|
I'd like to read more about that scenario.
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2021 22:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 02:04 |
|
|
roomtone posted:they should do a movie narrated by ghost paulie. paranormal spooky poo poo. He should turn up at a seance
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2021 23:22
|
|
|
CharlestheHammer posted:I mean couldn’t they just have a character in the movie narrate? I don’t think having a returning cast member actually adds anything other than, I know that character It feels like something the creators knew was risky but they talked themselves into doing it anyway. Yeah if the movie needed a voiceover to assist the narrative or to evoke other celebrated gangster movies or whatever it may have been better to choose a character from this movie, maybe someone tangential to the story but present for some of the events. And for subtlety, someone having no knowledge of a future The Sopranos saga. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 01:17
|
|
|
Mike N Eich posted:Another odd thing strangely omitted from the film : I guess Dickie wasn’t an addict after all? A pivotal scene in the Sopranos is when Christopher reveals to Tony that his father was just another junkie like him, which doesn’t appear to be the case at all. Well at least he was a alcoholic, judging by the amount of hard liquor he was downing in the alleyways between the houses/ Perhaps that wouldn't count to a mob guy though.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 01:23
|
|
|
Haven’t watched Sopranos in years but just finished the movie. Was I supposed to be for or against Harold?? I went the whole movie thinking he was the Bad Guy, but then read someone say he wasn’t. What I expected to happen was for Tony to kill him as revenge because he thought he killed Dickie. I don’t remember if the show ever talked about Tony’s first kill. It really seems like they at least set that up as a sequel. Also, who was the actual shooter? I spent way too long with the movie paused in the first half hour trying to look up family trees because it all makes no sense to me. Eventually I gave up and just accepted it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 01:49
|
|
|
VladimirLeninpest posted:Random, but my favorite line of the movie: tony: “ah cool man, a hamburger” the delivery kills me. Missed opportunity for narrator Christopher to say "you'd be eating lots of those later you fat gently caress" I noticed tony is playing with the dog they give away later. Also, I think Johnnny drops Tony off with the Frank Sinatra Jr tickets and goes to the racetrack that he always went to with Fran Felstein? night slime fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Oct 4, 2021 |
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 02:40
|
|
|
drunken officeparty posted:Haven’t watched Sopranos in years but just finished the movie. Tony's first kill is a black bookie named Willy Overall or something. Paulie and Tony talk about it in Remember When
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 02:45
|
|
|
banned from Starbucks posted:Tony's first kill is a black bookie named Willy Overall or something. Paulie and Tony talk about it in Remember When and presumably there's some relation to leon overall, who's killed in this movie.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 03:11
|
|
|
One bit that cracked me up was the army recruiter throwing his hands up and going,"THIS WAR WASN'T MY IDEA!"  It's not quite "We're with the Cobras!" but it's still good stuff 
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 03:16
|
|
|
drunken officeparty posted:Haven’t watched Sopranos in years but just finished the movie. It seemed to me like the movie wanted me to root for Harold, which 
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 04:00
|
|
|
Some thoughts on the movie: Not nearly as bad as some of the trailers made it out to be but not great either. Some really good parts, but very uneven and unfocused on the whole. It feels like three or four stories running in parallel that don't really have much to do with each other besides featuring some of the same characters, which in itself might not be a problem but here none of them have room to breathe. The race riots and the stuff with Harold could have been interesting, but it all gets shoved to the background after the timeskip and barely gets any resolution. I get the desire to focus on the Tony/Dickie relationship in the latter half of the movie - and maybe that part got played up more when they realised that Michael Gandolfini really can carry the role so well - but it kind of doesn't come together as a whole. Most of the main cast is great. Gandolfini really does work as young Tony, which is a huge relief. Alessandro Nivola and Vera Farmiga especially do some very, very good work too. Ray Liotta playing two characters is a bit silly, but I can't blame them for wanting their money's worth of Liotta. On the other hand, the Guys are honestly pretty bad. The actor who plays Pussy is fine (though he's barely in the movie at all), but Paulie I didn't really like, and Sil is just a cartoon character. It's like a Van-Zandt-does-Al-Pacino level of caricature. He and his comb-over got a laugh out of me in the first scene he was in, but then he ends up getting the most screen time out of the three and his shtick wears out its welcome very fast. Johnny Boy was a bit distracting too, not because the actor does a bad job but just because he's so different from what we saw on the show. Junior didn't really work for me either, I feel like he was made the butt of the movie's jokes a few too many times. Junior is pathetic, but he's very proud too, and Dominic Chianese strikes a very specific balance between the two that I think is what makes the character