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Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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TOOT BOOT posted:

"No one talking about Game of Thrones anymore" says man posting in a thread about a show that ended 2 years ago.

:ohdear::justpost:

Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, if you wanna talk about a "big" show that ended without anyone talking about it, talk about The Americans, or True Blood or Sons Of Anarchy.

True Blood is actually hilarious and good. :c00lbert:

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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

True Blood is actually hilarious and good. :c00lbert:

Yeah, but so's The Americans. :P

(give or take a ten minute silent hole digging scene, which is peak peak TV for me)

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

10 minutes of bar floor sweeping > 10 minutes of hole digging imo

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
While Battlestar’s last ten minutes were really ehhh.. (“let’s become Amish!”) they didn’t retroactively make the good stuff bad or pointless. All the characters followed their motivations and personalities to their logical end points. And the big final battle was meaningful, cathartic, and full of cool explosions. Everything set up was followed through on and explained. You can’t say any of that for GoT.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

galagazombie posted:

While Battlestar’s last ten minutes were really ehhh.. (“let’s become Amish!”) they didn’t retroactively make the good stuff bad or pointless. All the characters followed their motivations and personalities to their logical end points. And the big final battle was meaningful, cathartic, and full of cool explosions. Everything set up was followed through on and explained. You can’t say any of that for GoT.

I think a lot of those end points in BSG are pretty crap, but yeah, at least they're logical and thoughtful ends to arcs that attempt to make emotional sense.

Game of Thrones attempts to have a profound and meaningful final statement in Danny's end -- sudden and shocking, but inevitable. It's also just utter bollocks when you're watching it. And then she suddenly goes all Mordor. It's just so laughable.

The show doesn't have anything meaningful to say about power that isn't borrowed knowledge from better writers - GRRM, usually. Hence all the stupid poo poo like "Power is a Ladder".

Power is a Ladder. That's the campest loving metaphor. If Littlefinger had taken a slightly different path in life he would have been running a pyramid scheme.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Sookie should've became a vampire instead of what actually happened. The majority of the show was amazing though so whatever.

LOST was great the entire time, including the final episode, step off haters, you're not a real LOST fan :colbert:

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Macaluso posted:

Sookie should've became a vampire instead of what actually happened. The majority of the show was amazing though so whatever.

LOST was great the entire time, including the final episode, step off haters, you're not a real LOST fan :colbert:

I just went and rewatched the AIDS burger scene. I always get a kick out of that.

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

I liked all the seasons of Dexter, I did not like the final GoT seasons.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

An insane mind posted:

I liked all the seasons of Dexter

:chloe:

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Jon basically became a Lumberjack at the end

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

Jon moved to Portland.

iamsosmrt
Jun 14, 2008

Deb/Dany parallels just got too real for me, even that weird incest storyline that was rushed and dropped (it was dropped in Dexter right?).

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

iamsosmrt posted:

Deb/Dany parallels just got too real for me, even that weird incest storyline that was rushed and dropped (it was dropped in Dexter right?).

Man, I just rewatched Dexter because I hate myself and you would be shocked how much Deb being "in love with" Dexter comes up. Like late in Season 8. I thought it got dropped when her crazy therapist who convinced her of it got dropped in Season 6, but no. It's not like a storyline, but if they ever need an excuse why she's putting up with him poo poo this episode, well that's right there for them.

iamsosmrt
Jun 14, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

Man, I just rewatched Dexter because I hate myself and you would be shocked how much Deb being "in love with" Dexter comes up. Like late in Season 8. I thought it got dropped when her crazy therapist who convinced her of it got dropped in Season 6, but no. It's not like a storyline, but if they ever need an excuse why she's putting up with him poo poo this episode, well that's right there for them.

I haven't seen Dexter's latter seasons since they aired, but I mostly remember it coming up as a big and icky revelation like "I think I'm loving in love with Dexter!?" as a season cliff hanger or something but never actually having like a real story arc or anything, but meaning moreso that it didn't affect much or have any payoff other than being like wtf is this and maybe being a catalyst for all the weird step-porn over the last decade.

What you're saying though seems like it came up much earlier than I thought.

His loving off into that storm and becoming a lumberjack was symbolically the same as Jon's guilt over killing Dany though, right? Like Dex felt the guilt of essentially causing Deb's murder after a series of really boneheaded decisions.

Man the best seasons were also the first 4 with a steep decline in season 5 that tanked in 8. What an odd coincidence.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, if you wanna talk about a "big" show that ended without anyone talking about it, talk about The Americans, or True Blood or Sons Of Anarchy.

