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Grouchio posted:So what was the problem with Gossip Girl again? it didn't have abbott and costello in it
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Alaois posted:it didn't have abbott and costello in it Costello: Well then who slept with Chuck? Abbott: Yes. Costello: I mean the lady's name. Abbott: Who. Costello: The woman who slept with Chuck. Abbott: Who. Costello: The woman he slept with. Abbott: Who. Costello: The girl that slept... Abbott: Who slept with Chuck! Costello: I'm asking YOU who slept with Chuck. Abbott: That's the woman's name. Costello: That's who's name? Abbott: Yes. Costello: Well go ahead and tell me. Abbott: That's it. Costello: That's who? Abbott: Yes.
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I remember exactly one character's name from that show and I hope that was it.
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christmas boots posted:Costello: Well then who slept with Chuck?  I appreciate this post.
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Ellie Trashcakes posted:I mean also Lana del Rey I don't quite understand this I am afraid! Megillah Gorilla posted:
Same, it is very good.
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christmas boots posted:Costello: Well then who slept with Chuck? Oh I see what your problem is! The woman’s name is Hu and you’re confusing it with who. You’re probably not used to that name as it’s Chinese. So for clarity Susan Hu slept with Chuck.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Oh I see what your problem is! The woman’s name is Hu and you’re confusing it with who. You’re probably not used to that name as it’s Chinese. So for clarity Susan Hu slept with Chuck. I should never have saved you from those seals!
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I loosely recall that someone once did a Whos On First variant using actual names of contemporary baseball players.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Oh I see what your problem is! The woman’s name is Hu and you’re confusing it with who. You’re probably not used to that name as it’s Chinese. So for clarity Susan Hu slept with Chuck. I don't know Hu and my name's not Susan
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I loosely recall that someone once did a Whos On First variant using actual names of contemporary baseball players. 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I loosely recall that someone once did a Whos On First variant using actual names of contemporary baseball players. Slovin and Allen on their Comedy Central Presents special. When I was younger, I thought it was the greatest thing i ever saw on stand up special
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I remember this making the rounds on Facebook a while ago, but it was surrounded by Boomer Borders
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I picked up the Universal Classic Monsters collection because I had never actually seen the original Universal Monster movies. Dracula... is kind of a hot mess, if I'm being honest. The plot is almost incoherent without reading the original novel, entire weeks will pass between scenes with the only hint being a quick mention of something from the previous scene being "Weeks ago", and they start the Vampire Lucy plot, and even show her as a vampire, but... forget to resolve it. I know that the movie had a very troubled production, but it really has not aged well. I have also seen Frankenstein and The Mummy, and both aged MUCH better (well, okay, except for one part in The Mummy where a character is outraged that the Egyptian government won't let them take the loot from the tombs back to Great Britain, and wanted it to stay in the museum in Cairo. Then again, the guy came off as a dick, so... maybe The Mummy was well ahead of its time in that regard?)
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Watch the Spanish version of Dracula that was filmed on the same sets pararel to the more famous version. It's got a lot of the same problems since it's basically the same film with the same scenes but with Spanish speaking actors but makes up for it with all these little stylistic touches that were intended to one up the English version as the Spanish crew would watch the dailies from the English version and try to think of ways to add movement or style to each shot.
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I saw a pic of a cable line running through (what looked like) a sewage pipe to me in the OSHA thread, and it made me wonder: How well did Jim Carrey’s Cable Guy age? The description on IMDb calls it a black comedy, but it was also made in 1996 so I have some serious doubts about the “comedy” part of that equation.
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It has Jim Carrey in it so I have some serious doubts about the “comedy” part of that equation.
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This isn't so much media aging badly as much as me aging badly, but as a kid, when I would read the TV listings and see something listed as a "Black Comedy" I thought that meant it'd be a film like "Friday".
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Icon Of Sin posted:I saw a pic of a cable line running through (what looked like) a sewage pipe to me in the OSHA thread, and it made me wonder: It’s imo one of the funniest movies he’s ever done. It’s amazing and I still laugh. I don’t know what hasn’t aged. The film is about two rough characters, Jim being way more deranged. The ending is kind of sweet despite the rest of the film. Idk it still cracks me up and I quote it all the time.
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I remember liking The Cable Guy when I watched it 20 years ago but it definitely was a very different movie from the Ace Ventura movies that Carry was known for at that time. I don't think the concept really aged poorly, guy is obsessed with media to the point it horribly affects his personality, just if you made it now it would be a guy obsessed with online influencers instead of TV shows
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duck trucker posted:I remember liking The Cable Guy when I watched it 20 years ago but it definitely was a very different movie from the Ace Ventura movies that Carry was known for at that time. The Streamer Guy "Somebody doxx me!"
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Has anyone watched Kubrick's adaptation of Lolita? I read the book recently and enjoy Kubrick, but the tagline for the poster is "a tale of forbidden love" and has the 14-year-old actress wearing heart sunglasses and suggestively sucking a lollipop. So it just feels like they miss the point of the novel and went straight to "sexy pre-teen seduces man" instead of "normal young girl kidnapped and raped over the course of years leaving irreparable damage and suffering"
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Kevin DuBrow posted:So it just feels like they miss the point of the novel and went straight to "sexy pre-teen seduces man" instead of "normal young girl kidnapped and raped over the course of years leaving irreparable damage and suffering" This is not the point of the novel.
