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Latine is a similar and more effective gender inclusive version of Latinos/Latina that is less confusing from a linguistic usage standpoint that is getting traction but still is an umbrella term that may not apply to all people mentioned. There's not going to be a perfect term that CAN act as an umbrella term. When possible, it's best to be specific and concise. I think "people of Central and South America" is broad but concise in definition, if you're not ascribing ethnicity to them, just geography, and that's fine.
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We still have no warehouse staff so the entire office staff of three plus one person's college aged kid shipped over 30% of our inventory out yesterday and my boss was like "well, see ya!" at 10:30am.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:23
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Megillah Gorilla posted:But as someone who is literally on the other side of the world from the Americas, what is a good general way of referring to 'people from Central and South America'? People from South America, people from Central America. There is no need to devolve into some sort of weird 18th century american blood purity rules, where there are some sort of distinct lines separating groups of people. It takes quite the level of audacity to claim that person from Argentina, person from Boliivia, person in Cuba, person in Brasil and person from Puerto Rico are the same. They all have different cultures, histories and experienced. You can just call them Argentinians, Bolivians, Cubans.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:30
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Use the country they are from, unless they request something else. Bing-bang done. Americans have the issue because there is a Census with racial categories that, because the US is full of presidential people, asks for ethnicity then has a separate breakout for Non-White Hispanic or Latino which is where the Latino piece comes up. Also, because Americans have been just presidential as hell for hundreds of years Middle-Eastern descent people are White but there is no breakout for them so the whole thing is both really weird to be asking and also less useful than it could be.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:38
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Obviously the best response to "How do I identify someone?" is "Ask them." Central American or South American should be fine but that sets up the possibility of confusing an Argentinian with a Alabamian, and while Argentinian culture has its issues nobody deserves that.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:39
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"Central and South American" unless otherwise requested, specific countries if possible. "The Americas" or "The Americas aside from the USA and Canada" may or may not work. Outrail posted:Central American or South American should be fine but that sets up the possibility of confusing an Argentinian with a Alabamian, and while Argentinian culture has its issues nobody deserves that. I have never heard someone refer to the American South as South America. It is, for me at least, very linguistically clear that South America begins at Columbia, while The South begins at the Mason Dixon line.
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Oct 2, 2021 22:28
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Volmarias posted:"Central and South American" unless otherwise requested, specific countries if possible. "The Americas" or "The Americas aside from the USA and Canada" may or may not work. I lived in northern PA for a few months. Going by all the confederate flags there, The South probably starts somewhere along the Canadian border.
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Oct 3, 2021 10:44
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Machai posted:I lived in northern PA for a few months. Going by all the confederate flags there, The South probably starts somewhere along the Canadian border. Maybe shift that up to the Alberta/Territories border eh?
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TacticalHoodie posted:So we hired a new supervisor since we couldn't find a suitable candidate internally. First day on the job assumes I am a go-for and wants me to drive 20 minutes into the city to get him a Starbucks coffee and gets upset when I tell him no.He then complains I am being insubordinate to his manager who laughs at him and has to explain I do the accounting and payroll. He then tries to tear a strip off of me this week because some part timers complained that they don't get holiday pay every holiday. This is something they always complain about. The supervisor did not understand that we pay a percentage of the gross earnings once a year for part time employees and he kept trying to tell me I am wrong when it is a company policy. This went on for 30 minutes until I call my boss into the conversation to set him straight. It's not my place/as an expert because I am neither HOWEVER as soon as you see this behaviour, as you did, report it. If someone agrees/calls it out as you did you're on your way. If not, get the fkn hell out. Your life is not worth wasting on assholes who will try to waste you out for their own gains.
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Oct 3, 2021 14:08
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Megillah Gorilla posted:But as someone who is literally on the other side of the world from the Americas, what is a good general way of referring to 'people from Central and South America'? I'm not sure how actually useful it is to lump us all together, but "people from Central and South America" should do it well enough if you really have to. At that point though, you might as well lump everyone from the continent together and call everyone American :p More seriously, i think splitting by nationality is better, as mentioned up thread.
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Oct 3, 2021 15:28
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The problem with using nationality is that the diversity monitoring and the like frequently isn't bothered with that. They're recording "who are racists likely to bully and overlook" rather than the diversity in nations. They want to ask "please locate yourself on this colour chart", but that's not allowed.
