Lascivious Sloth posted:

It will have been three months between Pfizer shots for me when I can get my next. I hope that doesn't lose its effectiveness. I'll try and get a third a few months after as well.

Lascivious Sloth posted:

Thanks y'all. And if I got a third Pfizer, what's the recommended wait on that?

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I believe there has been some speculation that 21 days is too short, anyway, and the protection is a bit better spaced farther out. The extra week delay might be part of the reason why Moderna is showing better results in general.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor.

Platystemon posted:

Johnson & Johnson’s dick graph has stiff competition

The article is hogwash. I just think we should all appreciate the æsthetics.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

If you click through to the COVID19 Scenario Modeling Hub website you can see their previous models overlaid with the subsequent real world data and their hit rate is absolute dog poo poo. They're remarkably bad.

They always predict that cases will drop away to zero fairly soon and at worst there might be a slight wave so if cases actually do drop off they get some fairly close fitting models, and they were doing well around the new year. The actual data mostly fell outside their 95% confidence level shaded area but they eventually caught up again after a few months:


Their models from February onwards, on the other had, completely poo poo the bed:






Basically it's pure dumb luck whether their models work out and they're absolutely incapable of accurately predicting an increase in cases

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

By the way if anyone was wondering why these chucklefucks got it so wrong, it was because almost all of them either underestimated the increased transmissability of delta or just plain ignored it:



If you separate out the models it turns out the team from the University of Southern California (actually just a lone Research Assistant Professor) got some pretty good fits:


The bad news is that dude's current models predict that cases will either level off around Xmas time and start increasing again or we'll get a new scary variant and get massively overrun. (Note how his 95% confidence level blue shaded area explodes out the top of the graph in scenarios C and D)

Platystemon posted:

Millions of people in the UK and Canada had their second shot at twelve weeks and they’re doing great.

PhazonLink posted:

maybe I'm too hyper cynical, but there's probably going to be a massive spike in fake vac cards and other fake poo poo, and I hope the legal machine has reforge their hammer into an ax for these fakers.

spunkshui posted:

Good.

Then we get throw chuds in jail instead of just firing them.

The Fattest PI posted:

Of course he's real worried about what's in the vaccine, despite horking back literally any drug you put in front of him.

The Fattest PI posted:

I'll never forgive covid for convincing every loving moron in my life they're suddenly a biology genius who's opinions need to be heard by everyone.

On a daily basis I get these loving dipshits sidling up to me to drop their little truth bombs. One of my buddies, who use to be very reasonable has fallen down the youtube pipeline to alt-right. He's not a dummy, in his particular field he's very smart but he's never had any interest in biology or healthcare.
Now he's just full of these Just Asking Questions bullshit, and if I actually engage and answer it's automatically "oh so you seriously just trust the media/big pharma/government?". Accuses me of watching too much CNN. We're loving canadian I don't know anyone who watches CNN. Talking heads on youtube doesn't count as media and is 100% trustworthy with no ulterior motive, I guess.
Dude had a meltdown because he saw the word "equity" in some work materials. Must be one of their brainwash trigger words because he was so goddamn mad about the cultural marxists and the post-modernism blahblahblah it was about loving finances and had nothing to do with anything.

Of course he's real worried about what's in the vaccine, despite horking back literally any drug you put in front of him.

The Fattest PI posted:

He is the dang boss haha

Just flipflops from being likeable and intelligent with progressive takes, to being straight up CHUD poo poo. The other day at work he came into my office and was complaining about some poo poo to do with COVID and restrictions, and I just made a glib comment intended to de-rail, but it got him going and I engaged against my better judgement. Wasn't angry, but it was heated. At one point we hear a voice from down the hall chime in with "at Nuremburg they executed people for putting foreign unknown substances in people's bodies"

Came from the one old guy who's great, usually, but just this giant slow plodding dude. Made for a great derail from the dumb argument we were having because I was like "yeah foreign substances like loving BULLETS". Then I just didn't let that go and tried drilling down into it because it makes a fantastic little one off facebook quip, where he obviously read it, but it's hilariously nonsensical. So now I just occasionally tie random poo poo into nuremburg/the holocaust with the same absurd reductionism.

"Oh you need me to fill out my timesheets for this week? Hm. They executed people in nuremburg for their well kept records you know"

The Fattest PI posted:

then later maybe we can add russia to the list of countries to fight im sure we'll be done this whole war by winter we are extremely smart"

Vakal posted:

Also don't bother making any winter clothing for our soldiers since that is just admitting we are not confident that we will win before it starts snowing.

