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Araganzar
May 24, 2003

Needs more cowbell!
Fun Shoe

Risutora posted:

its true, every male character in genshin is going to get a beefcake makeover

It's not gonna be that bad, they are just going to run new male characters through the Liefeld Algorithm.....

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TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Then they will always have their feet covered?

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever

Araganzar posted:

What phys damage and phys bonus damage are you talking about? WGS adds ATK% and its special effect also adds ATK%.

for the serpent spine,the 83% phys damage bonus from artifacts + 45% damage from having 5 serpent spine stacks = 128% total damage bonus?

I wasn't counting the WGS HP% proc since it's unreliable, but if I wanted to do that, it's built into the attack stat.

Araganzar posted:

It's probably best to look up player opinion online (not the best idea with some things but reliable when it comes to swords) or use the spreadsheet at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/htmlview?pru=AAABdprSFQ8*9XyMZ3FSVx2JzKaA272SpA

Short answer is the WGS is likely better, it's best in slot for every claymore user except some rock chick no one has ever heard of. Consider yourself lucky if you got one.

I'm familiar with that sheet, it says in eula's notes that the r5 SS is better than all 5*s if you can maintain 5 stacks, mine is r4. I'm at the point where I need to do the math myself.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

It's definitely messaging, but this messaging is mostly aimed at two things: the television/film industry, and foreigners trying to get stuff published in china. and the overlap of those two things ofc. mihoyo's designed their game around the chinese government's playtime regulations and never once made a peep, they've gained a lot of leeway. they're also an extremely successful chinese games company. they dont really care if some game they're making on the side that is way less successful has a couple lesbian kisses in it, and they can get away with plenty of subtext and bishonen dudes in genshin. if patch 2.2 adds a 73 minute zhongli x xiao gently caress scene, sure, there might be issues, but the game as it is won't be affected in the slighest.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Endorph posted:

It's definitely messaging, but this messaging is mostly aimed at two things: the television/film industry, and foreigners trying to get stuff published in china. and the overlap of those two things ofc. mihoyo's designed their game around the chinese government's playtime regulations and never once made a peep, they've gained a lot of leeway. they're also an extremely successful chinese games company. they dont really care if some game they're making on the side that is way less successful has a couple lesbian kisses in it, and they can get away with plenty of subtext and bishonen dudes in genshin. if patch 2.2 adds a 73 minute zhongli x xiao gently caress scene, sure, there might be issues, but the game as it is won't be affected in the slighest.

I'm going to be mad if we don't get the gently caress scene

TV Zombie
Sep 6, 2011

Burying all the trauma from past nights
Burying my anger in the past

Detheros posted:

99% and no hints left today.

Shame that THE loving GEO TREASURE COMPASS doesn't work here despite, you know, being a loving treasure chest in Liyue.

Was there a work around for this because I'm encountering the same problem in Mondstadt as I've found all the stuff except for treasure chests.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Enter your Anniversary Theater https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys...een#/GBC1DLVJ6N

we still doin this

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one

Risutora posted:

its true, every male character in genshin is going to get a beefcake makeover
Remember way back when Mass Effect had Kaidan who briefly expressed concern for Shepard's emotional well-being. Based on that players (even goons here) were insisting that Kaidan must be queer. The idea of a male character talking about their feelings was so foreign to the usual video game character machismo everyone was like "Oh so he's gay!" Naturally Bioware added a gay romance option for Kaidan in Mass Effect 3 to please the fans. I get that they were like trying to be progressive by normalizing homosexuality but I really think normalizing guys talking about feelings without them necessarily being queer would have been way more positive.

On the other hand, Genshin could really use a super muscly man-hunk so it wouldn't be a bad thing. As long as he's not oozing with toxic masculinity :shrug:

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
ø

Andrast posted:

Exactly, hoarding is the way to go



I bet your cupboards are full of old finnish plates you dont use!

Dont listen to this sensible man, the key to salvation in gachas is Always Be Pulling. What, you want to wait for a 10-pull? Do it now!

The Dalai Lama posted:

Physical comforts cannot subdue mental suffering, and if we look closely, we can see that those who have many possessions are not necessarily happy. In fact, being wealthy often brings even more anxiety.



Anyway, I got another Keq from the new freebies on the main banner, making my level 20 C2. I *just* started building Beidou to go with Raiden, is Keqing a ~fantastic~ match or can i keep ignoring her?

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

valuum posted:

I bet your cupboards are full of old finnish plates you dont use!

Dont listen to this sensible man, the key to salvation in gachas is Always Be Pulling. What, you want to wait for a 10-pull? Do it now!


:same:

I kept rolling on the last 3 wep banners because of reasons.

Still hoping rerun banner is albedo. I'll never stop.