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Oct 3, 2021 15:46
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Mormon Nailer posted:We still have no warehouse staff so the entire office staff of three plus one person's college aged kid shipped over 30% of our inventory out yesterday and my boss was like "well, see ya!" at 10:30am. I don’t know your situation at all but this sounds like a dandy reason for you to be jobsearching
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Oct 3, 2021 16:53
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Space Kablooey posted:I'm not sure how actually useful it is to lump us all together, but "people from Central and South America" should do it well enough if you really have to. At that point though, you might as well lump everyone from the continent together and call everyone American :p I was actually asking myself "When would I ever even need to refer to that part of the world while still being so incredibly vague?" because, yeah you're right, it really isn't that useful. But the conversation was saying "Don't use this" so I wondered what could be used that would be acceptable. And thanks to all the posters who helped answer that question.
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Oct 4, 2021 04:48
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The real secret technique in global business is learning how to say "Belgian" with just a hint of sinsitrousness that no one can call you out but everyone knows.
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Oct 4, 2021 04:52
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rotinaj posted:I don’t know your situation at all but this sounds like a dandy reason for you to be jobsearching Lol, I have been. There's some in this thread about it. I'm in process of leaving but they don't know it yet.
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Oct 4, 2021 05:32
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Barudak posted:The real secret technique in global business is learning how to say "Belgian" with just a hint of sinsitrousness that no one can call you out but everyone knows. Sinistrosity Cincinnatious Sinisterre
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Oct 4, 2021 06:58
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On the subject of Central and South America, I have a bunch of friends/colleagues from there and there are very clearly two camps (I don't remember who says what tbh): "DON'T CALL IT SOUTH AMERICA IT'S CENTRAL AMERICA REEEEEE REEEEEE REEEEE" and "Nobody here says central America but whatever". You can tell which people I want to punch in the tits.
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Oct 4, 2021 07:35
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my company just changed gigantic and huge portions of its infrastructure and didn't schedule any trainings, just sent out pdfs/videos. I loving hate that poo poo so much. if you have things you need people to know how to do, put aside the time in the schedule to train them on it. Allow them to interact with it in a safe space with an instructor first before suddenly needing to know it in emergencies and not being able to navigate it. Some people can learn with videos and reading, but some people need that neurotransmitter surge from interacting with another human being to commit it to memory. When we send kids to school, we don't just toss books in their hands and tell them good loving luck. That doesn't stop in adulthood, you don't magically get better at learning in a vacuum suddenly. people who think providing a goddamn pdf on the company HR site is a suitable substitute for training have a special place in hell
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Oct 4, 2021 19:14
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StrangersInTheNight posted:my company just changed gigantic and huge portions of its infrastructure and didn't schedule any trainings, just sent out pdfs/videos. Oh yeah MegaCorp training is such a fraud. Either dumping corporate employees in hours of TED talks or lectures about neuroscience for which a consultant gets six figures and a VP gets to look innovative, or having hundreds of employees show they were marked complete for legally required training despite that because of an error the actual training videos were never made available so nobody could have taken it.
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Oct 4, 2021 20:11
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Our company is getting so big, so fast and so spread out that we can’t send out trainers anymore so they consolidated everything into a lovely Learn site which is basically “PowerPoint on topic X and followed by 2-question test”, and if you’re required to do something it doesn’t mean poo poo if you just don’t care and never do it. No I am not taking a course on how to talk to customers because I don’t ever do that, and I don’t need it, so deal with it. It rules. Previously we were forced to take afternoons like once every two months for some bullshit that didn’t matter. Great, thanks for letting me know that listen is an anagram for silent, which is how we should be in our cubicles, or something.
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Oct 5, 2021 01:05
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There is a guy who got/gets caught jacking off repeatedly at work in weird places but he has a note from his doctor and they can't fire him. It's some kind of Tourette's related thing. Today we were all told that on Tuesday we will have a completely new system instituted for running our time alongside our remaining current one and that our supervisors haven't received training and we won't either, we just need to figure it out.
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Oct 5, 2021 01:38
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So does the jackoff guy still record time on the same project codes as everyone orrrrr what
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Oct 5, 2021 02:03
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nvidiagouge posted:There is a guy who got/gets caught jacking off repeatedly at work in weird places but he has a note from his doctor and they can't fire him. It's some kind of Tourette's related thing. Code all time to ADMIN-Admin and call it a day. It's what I used to do.
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Oct 5, 2021 02:11
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nvidiagouge posted:There is a guy who got/gets caught jacking off repeatedly at work in weird places but he has a note from his doctor and they can't fire him. It's some kind of Tourette's related thing. I think at the White House they called this Executive Time
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Oct 5, 2021 02:12
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Turkey Farts posted:So does the jackoff guy still record time on the same project codes as everyone orrrrr what Jackoff guy worked in the more industrial side of things when I was over there but now I'm on the white collar side in a very soft and quiet office making way more money to do a lot less and it's a weird combo of impostor syndrome and guilt.
