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Lascivious Sloth posted:It will have been three months between Pfizer shots for me when I can get my next. I hope that doesn't lose its effectiveness. I'll try and get a third a few months after as well. In the UK they were originally doing a 3 week gap on Pfizer until a study found that a 12 week gap gave a much higher antibody response: https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/latest/2021/05/covid-pfizer-vaccination-interval-antibody-response.aspx They eventually rounded that down to an 8 week gap pretty much to speed up the vaxx rollout: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57929953 Australia was doing a 12 week gap on AstraZeneca because we thought we had loooooooooooads of time and weren't in any rush but then we started getting some serious outbreaks of the delta variant so the government suddenly cut the gap in half to speed things along
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You can also book a Covid-19 Antibody Titer Test which measures your current level of antibodies if you're really worried your protection levels are dropping. I don't know where you are and what'd be available near you so you'd have to google to see who administers the test locally, or whether you can get a home/mail away test
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 10:20 |
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Thanks y'all. And if I got a third Pfizer, what's the recommended wait on that?
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Lascivious Sloth posted:Thanks y'all. And if I got a third Pfizer, what's the recommended wait on that? Israel’s criterion is no earlier than five months.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I believe there has been some speculation that 21 days is too short, anyway, and the protection is a bit better spaced farther out. The extra week delay might be part of the reason why Moderna is showing better results in general. There aren't any studies that show this. Any studies that look at the the number of antibodies in an individual show an "equivalent" level over the long term, regardless of dose spacing. We don't have any information for less than 3 weeks or after 6 months because that hasn't really been studied. You might be thinking of studies that examine resistance in populations as a whole, where given a limited vaccination supply and capacity, getting more first doses in people's arms leads to better outcomes.
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 11:09 |
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Johnson & Johnson’s dick graph has stiff competition The article is hogwash. I just think we should all appreciate the æsthetics.
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Platystemon posted:
Oh poo poo, the motherfuckin' Covid-19 Scenario Modeling Hub and their poo poo-tastic "scenarios". Let me just reach for my handy pre-written screeds about those dumbasses ..... Snowglobe of Doom posted:If you click through to the COVID19 Scenario Modeling Hub website you can see their previous models overlaid with the subsequent real world data and their hit rate is absolute dog poo poo. They're remarkably bad. Snowglobe of Doom posted:By the way if anyone was wondering why these chucklefucks got it so wrong, it was because almost all of them either underestimated the increased transmissability of delta or just plain ignored it: tl;dr: their models have a history of being incredibly wrong and massively over optimistic, and the one guy in the 'hub' that made some decent predictions that closely matched what eventually happened in the real world says bad poo poo is on the horizon E: one of the other models used for the modeling hub 'scenarios' is from IHME research institute (who are funded by Bill Gates, the CDC, Saudi Arabia and others) who you might remember from these 2020 covid classic moments: Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:Millions of people in the UK and Canada had their second shot at twelve weeks and they’re doing great. Or longer in the case of Canada. Some people were closer to four weeks and by all indications it seems fine. There was no set interval, just a minimum of 3-4 weeks and a maximum of 16 due to supply and prioritizing first shots.
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 15:05 |
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We have all this gobbledygook but nothing matters more than getting your family vaccinated. I like that it also helps others.
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PhazonLink posted:maybe I'm too hyper cynical, but there's probably going to be a massive spike in fake vac cards and other fake poo poo, and I hope the legal machine has reforge their hammer into an ax for these fakers. Good. Then we get throw chuds in jail instead of just firing them.
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 16:45 |
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I'll never forgive covid for convincing every loving moron in my life they're suddenly a biology genius who's opinions need to be heard by everyone. On a daily basis I get these loving dipshits sidling up to me to drop their little truth bombs. One of my buddies, who use to be very reasonable has fallen down the youtube pipeline to alt-right. He's not a dummy, in his particular field he's very smart but he's never had any interest in biology or healthcare. Now he's just full of these Just Asking Questions bullshit, and if I actually engage and answer it's automatically "oh so you seriously just trust the media/big pharma/government?". Accuses me of watching too much CNN. We're loving canadian I don't know anyone who watches CNN. Talking heads on youtube doesn't count as media and is 100% trustworthy with no ulterior motive, I guess. Dude had a meltdown because he saw the word "equity" in some work materials. Must be one of their brainwash trigger words because he was so goddamn mad about the cultural marxists and the post-modernism blahblahblah it was about loving finances and had nothing to do with anything. Of course he's real worried about what's in the vaccine, despite horking back literally any drug you put in front of him.