work so well on the show. Corey Stoll doesn't quite find that same sweetspot, and it could be intentional that he just was more of a dweeb in his younger years and only got that crotchety edge with age, but it still didn't sit right with me. However, the reveal that he was behind Dickie's killing, and for such a petty reason, is a great choice. (I had always suspected Tony was just bullshitting Chris with that cop story, so it's nice to see that confirmed too.) Still, considering he's such a pivotal part of how things end up going, I wish the rest of the movie had done him justice too. References to the show were expected, and I guess I would have been disappointed if I didn't get my varsity athletes and your sister's cunts, but some of those were really forced in there. The beehive shooting felt out of place, and the varsity athlete line was completely different from how it's played in the show - Tony was supposed to be so hurt by that comment that he still remembers it 30 years later, but here he doesn't even react to it, and the way Junior says it it's not even clear if he heard it. Overall though, even if the movie is a bit shaky on its own, I don't think it takes anything away from the show, and what it adds is good stuff. On my next rewatch I can think about gold ingots and hamburgers when Tony is fighting with Livia and about Elavil and pinky swears when Chris is badmouthing Dickie to Tony, and that just deepens the emotional background of the show.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 06:14
|
|
|
TheBuilder posted:I'd like to read more about that scenario. It's not that interesting of a story. My grampa was teaching me how to shoot, and on the way back he dared me to shoot a stop sign from his pickup. I was six or seven at the time, so I can't say exactly how long my ears were ringing, but I'm not deaf now and I don't recall it being all that bad. It might've actually still been the corrupt cop who got Dickie. we never seen the dude, and junior probably would've wanted someone outside the family to take out another capo.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 07:46
|
|
|
Gaius Marius posted:It's not that interesting of a story. My grampa was teaching me how to shoot, and on the way back he dared me to shoot a stop sign from his pickup. I was six or seven at the time, so I can't say exactly how long my ears were ringing, but I'm not deaf now and I don't recall it being all that bad. I disagree, being short doesn’t make a story boring dude. That’s a great loving story that tells me a lot of things about you, your grandpa and your relationship with him.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 10:16
|
|
|
Was all ready to watch last night but gf got asked to be on some stupid committee and they had a meeting that wasn't over til nearly 10 and I had work today soooo looking forward to kicking back tonight and seeing it finally.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 11:49
|
|
|
TheBuilder posted:I assume the POV for the movie is the ghost of Christopher who relays the story with the omnipotence of the afterlife. (Unless we consider he pieces it together from stories he was told after the fact, which wouldn't make any sense with several scenes) Oh, he's got time to narrate what with losing at dice to the Irish for all eternity?
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 12:14
|
|
|
In the opening as they pan over all the graves you hear voices and stuff. And we join Christopher’s mid conversation. I took it to mean that you’re constantly talking about one thing or another when dead.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 13:15
|
|
|
They should have CGI’d 55 year old Michael Imperioli onto baby Christopher like that one Livia scene.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 13:25
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:In the opening as they pan over all the graves you hear voices and stuff. And we join Christopher’s mid conversation. I took it to mean that you’re constantly talking about one thing or another when dead. I also thought we would get a post credit scene that the grave being dug in the background was Tony's, but Christopher's grave looks a little aged and they died not too far apart in retrospective.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 15:08
|
|
|
Vintersorg posted:In the opening as they pan over all the graves you hear voices and stuff. And we join Christopher’s mid conversation. I took it to mean that you’re constantly talking about one thing or another when dead. I sort of like the implication that Christopher knew/learned more about father’s death than what Tony told him about the cop (either before or after death). Before death is definitely more interesting, but most of the scenes in the movie are things that no other characters would know, so maybe Dickie and Chrissy chatted in the Irish bar.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 15:48
|
|
|
stev posted:I get that, and I don't think incorporating Christopher was in itself a bad idea - but having him explicitly be a ghost retelling events that he wasn't present for and didn't know about felt really odd. Especially when he's quipping about how Tony killed him and how he's in hell. https://youtu.be/p46BVoZnb10?t=185
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 16:05
|
|
|
Imperioli being an extremely arrogant jerk kinda soured me on hearing his voice.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:16
|
|
|
Peter Daou Zen posted:Imperioli being an extremely arrogant jerk kinda soured me on hearing his voice. Is that a thing? I gave up on his podcast extremely quickly but mostly because of Steve Shirripa being entirely insufferable.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:27
|
|
|
