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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

mcbexx posted:

Pro-click channel if you want to have a laugh get stuck in your throat and feel blinding white rage build up inside of you at the same time*.

* being aussie not required.

lol
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MSZgoFyuHC8

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Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009


Lmao

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Plastic wins: https://www.wired.com/story/baby-poop-is-loaded-with-microplastics/amp

They're finding microplastics in meconium. :cripes:

The researchers found smaller amounts of both polymers in the meconium, suggesting that babies are born with plastics already in their systems.

BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 20:33 on Oct 2, 2021

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
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Rime has issued a correction as of 23:28 on Sep 7, 2022

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




BIG HEADLINE posted:

Plastic wins: https://www.wired.com/story/baby-poop-is-loaded-with-microplastics/amp

They're finding microplastics in meconium. :cripes:

The researchers found smaller amounts of both polymers in the meconium, suggesting that babies are born with plastics already in their systems.

this new verse to the substitute by the who is wild

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Rime posted:

LOL, that news is like two weeks old now

Babies are full of microplastics, new research shows

I am 100% certain that infants having a tremendous volume / body weight ratio of particles leaking endocrine disrupting chemicals into their systems will have Zero impact on their childhood development and Never manifest down the road. :thumbsup:

Americans eat the most meat in the world, which is also an endocrine disruptor. There'll be all kinds of health problems that are difficult to figure out which massively bad thing is causing them

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Plastic wins: https://www.wired.com/story/baby-poop-is-loaded-with-microplastics/amp

They're finding microplastics in meconium. :cripes:

The researchers found smaller amounts of both polymers in the meconium, suggesting that babies are born with plastics already in their systems.

quote:

Microplastics have contaminated every aspect of our lives, so while you’ll never get rid of them, you can at least reduce your family’s exposure.

even mainstream media's not even pretending there's hope on this lol

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
the first time that was posted I just figured it was babies eating more plastic than me somehow, when I'm a grown adult and can eat a lot of plastic

but actually reading it this time it seems like they are cheating and are padding their stats at character creation with plastic and I'm not sure i can compete with that

Sure i can absorb and add microplastics to my biology like I have been for decades but I wasn't born partially plastic

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
children of men scenario, but its because the babies are too full of plastic to live. at the rate babies are accumulating plastics this should be around 2027

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Complications posted:

even mainstream media's not even pretending there's hope on this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rld0KDcan_w&t=189s

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Rutibex posted:

isopods can live in a 1 gallon jug and they are about 1cm long. a rich person is about 170cm long so they will require at least a 170 gallon jug to survive

such a jug can be obtained for $525.38
https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=29845

Actually isopods need 1³ gallons, so captains of industry would need 170³, or 5 million gallons: a dome.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Peering at my rich people terrarium, tapping the plastic panels to see them run

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


The content of the future will be betting scrap on which rich people dome will fail this week

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Actually isopods need 1³ gallons, so captains of industry would need 170³, or 5 million gallons: a dome.

this seems like something a rich could build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRXsjr-2sXI

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Popoto posted:

I don’t know how some people lived through 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to 2020, and still think both these gaps represent ever growing tech progress. The last twenty years feels like such stagnation. Maybe it’s just my anecdotal observation, I Dunno.

yepo. 2000-2020 was almost perfect stagnation -- perhaps one of the most stagnated periods in recent history. someone could be transplanted from 2000 to 2021 and it would feel nigh exactly the same. the only major difference is phones can do internet instead of just calls/text, but it's mostly there to sling ads n track, and not really any different. just further declining material conditions is about all that's happened

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Xaris posted:

yepo. 2000-2020 was almost perfect stagnation -- perhaps one of the most stagnated periods in recent history. someone could be transplanted from 2000 to 2021 and it would feel nigh exactly the same. the only major difference is phones can do internet instead of just calls/text, but it's mostly there to sling ads n track, and not really any different. just further declining material conditions is about all that's happened

monitors and cameras are higher resolution now, and drones are better.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




idk apps have changed a ton about how people do poo poo vs websites in 1999

bowser
Apr 7, 2007



Figure 1. Appearance of the deposition and stratification of plastic materials in a Spanish canyon



Figure 2. Layering of plastic materials in an area of Southern Italy.



Figure 3. Detail of the plastic stratigraphy.

(source).