Strategic Tea posted:

lmao I didn't know they were *that* stupid

"And we're not sending you any rations either boys we expect it all to be done by dinner"

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Those snappy uniforms were fitted, inefficient to make, and awkward to wear, if memory serves. There were massive inefficiencies and style over substance in a lot of Nazi poo poo.

The Fattest PI posted:

The "science" the nazis were doing included sewing people together to see what would happen. It's not an example of why science or scientists are bad, but an example of how the nazis were incompetent and sadistic. I think the "best" medical science data they produced from their experimentation was the hypothermia stuff, but it's still completely worthless because it didn't follow the scientific method at all. They just threw some random dudes in ice and started a stopwatch and then were like "whoaaaa it took 13 minutes for that guy to die, crazy. Grab another one"

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Lots of caulk lovers in these forums for sure

Facebook Aunt posted:

Mild can still be bad. Remember that study of college athletes? Young, healthy guys in the prime of their life and months after infection 15% of them had signs of heart injury.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...utm_term=091120

It's a worry if a cohort that should be among the very healthiest and lowest-risk Americans available has long term damage after covid. It was a small sample size so maybe it's just a coincidence or all those guys had some other factor in common. Maybe they were all snorting weasel dust to get through finals or something.

Wendigee posted:

Eat poo poo corporations I'm never going back!

Bad Purchase posted:

Sorry this was from a couple pages back, but I'm catching up with the thread. I've seen stuff like this about people showing signs of organ damage months after a covid infection a few times now. It sounds really bad, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if this is common to a lot of infections that cause inflammation through the whole body, high fever, and a big immune response. Does anyone happen to know how this compares to other common infections like flu, strep throat, encephalitis/meningitis, etc. that also cause a lot of inflammation?

When I get colds/flus I bounce back right in a week or two most of the time, but a couple times I remember feeling winded and fatigued and just couldn't exercise as hard for a few months after a bad flu. I'm not saying iT's JuSt ThE fLu!!! I'm just wondering if "long" symptoms to similar infections were already common, and we're finding it more now just because everyone is hyper-focused on studying anything/everything about covid, whereas flu, etc. are old news.

Tunicate posted:

And wool, which meant the nazis could be detected from far off by their stench.

Cessna posted:

I've had my hands on originals, and they're sooooo bad. The smock is that canvas-y duck material. It does NOT breathe at all; it's like a canvas trash bag. So your Nazi soldier is wearing:

- a ribbed sleeveless ("wife beater") undershirt.
- a "service shirt." This is sort of like a cotton men's dress shirt, but thicker and longer - that is, it hangs down well below the waist.
- a wool "feldbluse." Scratchy thick wool.
- that canvas-duck smock.
- leather field gear and equipment.

It's a mess - way too hot in the summer, nowhere near enough to stay warm in the winter. Nothing is waterproof. It all smells like wet dog.* The WWII gear I'm most familiar with is US, and it is a generation ahead of the German crap.

* Sometimes you can read WWII memoirs where they talk about going out on patrol and finding Germans by smelling them. "I could just smell the Nazis." Before I did reenacting I thought this was an exaggeration, a soldier's hyperbole. Having done reenacting, it's totally legit. Get that wool uniform and leather field gear wet and it smells like wet dog. It's a really distinctive smell. I can easily imagine if you get a company of troopers wet, and add in tobacco and maybe a cooking fire and you could smell them hundreds of yards away.


The smock wasn't. The feldbluse was. I have never seen a WWII German feldbluse (the solid green/gray wool jackets) without some sort of tailoring.

If it means anything, they had unit tailors assigned as a section at the battalion level. Yes, this is insane.

(I always picture a battalion being overrun by T-34s while their sewing section commander yells "Sew faster, Hans! Faster!")


All of their stuff looks weird.


And the trousers - regular uniform trousers - were held up by their own suspenders, which needed unbuttoned as well.

Hey, if it means anything, their early-war paratroopers had it worse. Their Fallschirmjagers (paratroopers, and I'm too lazy to put the umlaut over the "a") were set up to jump from low altitudes. They wore a distinctive jumper-outfit over their gear, the idea being that it would keep their gear from snagging on anything parachute-related when they jumped.

Guess what? There's sort of a fly opening, but if you want to poop, you have to take off your entire uniform:

Platystemon posted:

Just Another Lurker posted:

I heard that NZ was relaxing things, what % over there are double vaxxed?

Bad Purchase posted:

It sounds really bad, but one thing I haven't been able to figure out is if this is common to a lot of infections that cause inflammation through the whole body, high fever, and a big immune response...

Beachcomber posted:

So we've been taking baby aspirin ever since early days. Good idea? Pointless?