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spunkshui posted:Good. yeah we definitely need to infect jails with covid on a worse level than they already are. come on dude.
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The Fattest PI posted:Of course he's real worried about what's in the vaccine, despite horking back literally any drug you put in front of him. When some of my cousin's raver friends were challenged on this apparent contradiction, the reply was simple, if they take a pill, they know what they're getting and it's out of their system after a couple of hours anyway. Very reasonable, sensible people, yes.
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The Fattest PI posted:I'll never forgive covid for convincing every loving moron in my life they're suddenly a biology genius who's opinions need to be heard by everyone. lol does he work in fin or banking? I hope the melt down happen in view of his boss and the boss said stfu and calm down and if you do that again you will be fired. lol at not getting words have multiple meanings and stuff, but I guess thats all relative and a liberal claptrap. e: drat I need to read better, it was in fin usage. what a drat moron.
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 20:52 |
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He is the dang boss haha Just flipflops from being likeable and intelligent with progressive takes, to being straight up CHUD poo poo. The other day at work he came into my office and was complaining about some poo poo to do with COVID and restrictions, and I just made a glib comment intended to de-rail, but it got him going and I engaged against my better judgement. Wasn't angry, but it was heated. At one point we hear a voice from down the hall chime in with "at Nuremburg they executed people for putting foreign unknown substances in people's bodies" Came from the one old guy who's great, usually, but just this giant slow plodding dude. Made for a great derail from the dumb argument we were having because I was like "yeah foreign substances like loving BULLETS". Then I just didn't let that go and tried drilling down into it because it makes a fantastic little one off facebook quip, where he obviously read it, but it's hilariously nonsensical. So now I just occasionally tie random poo poo into nuremburg/the holocaust with the same absurd reductionism. "Oh you need me to fill out my timesheets for this week? Hm. They executed people in nuremburg for their well kept records you know"
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The Fattest PI posted:He is the dang boss haha I love hearing the stupid Nuremberg code argument. Why yes, enforcing a vaccine mandate/passport is the exact same thing as Dr Mengele injecting dye into people's eyeballs to see if they will turn blue.
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# ? Oct 3, 2021 21:31 |
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The "science" the nazis were doing included sewing people together to see what would happen. It's not an example of why science or scientists are bad, but an example of how the nazis were incompetent and sadistic. I think the "best" medical science data they produced from their experimentation was the hypothermia stuff, but it's still completely worthless because it didn't follow the scientific method at all. They just threw some random dudes in ice and started a stopwatch and then were like "whoaaaa it took 13 minutes for that guy to die, crazy. Grab another one" I'm sure there's some data that could be achieved if you had zero worries about empathy or morality or ethics, but those loving idiots couldn't even get that right. Instead they were like "lets sew this dudes arm on that dude, then later maybe we can add russia to the list of countries to fight im sure we'll be done this whole war by winter we are extremely smart"
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The Fattest PI posted:then later maybe we can add russia to the list of countries to fight im sure we'll be done this whole war by winter we are extremely smart" Also don't bother making any winter clothing for our soldiers since that is just admitting we are not confident that we will win before it starts snowing.
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Vakal posted:Also don't bother making any winter clothing for our soldiers since that is just admitting we are not confident that we will win before it starts snowing. lmao I didn't know they were *that* stupid "And we're not sending you any rations either boys we expect it all to be done by dinner"
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Strategic Tea posted:lmao I didn't know they were *that* stupid Those snappy uniforms were fitted, inefficient to make, and awkward to wear, if memory serves. There were massive inefficiencies and style over substance in a lot of Nazi poo poo.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Those snappy uniforms were fitted, inefficient to make, and awkward to wear, if memory serves. There were massive inefficiencies and style over substance in a lot of Nazi poo poo. And contained a lot of rayon (a synthetic fibre) which is not the best for cold/wet conditions.
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And wool, which meant the nazis could be detected from far off by their stench.
