Weatherdammerung 2024: I didn't expect it to get this weird and bad this soon

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dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Helith posted:

(looking at you Eucalypts)

Eucalypts are :black101:

as hell. "Just going to burn down my town so my kids can reign in the ashed wastelands after."

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-science-of-bushfires-is-settled-part-2- posted:

"In fact, natural selection has seemingly led to eucalypts actively cultivating fire because they now have very waxy, oily flammable leaves, which they are constantly shedding to accumulate beds of fire-fuelling litter at their base, and peeling bark that flies through the air as lit tapers to start new fires many kilometres ahead. The Blue Mountains west of Sydney are so-named because the oil in the eucalypts along the mountain range is constantly evaporating and creating a blue haze.

Eucalypts are essentially fire-fuelling incinerators that generate so much heat when they catch fire that when one burns its radiant heat evaporates the oils in the neighbouring eucalypts creating a flammable gas which ignites as a fireball, and so the crowns of the trees explode with fire one after the other, triggering a �crown fire��a wave of exploding eucalypt canopies that race through the Australian bush like a tornado.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 06:09

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 07:49

hifi: Jul 25, 2012

they planted poo poo tons of them in california and they turned out to be complete garbage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus#North_America

# ? Sep 30, 2021 06:38

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Growers are planting many acres of eucalyptus in Florida for pulpwood now that the huanglongbing bacterium has spread unchecked in the state and made it a citrus dead zone.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 06:53

Helith: Nov 5, 2009; Basket of Adorables

I look forward to seeing news reports of Florida�s fire season

So this happened in NSW today

https://twitter.com/bom_nsw/status/1443469273763037186?s=21

# ? Sep 30, 2021 08:58

Vesi: Jan 12, 2005; pikachu looking at?

hifi posted:

they planted poo poo tons of them in california and they turned out to be complete garbage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalyptus#North_America

portugal is full of that grey garbage too, it's basically the bitcoin of trees

# ? Sep 30, 2021 09:07

Helith: Nov 5, 2009; Basket of Adorables

Some footage of the tornado near Bathurst NSW today

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-30/nsw-tornado-injures-three-people-and-destroys-properties/100504728

# ? Sep 30, 2021 10:32

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

The fires are natural and we should let them happen because this one tree does good is the most boomer-brained wishful take on wild fires I could possibly imagine. Just hilarious. We still have thousands of homeless years later from the last fire, but because this tree is waxy it's all natural folks, just relax. The fires have always happened, just relax.

*I have not read the spectator before, but this is some funny poo poo, it's like a british version of the onion but for rich people:

spectator.co.uk posted:

The road haulage firms need to become accustomed to paying a decent rate for the job, to start with. Next, young people with the IQ of lichen must somehow be convinced that a salary of �70,000 per year is preferable to paying �30,000 to gain a pointless degree in gender studies at somewhere that once trained useless teachers and has now been dignified with the title �university�.And finally, they need to learn a whole gamut of skills to be an HGV driver: how to time their overtaking on a dual carriageway so that it coincides with an uphill gradient and therefore takes them 25 minutes to complete, thus ensuring the maximum inconvenience for a hundred cars behind them.

Pryor on Fire has issued a correction as of 13:34 on Sep 30, 2021

# ? Sep 30, 2021 13:19

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

dr_rat posted:

Eucalypts are as hell. "Just going to burn down my town so my kids can reign in the ashed wastelands after."

I told you I was hardcore...

# ? Sep 30, 2021 13:22

HashtagGirlboss: Jan 4, 2005

Laterite posted:

UPDATE: Woman Accused of Starting Fawn Fire Was Attempting To Boil Bear Urine to Drink

"Souverneva had been hiking to Canada on September 22 and was seen in the Mountain Gate community in Northern California, according to a narrative written by a Cal Fire officer. She was told she couldn�t be on the property by quarry employees, but kept walking.

She then became thirsty and found a puddle of water in a dry creek bed, but the water allegedly had bear urine in it so she tried to filter the water with a tea bag, the officer said.

�She said that didn�t work so she attempted to make a fire to boil the water. She stated it was too wet for the fire to start. She said she drank the water anyway and then continued walking uphill from the creek bed,� the complaint read.

