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TenementFunster posted:yeah, especially when it involves las vegas. it’s the world capital of weird/stupid poo poo happening every single day, but none of the weird poo poo that happened that day seems to be connected. lol
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how could it be a weird gun deal or something, the security cameras didn't see a man in a black suit and sunglasses fleeing the building with a big bag labeled 'FED MONEY'?????
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Oct 3, 2021 02:49
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Malcolm Excellent posted:But where were all the shell casings!?
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Oct 3, 2021 02:49
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I do like the idea that 'dude randomly began hoarding heavy firearms and just dumped pounds of lead into a random event he had no connection to because he was some wacky boomer' is the most obvious and simple answer, though, just 'shooters be crazy'.
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Oct 3, 2021 02:50
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sexpig by night posted:I do like the idea that 'dude randomly began hoarding heavy firearms and just dumped pounds of lead into a random event he had no connection to because he was some wacky boomer' is the most obvious and simple answer, though, just 'shooters be crazy'.
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Oct 3, 2021 03:05
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People forget the spree shooters that hate life and want to get a high score on a Wikipedia page before they die. Not everything has to be politically motivated or being a false flag attack.
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adebisi lives posted:People forget the spree shooters that hate life and want to get a high score on a Wikipedia page before they die. Not everything has to be politically motivated or being a false flag attack.
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Oct 3, 2021 03:10
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TenementFunster posted:he could buy that all poo poo in one trip to any large vegas gun store. “dude was a psychopath who wanted to go out big” seems more plausible than any made-up story about “gun smuggling” or whatever. guns are easy as poo poo to get in the US! the feds or saudis or whoever don’t need to go through any weirdo like Paddock to get a shitload of ARs and ammo. just call up any hundreds of stores, or just call Colt, FN, etc. direct! it's not that he literally couldn't do it it's that he spent a weird amount of time amassing an unfeasible arsenal for a completely random target, even if he just wanted to 'go out big' there are way more dramatic targets in Literal Las Vegas that don't require you to turn a hotel room into a mini-bunker. Spree killers tend to not use that degree of planning, even with poo poo like school shooters who show that much detail it's a weird amount of time and work to put in to destroy something that he has no links to. Like, I'm not even saying it literally could only be something more sinister or murky, I'm just saying going 'well shooters be crazy' is kinda a lazy way to dismiss the genuinely insanely strange nature of the shooting. Even if we all agree it was exactly as it looked and he really was just a crazy boomer who wanted to die big it's easily one of the stranger sides of that sort of event.
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adebisi lives posted:Not everything has to be politically motivated or being a false flag attack. Except that most things are.
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The thing that stood out to me most about Paddock’s attack was that even given his Fish-In-A-Barrel set up, his actual accuracy rating (targets hit per bullets fired) is insane. Either he’s just a master tactician and strategist and set up all the proper dominos mentally and prepared and practiced and was an elite marksman in his own time OR he’s the goddam luckiest psychopath to ever pull the trigger and his time spent in Vegas would have better spent at the craps table smoking dice instead of country music fans
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Oct 3, 2021 13:30
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my stephen paddock theory is that he knew when to hold them, but also knew when to fold them
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Bust Rodd posted:The thing that stood out to me most about Paddock’s attack was that even given his Fish-In-A-Barrel set up, his actual accuracy rating (targets hit per bullets fired) is insane. Either he’s just a master tactician and strategist and set up all the proper dominos mentally and prepared and practiced and was an elite marksman in his own time OR he’s the goddam luckiest psychopath to ever pull the trigger and his time spent in Vegas would have better spent at the craps table smoking dice instead of country music fans He was dumping magazines with bump stocks into a crowd at a music festival, you don't need to be super accurate to hit a ton of people in that kind of situation. How many rounds do they think he fired because I'd imagine it potentially could have been into the thousands before the barrels on his 20 rifles started going bad.
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His accuracy wasn't insane. Though the same kind of thinking led to Port Arthur massacre conspiracy theories since Bryant hit so many people in the head at the cafe (ignoring that people sitting are all around the same level).
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yeah i never got the 'gun deal' angle. what's the motive there? i could get all the guns at cabela's and the bump stocks online, or just at the county expo center on the third saturday of each month. wasn't he fairly well-off?