GoT is different because it was more worldwide.
The Americans and Sons of Anarchy at least weren't big here in the UK.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?

Macaluso posted:

LOST was great the entire time, including the final episode, step off haters, you're not a real LOST fan :colbert:

Lost's real problem was that Seasons 4 and 5 took the show to some crazy places and had a lot of bonkers storylines and then you have the Season 6 island plotline which was fairly mundane and staid in comparison until the final 4 episodes and there's too much narrative shuffling of existing characters and their stories in order to give the Man in Black weight as a villain.

However, the flashsideways element works way more when you know that it's actually the series denouement for the characters rather than a separate story.

CPFortest fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Sep 22, 2021

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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I know people who still complain about "they told us the island wasn't purgatory or the afterlife, they told us that for years! And then in the end it was!"

No it wasn't dumbass. The flashsideways bits in the last season were, that parallel story where nobody went to the island because it sank decades before. The island was never purgatory, but that doesn't mean characters can't die and experience an afterlife.

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?
The purgatory/it's all a dream type stuff is very weird for people to latch onto considering the prototype examples for both are the Prisoner and Newhart. The Prisoner was a very disorienting type show in a way that Lost never was what with how the episodes aired not to mention its narrative. Newhart's ending is just a big joke at the fact that despite running for 8 or so seasons The Bob Newhart Show was still far more beloved and had way more cultural cache.

Pac and Cheese
Oct 29, 2010

gotta walk fast

regulargonzalez posted:

10 minutes of bar floor sweeping > 10 minutes of hole digging imo

they're equally good for completely different reasons

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, if you wanna talk about a "big" show that ended without anyone talking about it, talk about The Americans, or True Blood or Sons Of Anarchy.

Yeah I guess that's why this thread persists, people just can't get over the fact that Game of Thrones was bad. I mean I liked the books (didn't read the recent one) but the TV show my god lol

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

GOT was so bad that people have to be like "Hey, remember Lost? That was pretty alright, yeah?"

loving Lost lol

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GndAZ2cyh0k

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Mac and Cheese posted:

they're equally good for completely different reasons

Ok but one has Green Onions as the soundtrack

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

If there's one piece of media that reminds me of Season 7/8, it's Mad TV's "Never Stop the Dance" sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFO8ZWytwwA

Every time Dany or Jon blankly stated what they were doing or where they were going, all I could think of was Will Sasso's dead stare as he says "I have to go to a war."

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

I don't know how drunk or high you had to be to get to that, but we all thank you for your service.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Can’t wait to find out the rest of the horrible things they did which, in the end, didn’t even serve an artistic purpose.

https://twitter.com/ithayla/status/1444123139403751426?s=21

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

Can’t wait to find out the rest of the horrible things they did which, in the end, didn’t even serve an artistic purpose.

https://twitter.com/ithayla/status/1444123139403751426?s=21

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

Holy poo poo

https://ew.com/tv/hannah-waddingham-waterboarded-game-of-thrones/ posted:

Being an actor on Game of Thrones was never easy — keeping tightly held script secrets, worrying about when you'd be next to be killed off.

But Ted Lasso star Hannah Waddingham had a particularly traumatizing experience one the HBO drama. The actress, who played the religious zealot Septa Unella (of the infamous "shame" meme) in seasons 5 and 6, opened up about her harrowing torture scene on Collider Ladies Night, saying she was "waterboarded" for 10 hours while filming.

Waddingham said the original scene was meant to be even more tortuous, with Unella being raped by Gregor Clegane, a.k.a. the Mountain (Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson). "I think they'd had so many complaints about the rape of Sansa [Sophie Turner] that they chose not to go with it," she said. "Unbelievably, they changed it quite at the last minute. I think they possibly changed it when I was mid-air flying to Belfast because suddenly I got sent these new sides that said I would need a wetsuit top. I thought they'd sent me the wrong bits."

Apparently they hadn't, and when Waddingham arrived on set, she was indeed outfitted with a wetsuit. "They were like, 'Oh, it's going to be waterboarding instead,'" she recalled. "And I was like, 'But we're not actually doing waterboarding.' And they were like, 'No, no, no, we are.'"

Waddingham said she was bound to the wooden table in the scene with "proper big straps" for hours as Cersei (Lena Headey) poured wine into her face. "Definitely other than childbirth, [it] was the worst day of my life," she said. "Lena was uncomfortable pouring liquid in my face for that long, and I was beside myself. But in those moments, you go, 'Do you serve the piece and get on with it?' Or do you chicken out and go, 'This isn't what I signed up for.'"