Souverneva got stuck in brush and called the fire department, the complaint read. She was evaluated for dehydration and then questioned by Cal Fire authorities when she allegedly told them she tried to light a fire. Souverneva was taken into custody."

Yeah I�ve been paying attention to this one because my gut tells me they�re mostly just trying to pin it on this crazy woman as an easy scapegoat that�s not an electrical utility

# ? Sep 30, 2021 13:49

das hipster: Mar 7, 2005

Pryor on Fire posted:

The fires are natural and we should let them happen because this one tree does good is the most boomer-brained wishful take on wild fires I could possibly imagine. Just hilarious. We still have thousands of homeless years later from the last fire, but because this tree is waxy it's all natural folks, just relax. The fires have always happened, just relax.

*I have not read the spectator before, but this is some funny poo poo, it's like a british version of the onion but for rich people:

Username checks out...

Problem is, you can't stop forest fires from happening, and the longer you go between the greater the fuel load in the ground which means the hotter the fire, which means it will burn more and in a wider area due to the increased energy, which leads to self perpetuating fires from ember fall and lightning strikes from pyrocumulus clouds.

Regular fires keeps the amount of fuel on the ground in low so when a fire does start, there's less chance of it going out of control and if it does, there usually isn't enough fuel to create a big self sustaining blaze. They also become much easier to fight and extinguish, or failing that, easier to "steer" with controled burns and such away from populated areas.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 16:47

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

Stereotype posted:

Kilauea is erupting again

https://twitter.com/USGSVolcanoes/status/1443391528357957637?s=20

https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/summit-webcams

in the 1850s there was like a 10 square mile lava lake and it sounded super rad, I hope we get that again

# ? Sep 30, 2021 18:19

RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

no more loving hurricanes I guess huh?

# ? Sep 30, 2021 18:31

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Radirot posted:

no more loving hurricanes I guess huh?

Sam is still out in the mid-Atlantic as a Cat 4 but not much other than that

# ? Sep 30, 2021 18:36

Vernii: Dec 7, 2006

das hipster posted:

Username checks out...

Problem is, you can't stop forest fires from happening, and the longer you go between the greater the fuel load in the ground which means the hotter the fire, which means it will burn more and in a wider area due to the increased energy, which leads to self perpetuating fires from ember fall and lightning strikes from pyrocumulus clouds.

Regular fires keeps the amount of fuel on the ground in low so when a fire does start, there's less chance of it going out of control and if it does, there usually isn't enough fuel to create a big self sustaining blaze. They also become much easier to fight and extinguish, or failing that, easier to "steer" with controled burns and such away from populated areas.

To expand on this, in areas with normal, non-explosive trees, regular fires are also less destructive to the environment because they tend to be brush fires that clear up the forest floor rather than total incineration of thousands of miles of forest like we've been seeing in CA and OR.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 19:27

Chief McHeath: Apr 23, 2002

Also not enough raking.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 19:33

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Radirot posted:

no more loving hurricanes I guess huh?

still two more months of hurricane season left in the year

# ? Sep 30, 2021 20:21

Cat Wings: Oct 12, 2012

We have Victor but it looks like it'll just be a fish spinner as well.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 20:31

das hipster: Mar 7, 2005

Vernii posted:

To expand on this, in areas with normal, non-explosive trees, regular fires are also less destructive to the environment because they tend to be brush fires that clear up the forest floor rather than total incineration of thousands of miles of forest like we've been seeing in CA and OR.

That's a very good point. Most large trees can survive moderate fires, which allows for a much faster recovery. Once it gets hot enough to kill the trees though, recovery takes a very long time, and usually results in major environmental damage. Lack of ground cover to protect soils, and roots to retain it leads to greatly increased erosion, landslides, nutrient leeching, and a whole bunch of other ill effects.

# ? Sep 30, 2021 20:36

Wolfsbane: Jul 29, 2009; What time is it, Eccles?

Pryor on Fire posted:

I have not read the spectator before, but this is some funny poo poo, it's like a british version of the onion but for rich people

Unfortunately the Spectator is completely serious and extremely fascist. See, for example, their infamous article "in defence of the Wehrmacht".

