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MrYenko posted:There was at least one instance where someone got hurt because the specific vehicle they obtained for the test wasn’t even optioned with the pedestrian avoidance system. They just flat out drove a car into a pedestrian because they can’t be bothered to read option sheets. My memory is a bit fuzzy on the details, but there was also something with some dude that sued Harley Davidson because he thought his bike had ABS and it didn't and he crashed or some such.
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https://twitter.com/dsgolson/status/1443367027536646144 ... uh.. ..what?
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Gomi Day posted:https://twitter.com/dsgolson/status/1443367027536646144 Looking for bros to charge shifters with.
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Oct 1, 2021 01:52
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aw i was hoping you had to shift by rolling the ｏｒｂ
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Oct 1, 2021 01:54
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Would be really cool if the orb rolled and then you could play Missile Command or Centipede while parked
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Oct 1, 2021 02:17
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The orb should be the key. Drop it in the pocket to drive away. Want to put it in your pocket? gently caress you, it's Orb now.
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Behold the power of my ORB OF TRANSPORTATION
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Oct 1, 2021 08:42
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Look To Your Orb For The Lane Change Warning.
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Oct 1, 2021 08:54
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Just what cars need: more overly complex mechanisms controlling critical parts of operation. Now the same crappy Chinese made servo motors and plastic gears that are in your shoddy home appliances are in your car!
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Oct 1, 2021 12:27
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Dog trackin' in your city soon!
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Oct 1, 2021 12:35
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Midjack posted:Looking for bros to charge shifters with. This is just a slightly fancier looking version of the thing that's been in the Jaguar XF for 10 years.
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Oct 1, 2021 12:47
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Scratch Monkey posted:Just what cars need: more overly complex mechanisms controlling critical parts of operation. Now the same crappy Chinese made servo motors and plastic gears that are in your shoddy home appliances are in your car! THIS. I've said it many times. Regular rear end car with physical linkages but happens to have an electric motor = good!
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Thing is though poo poo like this gets attention which is why they do it. I bet someone saw Tesla's stupid loving yoke and went "lads, all press is good press" and this is what they came up with. I imagine it has another way to change gear when this inevitably decides to poo poo itself and just remain in orb mode. (I mean at least I HOPE there is but when you can't open the doors of a Tesla or even move the loving thing if the battery dies on you in the middle of the highway, what hope is there really? )
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I imagine it has another way to change gear when this inevitably decides to poo poo itself and just remain in orb mode. (I mean at least I HOPE there is but when you can't open the doors of a Tesla or even move the loving thing if the battery dies on you in the middle of the highway, what hope is there really? 
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That just gives me memories of the Chaika's pushbutton transmission and the one button getting stuck when James May tried to shift it into drive
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Just Telegraph Post
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KozmoNaut posted:Look To Your Orb For The Lane Change Warning. 
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Would be surprised if not Russia. Olympic Mathlete posted:Thing is though poo poo like this gets attention which is why they do it. I bet someone saw Tesla's stupid loving yoke and went "lads, all press is good press" and this is what they came up with. It looks like it has the usual covered keyhole there to the upper right, presumably to release it to spin manually, but if the shifter is electronic to start with, I'm not sure what good it will do you.
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KozmoNaut posted:Look To Your Orb For The Lane Change Warning.
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