Archaeologists of the future will find all this useful when trying to answer the question "how did we mess up so bad?"

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
probably shouldn't have made everything out of plastic

oh well, better luck next time

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Homocow posted:

probably shouldn't have made everything out of plastic

oh well, better luck next time

That dude from The Graduate was a sentient piece of plastic gloating about plastic's inevitable victory over humanity.

And Aqua's "Barbie Girl" was preparing us the whole time for the future. :smith:

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
i swear there is a PFSC comic where a future man comes back and starts openly weeping when he sees that everything is made out of metal. which is right, except plastic

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
plastic permeating everything, choking off life and turning the earth into a wasteland, is actually a totally separate problem to climate change though which is pretty lol. lmao

kater
Nov 16, 2010

surely mostly everyone alive ate a bunch of horrible plastic garbage as a baby too…. and we’re all… fine…. yeah just fine…

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Xaris posted:

yepo. 2000-2020 was almost perfect stagnation -- perhaps one of the most stagnated periods in recent history. someone could be transplanted from 2000 to 2021 and it would feel nigh exactly the same. the only major difference is phones can do internet instead of just calls/text, but it's mostly there to sling ads n track, and not really any different. just further declining material conditions is about all that's happened

again just because the paradigm by which you interact with consumer facing technology is similar doesn’t mean that technology has been stagnant. perhaps most relevant to us today is that an mrna vaccine would not have been feasible in 2001 (for reference 2001 had a nature article talking about sequencing about 96% of a single human genome over a year and a half).

Xaris posted:

the only major difference is phones can do internet instead of just calls/text, but it's mostly there to sling ads n track

i mean this alone is hilariously wrong. streaming video, the camera on your phone, new touchscreens, video calling (skype didn’t even offer video until 2005). gently caress the iphone didn’t even come out until 2007.

but no! we had phones then we have phones now. nothings different technology is over bing bong so boring

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Xaris posted:

yepo. 2000-2020 was almost perfect stagnation -- perhaps one of the most stagnated periods in recent history. someone could be transplanted from 2000 to 2021 and it would feel nigh exactly the same. the only major difference is phones can do internet instead of just calls/text, but it's mostly there to sling ads n track, and not really any different. just further declining material conditions is about all that's happened

no they came out with iphones in 2000, its all been down hill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzsjexYOOA4

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Real hurthling! posted:

idk apps have changed a ton about how people do poo poo vs websites in 1999

the virtual world has expanded while the material decays this is just like videodrome

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Stairmaster posted:

the virtual world has expanded while the material decays this is just like videodrome

if you want to hoard the few remaining resources you gotta plunge the populace into a virtual reality. that's like rookie poo poo. augmented reality to hide the dead bodies on the street. vr to help you forget you live in a 400 sqft windowless block. constant propaganda to remind you that this is the best it has ever been

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

mediaphage posted:

again just because the paradigm by which you interact with consumer facing technology is similar doesn’t mean that technology has been stagnant. perhaps most relevant to us today is that an mrna vaccine would not have been feasible in 2001 (for reference 2001 had a nature article talking about sequencing about 96% of a single human genome over a year and a half).

i mean this alone is hilariously wrong. streaming video, the camera on your phone, new touchscreens, video calling (skype didn’t even offer video until 2005). gently caress the iphone didn’t even come out until 2007.

but no! we had phones then we have phones now. nothings different technology is over bing bong so boring

Yes, technology is better, but society isn't changing to keep pace in radical ways. Being able to rapidly develop MRNA vaccines isn't something that's going to revolutionize our ability to fight infectious diseases because it's clear they'll never reach sufficient levels of widespread adoption. Phones are mostly content consumption and advertising devices.

Arguably the most revolutionary thing to happen in the last 20 years is that everyone has a camera on them at all times. That's something that might legitimately result in real societal changes, but I was more optimistic about that possibility a few years ago than I am now.

Stagnation probably isn't the right word, but the pace at which technology is actually changing the world seems to be slowing and meeting significantly more resistance relative to 30-40 years ago.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
A good breakdown on why science reporting on fusion power is bullshit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4W1g-6JiY

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
I learned all I needed to know about fusion from 1997's The Saint. :smug:

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Paradoxish posted:

Yes, technology is better, but society isn't changing to keep pace in radical ways. Being able to rapidly develop MRNA vaccines isn't something that's going to revolutionize our ability to fight infectious diseases because it's clear they'll never reach sufficient levels of widespread adoption. Phones are mostly content consumption and advertising devices.