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Oct 5, 2021 02:14
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Today I'm brewing my first beer here. It feels a bit rushed and they have been very stop and go but I'm hopeful I can mold this into a decent job with non insane hours once we get it all going. At least they paid me for the month and a half where I wasn't doing anything.
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Turkey Farts posted:So does the jackoff guy still record time on the same project sheets as everyone orrrrr what
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nvidiagouge posted:There is a guy who got/gets caught jacking off repeatedly at work in weird places but he has a note from his doctor and they can't fire him. It's some kind of Tourette's related thing. Livin' the dream.
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Oct 5, 2021 04:47
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AHH F/UGH posted:Our company is getting so big, so fast and so spread out that we can’t send out trainers anymore so they consolidated everything into a lovely Learn site which is basically “PowerPoint on topic X and followed by 2-question test”, and if you’re required to do something it doesn’t mean poo poo if you just don’t care and never do it. No I am not taking a course on how to talk to customers because I don’t ever do that, and I don’t need it, so deal with it. Oh, I love these things for say, work culture seminars and poo poo I'd like to ignore. But this is infrastructure stuff - they changed our entire timeclock system everyone uses every day, and didn't give any training. It has been, as expected, a clusterfuck of epic proportions and now they're having to play catch up with folks to give individual trainings to managers between meetings because payroll hits this week.
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Oct 5, 2021 07:18
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Why is your time sheet blank This is what I was trained to do But we didn't get any training Yes
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nvidiagouge posted:Jackoff guy worked in the more industrial side of things when I was over there but now I'm on the white collar side in a very soft and quiet office making way more money to do a lot less and it's a weird combo of impostor syndrome and guilt. You sound a little stressed. You should go relax, maybe jerk off a bit.
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I really need to explain to the bosses that we really need to pump the breaks on getting the brewery up and running. I get that they want to get tanks filled and beer sold after waiting for 2 and a half years for the license, but if we rush poo poo I'm going to be way behind on getting things calibrated and all that. First brew day was today and I was way off on target gravity. It was a Belgian blonde as opposed to something simpler that would make understanding efficiency way simpler, while being a lot more forgiving with alcohol percentage. On top of that, the hydrometer they got me was too low for measuring original gravity so I had to scramble looking for someone in the area who would be able to lend me theirs. Two places were closed, but fortunately the head brewer of this little place that's almost never opened was there and helped me out. I think they'll actually listen, and I have next week to get things settled and submit recipes to the tax office. Woof.
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Oct 5, 2021 10:43
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Jackoff guy should team up with the bathroom sex whisperer from AAM https://www.askamanager.org/2021/09/my-coworker-keeps-whispering-sexually-explicit-things-in-the-office-bathroom.html
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nvidiagouge posted:There is a guy who got/gets caught jacking off repeatedly at work in weird places but he has a note from his doctor and they can't fire him. It's some kind of Tourette's related thing. A few jobs back there was a guy who was blatantly caught watching porn at work on company time on a company PC. Only one person actually him watching porn but word got around pretty quick and when nothing happened to him everyone in the office got pretty offended. I mean a guy got in trouble for watching The A-Team but this guy gets busted watching "Scottish porn" (that's what the lady who busted him said it was) and nothing, not even a word from management. It wasn't long after that I started looking for another job and the porn-watcher not getting in trouble was one of the reasons.
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Local Weather posted:A few jobs back there was a guy who was blatantly caught watching porn at work on company time on a company PC. Only one person actually him watching porn but word got around pretty quick and when nothing happened to him everyone in the office got pretty offended. I mean a guy got in trouble for watching The A-Team but this guy gets busted watching "Scottish porn" (that's what the lady who busted him said it was) and nothing, not even a word from management. It wasn't long after that I started looking for another job and the porn-watcher not getting in trouble was one of the reasons. After that, any sort of threat of discipline to anyone for anything should surely be met with "so is this more or less serious than Scottish porn?"
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Oct 5, 2021 16:06
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The ol' kilt lifter
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Och aye the nudes
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Atopian posted:After that, any sort of threat of discipline to anyone for anything should surely be met with "so is this more or less serious than Scottish porn?" It's porn that it's unlucky to talk about.
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Oct 5, 2021 17:44
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Local Weather posted:"Scottish porn" (that's what the lady who busted him said it was) Maybe there were 18 holes, each with their own flag pole?
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Aramoro posted:It's porn that it's unlucky to talk about. All hail MacBone, Thanal of Butts! All hail MacBone, Thanal of Money shots! All hail MacBone, King of Porn!
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