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I don't mean to give that as the "point" of the book. I just mean it's a novel with a very sensitive subject that even some contemporary readers took as a riveting tale of love and the poster sets off red flags.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:Has anyone watched Kubrick's adaptation of Lolita? I read the book recently and enjoy Kubrick, but the tagline for the poster is "a tale of forbidden love" and has the 14-year-old actress wearing heart sunglasses and suggestively sucking a lollipop. So it just feels like they miss the point of the novel and went straight to "sexy pre-teen seduces man" instead of "normal young girl kidnapped and raped over the course of years leaving irreparable damage and suffering" There’s a very good Lolita Podcast that goes into the representations of the main character in other media, and it’s both fascinating and sickening. Highly recommended, but in the same way Requiem for a Dream comes highly recommended (is it anymore? I think it aged into mediocrity, personally, but I haven’t spent much time thinking about it lately.) Tl;dr on the podcast is that interpretations of Lolita are a symptom of a society that sees young women as extremely fuckable, even when it’s obvious the character is being abused. I’m too far from expertise in the subject to try and break it down any further, esp when the podcast exists and did such a good job.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I don't mean to give that as the "point" of the book. I just mean it's a novel with a very sensitive subject that even some contemporary readers took as a riveting tale of love and the poster sets off red flags. Not even close to the worst thing, quote:In 1959, novelist Robertson Davies wrote that the theme of Lolita is "not the corruption of an innocent child by a cunning adult, but the exploitation of a weak adult by a corrupt child. This is no pretty theme, but it is one with which social workers, magistrates and psychiatrists are familiar." [/29] There’s not a yikes big enough.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:There’s a very good Lolita Podcast that goes into the representations of the main character in other media, and it’s both fascinating and sickening.
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Torquemada posted:Not even close to the worst thing, Tbh im not sure how anyone could read lolita and think this lol, hh is a piece of poo poo from the beginning to end
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Anyone remember The Weekend Web? It was a frontpage feature where goons would screenshot funny/weird/horrifying posts from various other forums. Anyway I bring it up because I read Lolita a few years ago and was kind of shocked how closely Humbert Humbert's MO matched some of the posts from some pedophile forums that were featured there. So I guess that means the novel has aged well?
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mandatory lesbian posted:Tbh im not sure how anyone could read lolita and think this lol, hh is a piece of poo poo from the beginning to end Because these days we take for granted the idea that people in charge of children could or might be up to no good, but 65 years ago there was exactly the same proportion of abuse happening but the idea was never considered out loud. So much so that an author felt completely comfortable penning an article that doesn’t even consider a different proposition than ‘all child professionals understand that 12 year old girls seduce men all the time’.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I saw a pic of a cable line running through (what looked like) a sewage pipe to me in the OSHA thread, and it made me wonder: Cable Guy is fantastic and well worth multiple viewings.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:There’s a very good Lolita Podcast that goes into the representations of the main character in other media, and it’s both fascinating and sickening. Highly recommended, but in the same way Requiem for a Dream comes highly recommended (is it anymore? I think it aged into mediocrity, personally, but I haven’t spent much time thinking about it lately.) It's kind of amazing because the whole book is pretty explicitly about reading around Humbert's linguistic charm, so what we have is several decades of people taking him at face value. Part of the issue with the Kubrick film is that it doesn't really translate that relationship between the reader and the narrator, because everything that happens in the film seems to happen literally and explicitly. It's why I'm glad we never got and probably will never get a film of Catcher in the Rye, because once you remove the act of translation between Holden and the reader, you're just left with a miserable little kid having a horrible time. I think the best way to adapt Lolita would be as a solo/stand-up act (Louis CK's jokes about public masturbation come to mind). Weirdly enough, there was a musical version made in the early 70s that I think kinda works really well for that reason, because it's like Cabaret, where Humbert is the emcee and the music makes it come across as black comedy, until it unravels and just becomes a nightmare horror. The worst way Lolita has aged I think is in its use of female suffering as (quote-unquote) entertainment, which has been a pretty consistent topic of discussion the past few years.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:There’s a very good Lolita Podcast that goes into the representations of the main character in other media, and it’s both fascinating and sickening. Highly recommended, but in the same way Requiem for a Dream comes highly recommended (is it anymore? I think it aged into mediocrity, personally, but I haven’t spent much time thinking about it lately.) Link please! I love me some book/social talk.
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Torquemada posted:Because these days we take for granted the idea that people in charge of children could or might be up to no good, but 65 years ago there was exactly the same proportion of abuse happening but the idea was never considered out loud. So much so that an author felt completely comfortable penning an article that doesn’t even consider a different proposition than ‘all child professionals understand that 12 year old girls seduce men all the time’. this was the defense presented in a child sex case in france like 5 years ago and they won
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I mean France loves their pedophiles and always has
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean France loves their pedophiles and always has les mods savaient
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean France loves their pedophiles and always has There's even a famous novel about a French pedophile iirc.
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Mr.Chill posted:Link please! I love me some book/social talk. here u go
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mandatory lesbian posted:Tbh im not sure how anyone could read lolita and think this lol, hh is a piece of poo poo from the beginning to end I did the first time I read it, though to be fair I was like 16. Humbert is such a clever, quick-witted character that it is possible for a reader to be taken in by him.
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HH isn't even that smart (it's been a while since I've read Lolita, but I think it's at least heavily implied that he couldn't hack it in Europe and his career success in America was mostly charlatanism), just very articulate, which is part of the point -- a major theme of the novel is HH taking advantage of American preconceptions about "sophisticated, intellectual" Europeans and "seductive" teenage girls. It just turns out that the same preconceptions colored people's interpretations of the novel, predictably enough.
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Rochallor posted:I did the first time I read it, though to be fair I was like 16. Humbert is such a clever, quick-witted character that it is possible for a reader to be taken in by him. Nabakov does the unreliable narrator pretty well; Pale Fire has a delusioned and obsessed narrator too. Regards Cable Guy, I haven't rewatched it since the first time in the cinema, other than Carrey's Jefferson Airplane karaoke, which is pretty amazing.
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