He's not arrogant, as far as I can comment from not knowing the man and just listening to the podcast. Unless he chose Schirippa specifically to make himself look smart by comparison because he is a little out there himself as opposed to Steve who seems like a nice, average guy but pretty dense overall. I know most have seen it already and I've been spoiled on it too but still kinda spoilery to mention his involvement
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:31
|
|
|
It occurs to me that Season 6 of The Sopranos needs that Twin Peaks Season 2 chart that shows which episodes are worth watching and which are skippable. I've only seen S6 once, and the other seasons two or three times. I'd consider S6 again but skip half of it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:32
|
|
|
Mokelumne Trekka posted:It occurs to me that Season 6 of The Sopranos needs that Twin Peaks Season 2 chart that shows which episodes are worth watching and which are skippable. I've only seen S6 once, and the other seasons two or three times. I'd consider S6 again but skip half of it. S6 is the best season tho
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:33
|
|
|
S6 isn't very much fun but it is good and important. Except for anything involving vito
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:37
|
|
|
Mokelumne Trekka posted:It occurs to me that Season 6 of The Sopranos needs that Twin Peaks Season 2 chart that shows which episodes are worth watching and which are skippable. I've only seen S6 once, and the other seasons two or three times. I'd consider S6 again but skip half of it. Unbelievably horrible post
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:48
|
|
|
You can skip most the Vito stuff it’s just kind of boring. Well except the first scene after he comes out and he realizes he is actually really good at antiquing. Because he’s gay you see?
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 18:52
|
|
|
I think season 6 is fabulous but can definitely understand why people feel mixed about it. It’s a real Bad Time. I wonder how people would feel about it if it was clearly broken up into season 6 and season 7, instead of the weird 6a, 6b thing they did (which I believe was a way by production to avoid paying a lot of the actors salaries)
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 19:21
|
|
|
David Chase still refers to them as season six and season seven.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 19:32
|
|
|
stev posted:S6 is the best season tho Actually I take it back, the Cleaver stuff is terrible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 19:35
|
|
|
Much like a child, a film has many parents.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 20:11
|
|
|
I don’t think it being two seasons woukd change to much. Like I have problems with some of the sub plots but I don’t think a new season would change them much. Unless they get more episodes then maybe the gang war would get more time to breathe
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 20:24
|
|
|
I don't mind much about the gang war except its very bizarre for Butchie to say "it's gone too far, maybe we should [parlay]" to Phil when they literally have suffered zero losses and have nearly wiped out the leadership of the New Jersey group. It's like there was maybe a few scenes written with some New York guys getting whacked but never shot or cut.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 21:59
|
|
|
stev posted:Is that a thing? I gave up on his podcast extremely quickly but mostly because of Steve Shirripa being entirely insufferable. After being at the Sopranos Con and talking with the guys who organized the thing, I had a different impression of the actors. codo27 posted:He's not arrogant, as far as I can comment from not knowing the man and just listening to the podcast. Unless he chose Schirippa specifically to make himself look smart by comparison because he is a little out there himself as opposed to Steve who seems like a nice, average guy but pretty dense overall. Unfortunately, he has a bit of an ego and wouldn't show up at the convention because he didn't have complete artistic control over it. This guy tho! He's the best. Would talk to him about the jacket 10/10 
Peter Daou Zen fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Oct 4, 2021 |
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 22:09
|
|
|
Did Proval demonstrate a fake punch for you too?
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 22:10
|
|
|
Pope Corky the IX posted:Did Proval demonstrate a fake punch for you too? No Al Sapienza did tho
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 22:14
|
|
|
Mike N Eich posted:I don't mind much about the gang war except its very bizarre for Butchie to say "it's gone too far, maybe we should [parlay]" to Phil when they literally have suffered zero losses and have nearly wiped out the leadership of the New Jersey group. It's like there was maybe a few scenes written with some New York guys getting whacked but never shot or cut. That’s my main problem, they want to present it a vicious war but it’s just Tony loving up and getting owned? Plus these guys were the ones wanting the war. Which is a fine plot point in that they get cold feet when suffering actual consequences but it never happens
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 22:21
|
|
|
I think Butchie is saying that out of sheer frustration that Phil has abandoned them all to go hide, and they are taking orders from a leader in absentia. Atleast Tony stayed with his guys.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 22:36
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 02:04 |
|
|
Peter Daou Zen posted:Imperioli being an extremely arrogant jerk kinda soured me on hearing his voice. What did do? He seems nice enough.
|
|
#
?
Oct 4, 2021 23:42
|
|