Arguably the most revolutionary thing to happen in the last 20 years is that everyone has a camera on them at all times. That's something that might legitimately result in real societal changes, but I was more optimistic about that possibility a few years ago than I am now.

Stagnation probably isn't the right word, but the pace at which technology is actually changing the world seems to be slowing and meeting significantly more resistance relative to 30-40 years ago.

i donno about those MRNA vaccines just in general. they only seem to be useful in creating perfect incubation conditions for virus mutation. like little virus obstacle courses

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

It has mostly been miniaturization of electronics, no real "paradigm shifting" technology

mrna vaccine is cool but I still have a permanent physical disability so...

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Paradoxish posted:

Yes, technology is better, but society isn't changing to keep pace in radical ways. Being able to rapidly develop MRNA vaccines isn't something that's going to revolutionize our ability to fight infectious diseases because it's clear they'll never reach sufficient levels of widespread adoption. Phones are mostly content consumption and advertising devices.

Arguably the most revolutionary thing to happen in the last 20 years is that everyone has a camera on them at all times. That's something that might legitimately result in real societal changes, but I was more optimistic about that possibility a few years ago than I am now.

Stagnation probably isn't the right word, but the pace at which technology is actually changing the world seems to be slowing and meeting significantly more resistance relative to 30-40 years ago.

this wasn't the original premise, which was that technology hasn't changed in 20 years. it's just completely, flat-out wrong.

now we're shifting the goal posts to the effects that technology has on every day life. even that's wrong because social media didn't really exist - barring a few forums - in 2001, and i'd argue it's had a tremendous impact on society on multiple levels.

you guys just seem mad about fewer fancy new flash bang consumer tech features and i don't even think that's really slowing down, though perhaps it's becoming less obvious.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
pedantry has had some major advancements

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

mediaphage posted:

this wasn't the original premise, which was that technology hasn't changed in 20 years. it's just completely, flat-out wrong.

now we're shifting the goal posts to the effects that technology has on every day life. even that's wrong because social media didn't really exist - barring a few forums - in 2001, and i'd argue it's had a tremendous impact on society on multiple levels.

you guys just seem mad about fewer fancy new flash bang consumer tech features and i don't even think that's really slowing down, though perhaps it's becoming less obvious.

it only took 60 years to go from biplanes to space probes. what sort of great progress have we made in this new era of innovation? lol we have made negative progress. the last space shuttle flight was 2011

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

i just want to ride an electric train to my job at the nuclear power station and live in a krushchyovka. i dont need a phone

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

In infotech I think 1990s everything getting hooked up to the internet was so huge that everything that's happened since just kind of pales in comparison. That may be part of the reason for the stagnation feeling

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Rutibex posted:

it only took 60 years to go from biplanes to space probes. what sort of great progress have we made in this new era of innovation? lol we have made negative progress. the last space shuttle flight was 2011

the space shuttle was an overly expensive boondoggle, you probably should not point to its lack of continuance as a bad thing

in the meantime spacex is doing some pretty interesting things, do they not count for some reason?

gene therapy, the upcoming launch of the webb, quantum computing, the goddamned LHC

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

RIP Syndrome posted:

In infotech I think 1990s everything getting hooked up to the internet was so huge that everything that's happened since just kind of pales in comparison. That may be part of the reason for the stagnation feeling

you're not wrong, i think, though it's not all of it.

there's definitely a spreading out of culture that's happened, though that's not "technology." i think there are two big issues that help this feeling along, though - one, we are inundated with so much all the time that i think the major steps are much harder to feel out, and two, you don't have to forget anything anymore. everything is saved, everything you want to watch, read, listen to, you can. it didn't always used to be like this and i think there are fewer (which is not to say none) moments where something acts as a full cultural touchstone experienced by everyone in a country

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Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

bowser posted:



Figure 1. Appearance of the deposition and stratification of plastic materials in a Spanish canyon



Figure 2. Layering of plastic materials in an area of Southern Italy.



Figure 3. Detail of the plastic stratigraphy.

(source).

Archaeologists of the future will find all this useful when trying to answer the question "how did we mess up so bad?"

really cool, thanks for sharing

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