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Mister Kingdom posted:You cannot escape the Mini-Disc! Well this has a new owner 
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Mister Kingdom posted:You cannot escape the Mini-Disc! That MSRP  It's such a typical Sony product, full of neat features and technical wizardry, but also deeply flawed and hobbled by bad decisions.
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Sep 30, 2021 09:06
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Cojawfee posted:They handwaved this away by putting "Vista Capable" stickers on the lovely machines with 512MB of RAM and called it a day. Yeah, the computer was capable of running Vista, but it wouldn't be pleasant. And like was said before, it was because OEMs were causing a big stink about needing to offload these machines, and Microsoft needs to keep them happy. I worked in a computer store at the time and a lot of our business was putting more RAM in computers people bought at Best Buy.
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Sep 30, 2021 10:21
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I ran Vista on a base model 2007 Core 2 Duo MacBook via Bootcamp I played Fable on it. It ran kinda slow when I first booted, but I just chalked that up to my computer being trash, so I turned off the visuals and Windows ran way better.
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Sep 30, 2021 10:42
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Wasabi the J posted:I ran Vista on a base model 2007 Core 2 Duo MacBook via Bootcamp You filthy pervert, that's incredible. 
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Sep 30, 2021 10:51
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BattleMaster posted:I got Vista free because I was in school at the time, and I put it on a very above spec new build. Worked great and I didn't experience any of the bad stuff that people were saying. Given that 7 was so lauded but wasn't really all that different (aside from being sold on better machines), I guess it goes to show that MS really should have had stricter minimum requirements instead of trying to maximize sales by letting marginal machines scrape in. I got a free boxed copy of Vista Ultimate from botting that Microsoft game site that used to let you collect points for prizes. Sold it on eBay for a couple hundred. I didn't run it on my personal machine until later, and it was mostly fine.
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Sep 30, 2021 13:50
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F4rt5 posted:768 MB RAM Well there's a RAM quantity I hadn't seen before.
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Sep 30, 2021 13:58
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2x128 + 2x256 sticks, I guess?
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Sep 30, 2021 14:35
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Wibla posted:2x128 + 2x256 sticks, I guess? It was the RAM limit for Win98 SE.
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Sep 30, 2021 14:53
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Wibla posted:2x128 + 2x256 sticks, I guess? More likely 512+256, or 3x256. A lot of motherboards had 2 or 3 slots, and fitting matched pairs for dual-channel wasn't really something you had to care about at the time.
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Sep 30, 2021 14:57
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We have Core 2 Duo workstations in production today that run Windows 10.
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Sep 30, 2021 14:58
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One of my friends had a computer that ran Vista. It was a decent custom build gaming rig, but that thing was positively cursed. That I put more on him because he causes weird things to happen in his computers. Even his current one, which used to be mine, he manages to break something every time we play online.
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Sep 30, 2021 15:01
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Trabant posted:Well there's a RAM quantity I hadn't seen before. e: I misremembered. The board had just 3 RAM slots (Asus K8N). But 768 I'm sure of F4rt5 has a new favorite as of 15:26 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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Sep 30, 2021 15:18
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I still remember my dad's first foray into buying RAM for our PC. It had 4x1mb chips, and there were 8 slots. He got a screaming 50% off deal on RAM, only $50/1mb so we doubled it to 8mb for the low, low cost of $200.
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Sep 30, 2021 15:54
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Nocheez posted:I still remember my dad's first foray into buying RAM for our PC. It had 4x1mb chips, and there were 8 slots. He got a screaming 50% off deal on RAM, only $50/1mb so we doubled it to 8mb for the low, low cost of $200. The hand-me-down AST Flyer 386-25 ended up with 5MB of RAM after an upgrade. Enough for me to run Windows 3.11, Windows 95 and eventually Windows NT 3.5 and 4.0. I also ran Slackware linux on it once I got a CD drive.
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Sep 30, 2021 16:06
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Lowen SoDium posted:I got a free boxed copy of Vista Ultimate from botting that Microsoft game site that used to let you collect points for prizes. Sold it on eBay for a couple hundred. Ah, the days of easily-exploited prize sites. I don't remember the exact mechanic of it, but sometime back in early 2008 there was a Pepsi site that had a similar weakness. I got a stack of CDs, a pair of headphones, and I think a Zune because I was running out of interesting things on the site (the prizes were very limited). I think I ended up giving the Zune away, having never opened the box. Kind of wish I'd kept it so I could post it in this thread.
