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She's part Metroid which is why she can't use the ice beam directly and uses ice missiles and also why the SAX using the ice beam kills her pretty much instantly
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Araxxor posted:For the mutant Samus is by the end of Fusion, X isn't part of it. Maybe, assuming the SA-X didn't save her during the events of Dread somehow. That’s definitely the worst thing about Zero Mission. Getting 100% is super annoying. Samus Returns has like a handful of items that require the baby (the baby) but they are all very close to warp points so maybe they’ve learned their lesson? The movement in Fusion is very tight, to the point of feeling extremely stiff, but I never felt it was detrimental to the game as a whole.
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Oct 3, 2021 00:39
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Veotax posted:This is cool and I had no idea it existed, there was a Metroid CYOA / singleplayer pen & paper RPG released in Japan after the original game came out:  Really interesting interpretation of Metroid's suit as a fabric jumpsuit with only a few bits of hard armor. Also, that broken spine. Araxxor posted:For the mutant Samus is by the end of Fusion, X isn't part of it.
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Oct 3, 2021 07:17
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The United States posted:She absorbed the SA-X in fusion and regained her ability to use the ice beam, but who knows what that means for her DNA. I always interpreted it as absorbing the SA-X gave her back enough of her original DNA that it "diluted" the Metroid DNA enough to allow her to use the Ice Beam without any negative effects.
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Oct 3, 2021 07:28
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it probably 'stabilized' her dna to some degree. i mostly hope the metroid dna part is still relevant in a cool way instead of just being discarded, i guess.
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Oct 3, 2021 14:00
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Johnny Joestar posted:it probably 'stabilized' her dna to some degree. i mostly hope the metroid dna part is still relevant in a cool way instead of just being discarded, i guess. Grapple Voltage, only you're using the signature Metroid energy drain.
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Oct 3, 2021 14:10
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Johnny Joestar posted:it probably 'stabilized' her dna to some degree. i mostly hope the metroid dna part is still relevant in a cool way instead of just being discarded, i guess. Entirely unmentioned except for the ending pinups where she's a weird Predator-mouthed space vampire.
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Oct 3, 2021 15:09
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So that's where Samus in a cloak comes from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6wL52BE2Po Elfface posted:Entirely unmentioned except for the ending pinups where she's a weird Predator-mouthed space vampire. BisbyWorl posted:Grapple Voltage, only you're using the signature Metroid energy drain. 
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Oct 3, 2021 17:11
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I'm not convinced that her being unable to use the ice beam upgrade was ever an actual issue, remember that the federation was actively trying to keep her as weak as possible during that whole thing so lying to her about what upgrades she could get wouldn't be out of the question.
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Oct 3, 2021 17:18
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Johnny Joestar posted:it probably 'stabilized' her dna to some degree. i mostly hope the metroid dna part is still relevant in a cool way instead of just being discarded, i guess. no i want samus to retire happily 
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Oct 3, 2021 17:21
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Eopia posted:I'm not convinced that her being unable to use the ice beam upgrade was ever an actual issue, remember that the federation was actively trying to keep her as weak as possible during that whole thing so lying to her about what upgrades she could get wouldn't be out of the question. given that the ice beam literally froze her when used on her by the sa-x i don't think anything was being exaggerated or lied about in that scenario
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Oct 3, 2021 17:23
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I beat Super Metroid for the first time last night. I've only made to to Maridia before. That pipe you have to super bomb stumped me last time. I'm glad to have finally done it, great feeling  Time 5:16 Items: 61% Animals: Saved I had seen the ending before courtesy of watching a roommate play through it a few years ago but it was still a total rush when playing through it myself. I'm so hyped for Dread!
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Oct 3, 2021 17:25
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Lady Radia posted:no i want samus to retire happily Happy retirement for Samus is a nice quiet planet with lots of space pirates to shoot
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Oct 3, 2021 18:59
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Lady Radia posted:no i want samus to retire happily Retirement is when she stops losing her suit powerups and can just enjoy what she's earned (while she slaughters the populations of a few more planets).
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Oct 3, 2021 19:02
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as soon as i saw the giant-rear end pipe in the Metroid Dread trailers i started smiling because i knew what was going to happen to that pipe.
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Oct 3, 2021 19:19
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For whatever reason I haven't watched a single trailer after the initial reveal and even looked away from the screen during the last Direct when it showed Dread stuff, I don't know why but I want to go into this completely spoiler free (well, mostly, I did hear that Kraid is in it but that isn't a big deal). I'm kind of excited since I haven't done that with a game in a long time.
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Oct 3, 2021 19:30
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Eopia posted:I'm not convinced that her being unable to use the ice beam upgrade was ever an actual issue, remember that the federation was actively trying to keep her as weak as possible during that whole thing so lying to her about what upgrades she could get wouldn't be out of the question. I think there's part of the game that has her get really damaged just by going in a cold room. So having something cold as part of the metallic remains of her suit would probably hurt her hand / arm alot too. Frost bitten fingers at worst, maybe. But I imagine it would be an issue if she kept it on long term. Thematically, anyway.
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Oct 3, 2021 19:54
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Hrist posted:I think there's part of the game that has her get really damaged just by going in a cold room. So having something cold as part of the metallic remains of her suit would probably hurt her hand / arm alot too. Frost bitten fingers at worst, maybe. But I imagine it would be an issue if she kept it on long term. Thematically, anyway. Yes, the extreme cold in rooms found in Fusion affected her due to being injected with Metroid DNA, with which the Varia suit helped. It's the opposite to the usual exteme heat damage/protection from other Metroid games.
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Oct 3, 2021 19:58
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There were also the giant blue X that froze themselves and would actively seek Samus out, so that Samus would absorb them and get frozen from the inside. At least until you got the Varia Suit and then they quickly realized that the trick wouldn’t work anymore.