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I finally got peer pressured into playing this by friends, it's pretty cool. I got Mona from the starter gacha, what's up with her dash? It has an icon beside the Q and E like it's special.

Andrast posted:

I'm going to be mad if we don't get the gently caress scene

mihoyo knows how the politics game works, they'll cut it down to 50 minutes.

valuum
Sep 3, 2003
ø

Alder posted:

I kept rolling on the last 3 wep banners because of reasons.

Still hoping rerun banner is albedo. I'll never stop.

I have yet to really roll for weapons, I'm not *that* bad at saving. No really! 10 wishes went into hoping for a lucky Raiden weapon though, and yaaay- oh, a terrible 5* that isnt even mentioned in any builds anywhere.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Acerbatus posted:

I finally got peer pressured into playing this by friends, it's pretty cool. I got Mona from the starter gacha, what's up with her dash? It has an icon beside the Q and E like it's special.

mihoyo knows how the politics game works, they'll cut it down to 50 minutes.

Her dash lets her run on top of water and through enemies I think maybe. However it also gets stuck on tiny height changes so it's hard to call it an improvement.

raverrn
Apr 5, 2005

Unidentified spacecraft inbound from delta line.

All Silpheed squadrons scramble now!


Acerbatus posted:

I finally got peer pressured into playing this by friends, it's pretty cool. I got Mona from the starter gacha, what's up with her dash? It has an icon beside the Q and E like it's special.

mihoyo knows how the politics game works, they'll cut it down to 50 minutes.

Mona has a special dash, you can see it in the talents page of the character screen. Off the top of my head she moves a little faster than a normal dash, she can dash across water, and she doesn't have a dodge cap like most characters.

Ardlen
Sep 30, 2005
WoT



TV Zombie posted:

Was there a work around for this because I'm encountering the same problem in Mondstadt as I've found all the stuff except for treasure chests.
Wait until tomorrow and get more hints? :shrug:

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

i hate this masterful chefs thing

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Acerbatus posted:

I finally got peer pressured into playing this by friends, it's pretty cool. I got Mona from the starter gacha, what's up with her dash? It has an icon beside the Q and E like it's special.
a few characters have special dashes.


Sanctum posted:

Remember way back when Mass Effect had Kaidan who briefly expressed concern for Shepard's emotional well-being. Based on that players (even goons here) were insisting that Kaidan must be queer. The idea of a male character talking about their feelings was so foreign to the usual video game character machismo everyone was like "Oh so he's gay!" Naturally Bioware added a gay romance option for Kaidan in Mass Effect 3 to please the fans. I get that they were like trying to be progressive by normalizing homosexuality but I really think normalizing guys talking about feelings without them necessarily being queer would have been way more positive.
i mean, theres other dude characters in me who talk about their feelings without being gay.

and in the context of this game thats mostly a western hangup, the guys in, say, the romance of the three kingdoms are crying constantly and yelling about their feelings lol.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

Wait what the heck is a dodge cap?

Redmark
Dec 11, 2012

This one's for you, Morph.
-Evo 2013
Is there any mechanic that offsets the local specialties grind or do people really end up going around picking dandelions or whatever every 48 hours

I don't care about the gacha or rewards, farming resources is the worst part about this game so far :negative:

Baiard
Nov 7, 2011

it's good for you
You can build garden plots in your teapot housing, if you have the teapot unlocked. It provides a low quantity every few days.

gninjagnome
Apr 17, 2003

Thanks all for the advice. I'm mostly playing pretty causal, and plan to stick to F2P. It sounds like I won't have to worry about pulls to much then.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

kater posted:

Wait what the heck is a dodge cap?
Go mash sprint over and over. Don't hold it, mash it. See how it goes 2 dodges, pause, 2 dodges? There's a cooldown once you've dodged twice in a row too close together. Mona doesn't have that.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
Ever since they buffed the special dashes it also has a very generous startup and invincibility properties. I've definitely skated though things I had no right to dodge with Mona.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Redmark posted:

Is there any mechanic that offsets the local specialties grind or do people really end up going around picking dandelions or whatever every 48 hours

I don't care about the gacha or rewards, farming resources is the worst part about this game so far :negative:

Remember when they accidentally bugged out the respawn rate on specialties and they'd show up every day instead of every three days and they fixed that immediately? Good times. I've still got almost 1000 valberries from how much grinding I did that stuff.