She also recalled walking past the episode's director, Miguel Sapochnik, after finishing filming for the day and telling him, "Not really," when he asked if she was all right. "[He then said], 'The crew have just been saying we are actually really waterboarding you here.' And I was like, 'Yup, you don't need to tell me that!'"

When Waddingham returned to the hotel that night, she said she was unable to speak above a whisper and had "bruises already coming up like I'd been attacked."

Filming the scene had a lingering impact on her. "It definitely gave me claustrophobia around water," she said. "It's quite full on being waterboarded for 10 hours — and then, for only one minute and 37 seconds to be used on camera."

Waddingham was driven by the creators' desire for authenticity and her trust in the production team. "I didn't want the strap tight around my neck, but as they pointed out if the camera can see you lifting your head up to save yourself, that's not authentic," she said. "As [GOT co-creator] Dan Weiss pointed out, he came up and said, 'Look, in the script it says Cersei empties the remainder of her glass of red wine to wake up Unella. People aren't going to think that's enough. That is not enough retribution for Cersei. It needs to be three-quarters full or so — if we can cheat it, even more — of a carafe of wine.' The one thing I kept thinking to myself was the production company aren't going to let you die, so get on with it, be uncomfortable."

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

PostNouveau posted:

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

Holy poo poo

This is why I have no sympathy for D&D and hope everything that they try to do ever since GoT ended either keeps getting cancelled or postponed. gently caress those pricks.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Sydney Bottocks posted:

This is why I have no sympathy for D&D and hope everything that they try to do ever since GoT ended either keeps getting cancelled or postponed. gently caress those pricks.

:hmmyes:

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
Was the show always that horrible to its actors, even from the get go? drat.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Didn't Emilia Clarke have multiple strokes and then take another two seasons before they'd let her stop doing gratuitous nude (and often rape) scenes?

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Didn't Emilia Clarke have multiple strokes and then take another two seasons before they'd let her stop doing gratuitous nude (and often rape) scenes?

Aneurysms. She’s basically spoken about how she used Dany as her strength because she was literally terrified she was going to drop dead any moment.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Maybe things have changed, but there was no "fake" way to convincingly shoot water boarding. You either water board the actor or you do something else.

Should have done something else tho IMO.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.

Open Source Idiom posted:

Maybe things have changed, but there was no "fake" way to convincingly shoot water boarding. You either water board the actor or you do something else.

Should have done something else tho IMO.

Or recast the character with Sean Hannity.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Open Source Idiom posted:

Maybe things have changed, but there was no "fake" way to convincingly shoot water boarding. You either water board the actor or you do something else.

Should have done something else tho IMO.

you put her face under a cloth like they do in real life and she gets noseplugs and a tube in her mouth to feed her air. or maybe you recognize that you're only going to need a few seconds of footage so you just have her hold her breath for five or ten seconds then cut away to something else.

this isn't hard to figure out but no ones giving me millions of dollars to shoot an epic fantasy or anything

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Open Source Idiom posted:

Maybe things have changed, but there was no "fake" way to convincingly shoot water boarding. You either water board the actor or you do something else.

Should have done something else tho IMO.

I mean, they could have researched any number of actual, Medieval tortures from the real world, which was the kind of thing the show (the books, really) were more known for, at the start. Could have had some amazing makeup and practical effects work that might’ve snagged awards or anything else, really.

But no, gotta actually waterboard an actress for longer than a loving terrorist because it’s cheap and they hate everything.
:jerkbag:

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

How does it take 10 hours to shoot a less-than-5-minute scene involving 2 actors?

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

TOOT BOOT posted:

How does it take 10 hours to shoot a less-than-5-minute scene involving 2 actors?

It probably didn't; D&D just love torturing people.

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

We couldn't have dogs in the last 3 seasons cause of the budget but we could torture an actor for a few hours.


For something different, a one hour video on Book Tyrion (obvious spoilers for the books if you care):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9HFigfkKHA

Coquito Ergo Sum fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Oct 3, 2021

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Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

We couldn't have dogs in the last 3 seasons cause of the budget but we could torture an actor for a few hours.


For something different, a one hour video on Book Tyrion (obvious spoilers for the books if you care):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9HFigfkKHA

I don’t know where this “budget” thing came from, but D&D said that they just hated working with animals and that’s why the direwolves were cut during one of the after credits BTS.

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