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Oct 3, 2021 20:49
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Johnny Joestar posted:given that the ice beam literally froze her when used on her by the sa-x i don't think anything was being exaggerated or lied about in that scenario I meant her inability to use the ice beam, not being weak against it when used against her, especially once she had the Varia suit back and no longer had a weakness to cold.
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Oct 3, 2021 21:08
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I'm replaying Metroid Fusion in advance of Dread and it's either a lot harder than I remember or I'm now an old man who's bad at games. Some of these bosses are messing me up. I'm also ashamed to report that in my last run through Super Metroid, one of my all-time favorites that I have played through at least once a year since 1994, I was 3 missile packs short of 100%. 
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Oct 3, 2021 21:56
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97%? bounty hunter license revoked!
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Oct 3, 2021 23:58
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A fun first-timer playthrough of Super Metroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxbOKZIzKN0
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Oct 4, 2021 00:05
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Now that I think about it I've never gotten 100% in Super Metroid, I always end with every energy/sub tank, and 50 super missiles and power bombs, so it's always missile tanks that prevent me from getting 100%. I feel like I've even gone through every room in the game with the X-Ray Scope and still never gotten everything.
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Oct 4, 2021 00:26
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I only got 100 percent in samus returns (cuz it was easy to do) and fusion (cuz 13 year old me had infinite time and patience for it). Its never neccesary to beat the game so i dont see the point usually
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Oct 4, 2021 00:46
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100% is more of a side thing because generally you get flooded with Missiles and such that running out is never really a threat as long as you grab a good portion of them.Eopia posted:I'm not convinced that her being unable to use the ice beam upgrade was ever an actual issue, remember that the federation was actively trying to keep her as weak as possible during that whole thing so lying to her about what upgrades she could get wouldn't be out of the question. I think it was more they were interested in saving the station at first, and that plan quickly went to poo poo, cause they were trying to power her up and developed the Plasma Beam for her to fight back against the SA-X. Then at some point the idea of trying to control the SA-X (as suicidal as it was) came to them and they started withholding poo poo when they realized Samus would ruin that plan. Samus just got the rest of the upgrades through the Core-X despite their efforts to foil that. There was basically nothing left to save at that point anyways. Not saying they weren't being shady from the beginning given the whole developing Metroids for "peaceful purposes" aspect for one.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Now that I think about it I've never gotten 100% in Super Metroid, I always end with every energy/sub tank, and 50 super missiles and power bombs, so it's always missile tanks that prevent me from getting 100%. I feel like I've even gone through every room in the game with the X-Ray Scope and still never gotten everything. i can think of a few scenarios where the x-ray visor and power bombs wouldnt save you and neither would any natural suggestions from the map or environment a blind 100% super metroid odyssey is exclusively for lost souls
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Spoiler clips if you want to look at them, knock yourself out https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/q09ktr/leaked_metroid_dread_clips/ Gonna say that Samus speaking the chozo language owns
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Oct 4, 2021 12:33
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Bye goons see you on the safer side of two weeks
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Oct 4, 2021 13:19
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Twelve by Pies posted:Now that I think about it I've never gotten 100% in Super Metroid, I always end with every energy/sub tank, and 50 super missiles and power bombs, so it's always missile tanks that prevent me from getting 100%. I feel like I've even gone through every room in the game with the X-Ray Scope and still never gotten everything.
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Oct 4, 2021 14:18
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I don't think I've ever broken the 75% completion mark on a Metroid game. And why the hell should I?!
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The United States posted:Spoiler clips if you want to look at them, knock yourself out They all just got obliterated by ToS cops.
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Oct 4, 2021 15:59
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stev posted:I don't think I've ever broken the 75% completion mark on a Metroid game. And why the hell should I?! Starting with Fusion they started giving you different ending screens based on your completion percentage, like under three hours with 100% gives you a different one than under three hours with less than that. There's also different endings for low completion percentages too.
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Oct 4, 2021 16:02
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I always end up doing a 100% run on a separate file, because Metroid games are balanced in a way that getting more than about 40% items just increases the degree to which you can absolutely clown on the final boss, which I find can be a little anticlimatic. Once I've beaten the game once, collecting everything and fighting them again in Full Clown Mode is a lot of fun.
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Oct 4, 2021 16:11
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Raylax posted:I always end up doing a 100% run on a separate file, because Metroid games are balanced in a way that getting more than about 40% items just increases the degree to which you can absolutely clown on the final boss, which I find can be a little anticlimatic. Once I've beaten the game once, collecting everything and fighting them again in Full Clown Mode is a lot of fun. same here. i'm about to replay Fusion and fuuuuuuck I hope Dread is good
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Oct 4, 2021 16:41
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I'm the opposite, I go for 100% on my first run because absolutely destroying the bosses only drives home how powerful Samus is and that every space pirate must be an idiot for standing in her way.
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Oct 4, 2021 18:34
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The way the space pirate logs talk about Samus as this terrifying unstoppable force is one of many great things about the Prime games.
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Oct 4, 2021 18:35
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That's true, but I also like the pirates, or at least the mad experiments they've been working on, to still be a credible threat. I can understand individual pirate soldiers being like "wow we are hosed if Samus gets in here", but if they've spent years developing an ultra phazon-infused omega pirate 3 times samus's size, I want to still feel like that thing's actually a credible threat. Samus is great when she's a badass but she's boring when she's untouchable.
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Oct 4, 2021 18:51
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The best pirate logs are in Echoes where they describe the pirates being pincered between Dark Samus, Real Samus, and the Ing.
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I’m partial to the pirate log where they tried to recreate morph ball technology and horribly crushed and mangled the test subjects.
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