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the episode went over his occupation in pretty good detail. seems weird to act like people are insane for thinking something is a conspiracy, in the thread for a podcast about insane conspiracies
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sexpig by night posted:it's not that he literally couldn't do it it's that he spent a weird amount of time amassing an unfeasible arsenal for a completely random target, even if he just wanted to 'go out big' there are way more dramatic targets in Literal Las Vegas that don't require you to turn a hotel room into a mini-bunker. Spree killers tend to not use that degree of planning, even with poo poo like school shooters who show that much detail it's a weird amount of time and work to put in to destroy something that he has no links to. everything else is unsubstantiated speculation and baseless conspiracy thinking. even Brace and Felix admitted it! there just isn’t any evidence of anything more! Bust Rodd posted:The thing that stood out to me most about Paddock’s attack was that even given his Fish-In-A-Barrel set up, his actual accuracy rating (targets hit per bullets fired) is insane. adebisi lives posted:How many rounds do they think he fired because I'd imagine it potentially could have been into the thousands before the barrels on his 20 rifles started going bad. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Oct 4, 2021 |
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Oct 4, 2021 08:17
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maybe he was affected by a directed energy weapon
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crickets drove him to killl
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Oct 4, 2021 08:34
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Dude was just having a white boy summer of sam
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Malcolm Excellent posted:white boy summer of sam drat that's a good username
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Dude was just having a white boy summer of sam nice
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the dumbest thing about the “gun deal” theory is that who the gently caress trafficking a bunch of assorted unmatched guns. if you look at pics of a the guns he actually used, even the same models are all different colors, and different scopes on everything lol. it’s the kind of thing you do when you’re a collector or hobbyist with a ton of money
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also I suspect the data on shots fired vs people wounded doesn’t account for tons of instances of multiple people being hit by the same bullet (or fragments), and probably lumps in everyone who was officially wounded at the event (not just from gun shot wounds)
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Slanderer posted:the dumbest thing about the “gun deal” theory is that who the gently caress trafficking a bunch of assorted unmatched guns. if you look at pics of a the guns he actually used, even the same models are all different colors, and different scopes on everything lol. it’s the kind of thing you do when you’re a collector or hobbyist with a ton of money Slanderer posted:also I suspect the data on shots fired vs people wounded doesn’t account for tons of instances of multiple people being hit by the same bullet (or fragments), and probably lumps in everyone who was officially wounded at the event (not just from gun shot wounds) fragmentation was a factor in the RFK and Reagan shootings too
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TenementFunster posted:fragmentation was a factor in the RFK Now you've done it
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TenementFunster posted:hell, it wasn’t even an impressive feat of marksmanship or luck like Oswald or Hinkley
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i say swears online posted:(respectfully)
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I have to say the Busch family sounds like monsters but not in any ways that outsize the normal perversions of the ultra wealthy.
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yeah it was kind of an autopilot ep
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To be honest they kind of buried the lede with the car accident. Leaving a dead woman covered in blood at the scene of the crime to just walk home and sleep it off is serial killer level poo poo
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Bust Rodd posted:To be honest they kind of buried the lede with the car accident. Leaving a dead woman covered in blood at the scene of the crime to just walk home and sleep it off is serial killer level poo poo
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Busch IV flying his helicopter full of guns and drugs, emergency landing in a parking lot, and then being unable to lift off because he's too high was pretty great though. Just one of those great wtf moments.
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yea the Busch family are demons but they're pretty normal rich people demons, 100% deserving of nothing but bad things happening to them but not really any special breed of horrific. The 'best' they have is genuinely hilarious cartoon rich person poo poo like, yea, 'I can't fly my helicopter full of drugs and guns, I'm too high from the drugs, better bring it down in this random parking lot'.
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havana syndrome is deffo some American top secret advanced signals intelligence technology that the US is using and just so happens to scramble the brains of its own "diplomats" and spies at the embassies where they are operated. the CIA didn't mind that it was turning some State Deparment nerds into grape jelly so long as they got to listen to every phone call in cuba.Androies posted:Busch IV flying his helicopter full of guns and drugs, emergency landing in a parking lot, and then being unable to lift off because he's too high was pretty great though. Just one of those great wtf moments. TenementFunster fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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Oct 7, 2021 07:58
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Satellite based, drone based, or stationary? Or all three with varying success rates?
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To go back to Paddock and the Vegas shooting. He wasn't just 'crazy' but was your good old fashioned right-wing conspiracy theorist who believed that Hurricane Katrina was a dry run for the the police and military to start kicking down doors and taking away guns. He was obsessed with the idea that people were going to have their guns taken away at any moment and told one friend that “somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves.” For whatever reason the FBI and Police have downplayed his fanaticism even though he was fixated on anti-government conspiracy theories, perceived threats of gun control and taxes. To be sure he was also in declining mental health and his gambling had gotten out of control and it all created a perfect storm, so to speak, but the only reason people think we don't know anything about his motives is that the FBI were downplaying white extremism at the time.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Satellite based, drone based, or stationary? Or all three with varying success rates?
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TenementFunster posted:my guess is stationary equipment on embassy property. the power of anything “wave” based decreases rapidly with distance, which is why it the side effects are felt by those at the embassy. it also requires a shitload of power, and needs to stay hidden. 100% this, though at this point some reports are genuine hysteria and others are deliberate obfuscation.
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