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Sep 30, 2021 17:05
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GreenNight posted:We have Core 2 Duo workstations in production today that run Windows 10. I was just recently at my eye doctor and noticed every single PC they had was a full size Dell tower with a "RePC" sticker on it. They where Core 2 Duos all running Windows 10. Not that I can really say much about this... My company generally buys referbs off Amazon for our sales floor computers. i5-6xxx series with some random cheap 256GB SSD in them. They are perfectly suited for the task they are being asked to perform and much cheaper than new.
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Sep 30, 2021 17:11
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l'm fixing an Acer something for someone right now. Windows 10 32-bit! I don't think I've ever seen that. It's an i3-2XXX from 2012!! with 4GB RAM and a 256 GB SSD!! But haven't seen an update in 3 years! I was afraid to put that thing on my network lol It's been trying its best to update itself for the past six hours and I think Windows just auto-switched to 64-bit by itself, poor thing F4rt5 has a new favorite as of 18:08 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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Sep 30, 2021 18:03
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Pham Nuwen posted:Ah, the days of easily-exploited prize sites. I don't remember the exact mechanic of it, but sometime back in early 2008 there was a Pepsi site that had a similar weakness. I got a stack of CDs, a pair of headphones, and I think a Zune because I was running out of interesting things on the site (the prizes were very limited). Years ago, I managed to score a GoPro Hero3 from an electronics retailer, who had put up an online competition that must have been coded by a complete amateur. It was so trivially easy to exploit by intercepting the POST request and changing the score value. There was no checksum, no timestamp, no nothing, just the score and an ID for that particular play of the game, put directly on the scoreboard with no validation.
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Sep 30, 2021 18:21
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I may have stolen 1 GB of DDR3 from school computers in 2003. Also, if you insure a phone, an attacker can change the numbers on a replacement phone receipt to a higher price than you paid! Even more than the deductible!
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Sep 30, 2021 19:23
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Pham Nuwen posted:Ah, the days of easily-exploited prize sites. I don't remember the exact mechanic of it, but sometime back in early 2008 there was a Pepsi site that had a similar weakness. I got a stack of CDs, a pair of headphones, and I think a Zune because I was running out of interesting things on the site (the prizes were very limited). There was also that time that Pepsi said you could win a Harrier Jump Jet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdackF2H7Qc And some dude tried to cash in: "As a member of the so called Pepsi Generation the company was advertising to, the notion of owning a Harrier Jet appealed to him enormously" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eurPvilaMCI
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You go to the Pepsi HQ to pick up your fighter jet, and the next thing you know they've got you fighting in the cola wars.
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https://medium.com/history-in-bytes/when-pepsi-had-6th-largest-navy-in-the-world-4612708b70d2
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Oct 1, 2021 11:21
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Stuff that's lying on the shelves around here: Some kind of coax to ethernet stuff?    Also some netware stuff.
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Oct 1, 2021 11:35
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Pham Nuwen posted:Ah, the days of easily-exploited prize sites. I don't remember the exact mechanic of it, but sometime back in early 2008 there was a Pepsi site that had a similar weakness. I got a stack of CDs, a pair of headphones, and I think a Zune because I was running out of interesting things on the site (the prizes were very limited). I actually got a Zune from that MS site as well. I used it for a few year, it was pretty nice actually. I honestly think that everyone who poo poo on the Zune had never used one.
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Oct 1, 2021 13:47
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Lowen SoDium posted:I actually got a Zune from that MS site as well. I used it for a few year, it was pretty nice actually. I honestly think that everyone who poo poo on the Zune had never used one. At that time I didn't own a Windows computer, and if there was a way to get music onto a Zune from Linux, I couldn't figure out how, so I never even bothered to open it. Besides, I was happy with my Creative Zen Nomad Jukebox (or whatever stupid combination of half a dozen names it had).
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Oct 1, 2021 16:00
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His Divine Shadow posted:Stuff that's lying on the shelves around here: Those are BNC to ethernet convertors, nooo idea why that exists lmao BNC is basically a ruggedized coax connection. We use them to transmit RF for ultrasonic testing equipment.
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Oct 1, 2021 16:14
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There are multiple physical implementations of Ethernet. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that Ethernet is implemented on multiple physical layers? I don't think you can just throw a passive adapter in there like that to change between thinnet and twisted pair.
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Oct 1, 2021 16:24
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They're probably for a cable tester, to let you test coax using an RJ45 jack.
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mkvltra posted:Those are BNC to ethernet convertors, nooo idea why that exists lmao BNC to RJ45, not necessarily ethernet. Maybe somebody wanted to hook an oscilloscope to a network port. Maybe somebody has an odd piece of lab equipment which uses RJ45 for input, but their other equipment uses BNC (very common) Or yeah, maybe it's just a way to do continuity testing of BNC cables using an RJ45 ethernet tester like SubG says
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Oct 1, 2021 18:04
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mkvltra posted:Those are BNC to ethernet convertors, nooo idea why that exists lmao It's also used a lot in ham, more for convinience than anything. I have a ton of x to BNC adaptors lying around for my various radios.