# ? Oct 2, 2021 16:07

Laterite: Mar 14, 2007; It's Gutfest '89; Grimey Drawer

Chief McHeath posted:

Also not enough raking.

I mean, the way he said it was his typical word salad but his point was valid.

# ? Oct 2, 2021 16:21

Fuck You And Diebold: Sep 15, 2004; by Athanatos

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# ? Oct 3, 2021 18:12

stone soup: Jul 8, 2004

Pryor on Fire posted:

The fires are natural and we should let them happen because this one tree does good is the most boomer-brained wishful take on wild fires I could possibly imagine. Just hilarious. We still have thousands of homeless years later from the last fire, but because this tree is waxy it's all natural folks, just relax. The fires have always happened, just relax.

*I have not read the spectator before, but this is some funny poo poo, it's like a british version of the onion but for rich people:

latest crime pays botany doesnt episode is in south africa and touches on reproduction by fire (hope its time-stamped to 1:53)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6IaXr5ZHo&t=113s

dont rake and clean it; set it on fire!

# ? Oct 3, 2021 18:24

stone soup: Jul 8, 2004

iirc there was some specific wildfire that caused the u.s. forestry service to adopt a nation wide all-forest-fires-are-bad type of approach bc it killed a lot of (white) people and their property

# ? Oct 3, 2021 18:29

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

stone soup posted:

iirc there was some specific wildfire that caused the u.s. forestry service to adopt a nation wide all-forest-fires-are-bad type of approach bc it killed a lot of (white) people and their property

it was in wisconsin in the 1800s iirc some goon posted about it recently. started at exactly the same time as the chicago fire too lol

# ? Oct 3, 2021 22:07

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

wow that was in 1871
happy 150 years next week!

# ? Oct 3, 2021 22:09

BitcoinRockefeller: May 11, 2003; God gave me my money.; Hair Elf

Real hurthling! posted:

it was in wisconsin in the 1800s iirc some goon posted about it recently. started at exactly the same time as the chicago fire too lol

The Peshtigo Fire, a couple thousand dead on either side of Green bay.

# ? Oct 3, 2021 22:41

Wolfy: Jul 13, 2009

can someone repost the bo burnham weather tiktok i've been looking for it for like a day and i know one of you degenerates has it saved

# ? Oct 4, 2021 03:05

FistEnergy: Nov 3, 2000; DAY CREW: WORKING HARD; Fun Shoe

Wolfy posted:

can someone repost the bo burnham weather tiktok i've been looking for it for like a day and i know one of you degenerates has it saved

https://www.tiktok.com/@fruitydinobite/video/7003958882032766213

enjoy

# ? Oct 4, 2021 03:09

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

https://twitter.com/bhensonweather/status/1444369545657937921?s=19

:rubby:

# ? Oct 4, 2021 08:05

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

it would be pretty grand if changing weather patterns makes the middle east green (again?)

# ? Oct 4, 2021 08:15

Bulgakov: Mar 8, 2009; рукописи не горят

Stereotype posted:

Kilauea is erupting again

https://twitter.com/USGSVolcanoes/status/1443391528357957637?s=20

https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/summit-webcams

ive long wanted to see big wintertime waves at a beach in hawaii and also see some good erupting. ideally maybe I can surf a huge wave into a pool of lava and be done.

# ? Oct 4, 2021 08:42

blatman: May 10, 2009; 14 inc dont mez

Bulgakov posted:

ive long wanted to see big wintertime waves at a beach in hawaii and also see some good erupting. ideally maybe I can surf a huge wave into a pool of lava and be done.

if u plan it right maybe u can surf the ocean wave onto a converging lava wave and then up the volcano where u do a sick flip through all the noxious gasses

# ? Oct 4, 2021 10:15

Lyndon LaRouche: Sep 5, 2006; by Azathoth

Bulgakov posted:

maybe I can surf a huge wave into a pool of lava and be done.

You would be quite well done.

# ? Oct 4, 2021 10:57

HiHo ChiRho: Oct 23, 2010

Bulgakov posted:

ive long wanted to see big wintertime waves at a beach in hawaii and also see some good erupting. ideally maybe I can surf a huge wave into a pool of lava and be done.

Inshaloha

# ? Oct 4, 2021 11:25

wynott dunn: Aug 9, 2006; What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?