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The Fattest PI posted:The "science" the nazis were doing included sewing people together to see what would happen. It's not an example of why science or scientists are bad, but an example of how the nazis were incompetent and sadistic. I think the "best" medical science data they produced from their experimentation was the hypothermia stuff, but it's still completely worthless because it didn't follow the scientific method at all. They just threw some random dudes in ice and started a stopwatch and then were like "whoaaaa it took 13 minutes for that guy to die, crazy. Grab another one" Not to mention they were doing this to starving prisoners, so their “findings” would never have been of great use to the world at large.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Lots of caulk lovers in these forums for sure There's also at least one completely brain dead idiot on this forum as well (username: Comfy Fleece Sweater)
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# ? Oct 4, 2021 03:00 |
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The covid thread has taken a dark turn
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# ? Oct 4, 2021 03:36 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Mild can still be bad. Remember that study of college athletes? Young, healthy guys in the prime of their life and months after infection 15% of them had signs of heart injury. Sorry this was from a couple pages back, but I'm catching up with the thread. I've seen stuff like this about people showing signs of organ damage months after a covid infection a few times now. It sounds really bad, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if this is common to a lot of infections that cause inflammation through the whole body, high fever, and a big immune response. Does anyone happen to know how this compares to other common infections like flu, strep throat, encephalitis/meningitis, etc. that also cause a lot of inflammation? When I get colds/flus I bounce back right in a week or two most of the time, but a couple times I remember feeling winded and fatigued and just couldn't exercise as hard for a few months after a bad flu. I'm not saying iT's JuSt ThE fLu!!! I'm just wondering if "long" symptoms to similar infections were already common, and we're finding it more now just because everyone is hyper-focused on studying anything/everything about covid, whereas flu, etc. are old news.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXkYY2BW3xk
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Eat poo poo corporations I'm never going back!
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Wendigee posted:Eat poo poo corporations I'm never going back! Joke's on them, I never started
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I really don't think this corporation is right for my Dad, I'm going to have him work from home.
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Bad Purchase posted:Sorry this was from a couple pages back, but I'm catching up with the thread. I've seen stuff like this about people showing signs of organ damage months after a covid infection a few times now. It sounds really bad, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if this is common to a lot of infections that cause inflammation through the whole body, high fever, and a big immune response. Does anyone happen to know how this compares to other common infections like flu, strep throat, encephalitis/meningitis, etc. that also cause a lot of inflammation? Yeah, probably. I've had that same experience of a bad chest cold that lasts less than two weeks but leaves months of fatigue and nagging cough. My mom has had pneumonia a few times and each time leave long term (permanent?) lung damage. My mom moved out of assisted living and in with me because her last year there she caught pneumonia twice. It was a reasonably nice place but the dining room packed them in like sardines and let obviously ill residents eat in the crowded dining room with everyone else despite that being against the rules. The place was like an elementary school with all the colds and stuff constantly blowing through. Picachu faces all around when covid started burning through care homes.
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# ? Oct 4, 2021 06:31 |
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I've had pneumonia a bunch of times, so probably have some scarring, but my subjective experience was usually recovering pretty fast. It does make me nervous about covid, though. I think the last time I felt recovery stretched out longer was my last bad case of the flu, I think H1N1, which took me out for like a week and took another week or two to feel normal again.
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Tunicate posted:And wool, which meant the nazis could be detected from far off by their stench. Everybody wore wool, everybody stank... don't know where you were going with this. I heard that NZ was relaxing things, what % over there are double vaxxed?
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Cessna posted:I've had my hands on originals, and they're sooooo bad. The smock is that canvas-y duck material. It does NOT breathe at all; it's like a canvas trash bag. So your Nazi soldier is wearing:
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# ? Oct 4, 2021 08:36 |
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Clarification received. Think the US marines wore jungle suit onesies in the Pacific for a time in WW2 as well.
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Just Another Lurker posted:I heard that NZ was relaxing things, what % over there are double vaxxed? Come on, it was literally the first result for "new zealand covid vaccinations"
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Bad Purchase posted:It sounds really bad, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if this is common to a lot of infections that cause inflammation through the whole body, high fever, and a big immune response... Yes. 14% of people with mono get hepatitis. It also causes myocarditis at some other rate. It's still bad but it's nothing new.
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# ? Oct 4, 2021 11:18 |
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So we've been taking baby aspirin ever since early days. Good idea? Pointless?
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Beachcomber posted:So we've been taking baby aspirin ever since early days. Good idea? Pointless? Might help, no real studies that I've seen but the mechanism is plausible
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