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Oct 1, 2021 19:00
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mkvltra posted:Those are BNC to ethernet convertors, nooo idea why that exists lmao One of the uses for them is as passive baluns. It's BNC to RJ-45 and it's you'd use them sometimes with analog security cameras to use Cat5 rather than RG-59. Cat5 was cheaper and some baluns (not that one) would let you transmit video and power.
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That all owns. I've learned much! I had never seen that type of connection before, so I instinctively got "XLR to pneumatic quick-connect" vibes
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Oct 1, 2021 20:11
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His Divine Shadow posted:Stuff that's lying on the shelves around here: I have no information beyond this photo but my guess is that it's for looking at Ethernet over twisted pair signals on a scope. Ethernet has 4 pairs/8 wires but only two pairs are used for signaling - 1 transmit pair and 1 receive pair. Given that a scope would not be able to transmit, it would make sense that it only breaks out the pair with the incoming signal. Ethernet is differential signalling but is galvanically isolated. A scope measures single-ended, ground-referenced signals. So the - wire of the pair is probably connected to ground of the BNC connector while the + wire is probably connected to the signal of the connector. This wouldn't break anything because it's isolated from ground on the other side. The BNC female connector on the adapter wouldn't be able to plug directly into a scope, but could be connected by a standard male/male cable which may be preferable to having it plug directly into the scope for convenience reasons. Wired like this, if your scope has a high enough bandwidth to follow the signal, it should work just fine. edit: That said, I actually don't know if that would cause the Ethernet interface on the other side to think that a device was plugged in. If it doesn't think there's anything plugged in, then you wouldn't be able to get it to transmit and wouldn't be able to see anything. And if not, well I'm wrong, lol BattleMaster has a new favorite as of 20:16 on Oct 1, 2021 |
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BattleMaster posted:edit: That said, I actually don't know if that would cause the Ethernet interface on the other side to think that a device was plugged in. If it doesn't think there's anything plugged in, then you wouldn't be able to get it to transmit and wouldn't be able to see anything. And if not, well I'm wrong, lol Plug the computer into a managed switch, mirror its port out to another port, plug scope into the mirrored port? Edit: the problem with this is that it lets you look at traffic with a scope, but only traffic which is sufficiently well-formed for the switch to accept. Pham Nuwen has a new favorite as of 21:31 on Oct 1, 2021 |
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Oct 1, 2021 20:23
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His Divine Shadow posted:Stuff that's lying on the shelves around here: Thinwire to twisted pair adapter? (It was called thin wire in comparison to the yellow stuff.)
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Oct 1, 2021 21:25
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Zopotantor posted:Thinwire to twisted pair adapter? Guy Axlerod posted:There are multiple physical implementations of Ethernet. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that Ethernet is implemented on multiple physical layers? I don't think you can just throw a passive adapter in there like that to change between thinnet and twisted pair.
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Yeah, I’m a software guy, I’m leaving transceivers and poo poo to the experts. My only hands-on experience with network cabling was when I had to solder BNC connectors to thinwire some 30+ years ago. That sucked.
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Zopotantor posted:Yeah, I’m a software guy, I’m leaving transceivers and poo poo to the experts. My only hands-on experience with network cabling was when I had to solder BNC connectors to thinwire some 30+ years ago. That sucked. When I was at school in 1993-1995 we had a *lot* of 10Base2 thin Ethernet networking, and we had some lovely fancy crimp tools which made making custom cables incredibly quick and easy. We rewired whole rooms of PCs really quickly with lovely correct length cables. It was a thing of beauty having cables that were just right. I'm still genuinely impressed at how well and reliably our NetWare 3 network with DOS and Windows 3.1 hosts on it worked. Wish things were that simple and worked well now. I definitely feel like an old man shouting at clouds now with how insanely complex everything is. Edit: When I say crimp tools I mean several of one awesome crimper which you could do all the wire stripping, cutting outers, then crimping on the connectors with one tool but by using different bits of it and turning it around etc. It was fabulous 
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legooolas posted:Edit: When I say crimp tools I mean several of one awesome crimper which you could do all the wire stripping, cutting outers, then crimping on the connectors with one tool but by using different bits of it and turning it around etc. It was fabulous Replying to myself instead of editing, but I'm pretty sure it was like this one : http://academy.delmar.edu/Courses/ITNW2313/icoax.htm But I think a bit better as when you put the cable in to strip it it had a stopper so you just jammed the cable in there and it did it all to the right lengths for the connector etc. I definitely got to the point I could make them in a few seconds without even looking after a while of using it 
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