Anyway, these gold wings are fantastic. Now all the Geo characters have something that goes great with their outfits since the Liyue orange doesn't really work as well. We need more characters like Kuzuha, Childe, Beidou and Rosaria that're like, 'Look, just because my element is [x] doesn't mean I have to coordinate my outfit like I'm trying to blend in with it. That said, I hope we get some blue ones since it'll take till 2027 to get to Fontaine.

https://twitter.com/Yai_Sea_Ball/status/1350813115231862784


https://twitter.com/lumbbyz/status/1427229691681796099

https://twitter.com/cacao120olo/status/1396130105076842503

Also I'm surprised how well everyone's outfits work on other characters. Or maybe that's the artist's fixing things so much that I think they work better than they should.

RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Oct 2, 2021

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

even fanartists be removing the nipples from anime men

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

RareAcumen posted:

Also I'm surprised how well everyone's outfits work on other characters. Or maybe that's the artist's fixing things so much that I think they work better than they should.

Yeah they are obviously getting redesigned a little.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

another outfit swap, rip ayaka

https://twitter.com/ddal_kr/status/1436640482126274564?s=20

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

RareAcumen posted:

Also I'm surprised how well everyone's outfits work on other characters. Or maybe that's the artist's fixing things so much that I think they work better than they should.

for starters kaeyas shirt is cut way deeper than that

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Clarste posted:

Yeah they are obviously getting redesigned a little.

Yeah the obvious stuff like 'Xingqiu and Chlide are absolutely not the same clothes size' I'm fine with but sometimes people editorialize things a bit too much.

Endorph posted:

for starters kaeyas shirt is cut way deeper than that

dogsicle posted:

even fanartists be removing the nipples from anime men

Also Eula's outfit does not have pants

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

i'm sure i saw a different eula!kaeya before...time to plumb the archive and throw random other stuff up

https://twitter.com/LuchieGames/status/1404731084617695232?s=19

https://twitter.com/lmwnl/status/1404436347868180489?s=20

https://twitter.com/mementojai/status/1398299097346363395?s=20

https://twitter.com/akichi_hirobiro/status/1394609298907406337?s=20

don't think this one was what i was looking for...anyway the eula/chongyun swap makes up for it

https://twitter.com/snifflesmp4/status/1387187567519481857?s=20

https://twitter.com/csyday829/status/1386525944521895938?s=20

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

dogsicle posted:

i'm sure i saw a different eula!kaeya before...time to plumb the archive and throw random other stuff up

https://twitter.com/LuchieGames/status/1404731084617695232?s=19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8h3D0YudJQ

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?


so when do we get guoba as a playable adventurer

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

Mix. posted:

so when do we get guoba as a playable adventurer

Guoba skin, switches your summon to a teeny tiny Xiangling

Captain France
Aug 3, 2013

Nyoro posted:

Enter your Anniversary Theater https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys...een#/GBC1DLVJ6N

we still doin this

Right, that reminds me, I never shared mine because I was like 10 pages behind when it started and wanted to get current first.
Enter your Anniversary Theater https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/ys...een#/GB0LHY31UN

Redmark posted:

Is there any mechanic that offsets the local specialties grind or do people really end up going around picking dandelions or whatever every 48 hours

I don't care about the gacha or rewards, farming resources is the worst part about this game so far :negative:

Aside from your teapot garden that barely grows a noticeable amount, always be picking up dandelions and stuff you don't need when you see them.
For explicitly hunting things down, there's an official interactive map that makes it a lot easier.
https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/app/ys-map-sea/index.html?lang=en-us#/map/2?shown_types=2,3,37&center=110.00,-637.00&zoom=-2.00

Captain France fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 3, 2021

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

avoraciopoctules posted:

Guoba skin, switches your summon to a teeny tiny Xiangling

New pet that says a tiny even more high pitch “yooooou’re toast!” When you kill an enemy with pyro.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
New pets are tiny versions of the other characters on your team. Only if you’ve purchased them.

Captain France
Aug 3, 2013

ninjoatse.cx posted:

New pets are tiny versions of the other characters on your team. Only if you’ve purchased them.

I'm pretty sure Honkai has multiple E.L.F.s that are just that. And ones that are tiny versions of NPCs.

And yet when they gave us Paimon she's only a cosmetic.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Sexual Aluminum posted:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/china-ban...ngfsD6QKc9ZAYey

Uh does this mean China is banning Genshin? And isn’t Honkai like 90% lesbian relationships?

It's bullshit reporting on nothing of substance op:

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

this doesn't seem to be actually legally binding and is apparently an advisory on "this is what a bunch of crusty old officials are annoyed by and what they think you should do" else they'd have already chopped off 15% of their entertainment industry overnight


Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yeah its about as legally binding as when the republicans and trump briefly saber rattled about call of duty after some shootings.

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Araganzar
May 24, 2003

Needs more cowbell!
Fun Shoe
It feels like a little more than sabre rattling considering under the new security law annoying a bunch of crusty old officials is presently a crime carrying a penalty of life imprisonment in China.

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