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A jargogle posted:My game crashed at the exact moment I hit exit after downloading Spamton. With the creepy blank shop music. It had never crashed for me prior to this. I had such a feeling of dread when loading the game up afterwards, I can't even. Are you running the latest version? iirc 1.00 had a crash issue with that screen if you pushed a certain button during that sequence.
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Impermanent posted:Asgore is more divorced than Dubois but only barely. Hard disagree on this. Dora moved halfway around the world, and not only did Harry track her down and get her number, he called her so many times he burned the entire international interchange into muscle memory, burying it so deep that not even alcohol oblivion could take it away from him. Now, it's possible that the incident that got Asgore dropped from the force was his violent beating of a public nuisance when they accidentally endangered Asgore's precious "blue heart". We don't have a definite timeline there, but I don't really see any foreshadowing pointing that way in particular.
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Oct 4, 2021 18:50
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Divorced Energy is different than Bad Breakup Energy smh
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Oct 4, 2021 18:51
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Fabricated posted:I'm interested to see what happens with Susie because we know less about her than we do Noelle, but her role so far seems to be Miss "just happy to be here" and it really strongly drives the events in the game. Susie is just loving stoked to be here and the tea stuff- if it means anything indicates she just loves everybody who manages to get past her walls. This would make sense, especially because she instantly gets along with Noelle's father - it's not like she's intimidated by adults in general.
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Not that the forums needs a starwalker emote, but if it had one, I'd want it to have the empty space before it, like  so
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Oct 4, 2021 19:12
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DanielCross posted:Sorry, I meant playthroughs or streams of other people playing through the game, who are carrying over their Chapter 1 data rather than starting fresh from Chapter 2. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1154544011
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Oct 4, 2021 19:12
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New theory for the Snowgrave route: Susie will not only be the final boss of the entire route, but she'll turn into Burning Susiezilla as a parallel to Undyne the Undying...probably without the threat of taking the entire world with her when she blows up, because that seems just a mote too depressing.
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Supersonic Shine posted:New theory for the Snowgrave route: Susie will not only be the final boss of the entire route, but she'll turn into Burning Susiezilla as a parallel to Undyne the Undying...probably without the threat of taking the entire world with her when she blows up, because that seems just a mote too depressing. So you want the roaring and snow to cover the world? Well, how about this... (Susie roars, her atomic breath melting the ice and snow in the area) Some other flavor text to reference the Demon Core/Tickling the dragons' tail also
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Ash Rose posted:Based on my friend Jade's chapter 2 playthrough. lightners and dankners
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Snowgrave stuff: apparently there's special dialogue if Kris gets KO'd during the Berdley fight    
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Oct 4, 2021 21:29
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A thing I realized last night re: snowgrave you are telling Noelle to use spells, rather than Kris ACTing her
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Oct 4, 2021 21:36
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The Bee posted:Kris isn't a man, though. O...Kay? Kris is "they", ie not fSusie. They are, however, 'anyone at all' and the person she goes out of her way to hang out with the most. Lord_Magmar posted:No Susie is pretty clearly into Noelle, or at least all the narrative language used around it is that Susie and Noelle are into eachother and just can't talk to eachother about it because teenagers and emotions. I just don't see it any more than how she acts with Kris or even ralsei at this point. Susie likes everyone, everyone likes susie. I don't see anything that makes it like, romantic like it is for Noelle (or Berdley). Abyssal Squid posted:Noelle is into Susie and Susie likes the attention but is oblivious to its meaning. You can headcanon Susie as lesbian or ace or anything and it's not (currently) contradicted by the text. Yeah that's what I was trying to get at. She just likes having friends at this point. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 4, 2021 |
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Sockser posted:A thing I realized last night re: snowgrave Yeah, after Kris gets KO'd, it becomes extremely obvious that you are talking with Noelle personally. Same with "You whispered Noelle's name..." at the end.
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Sockser posted:A thing I realized last night re: snowgrave I was gonna say this wasn't anything to note because the game text uses "you" for every action Kris takes, but then I looked up some side B stuff and noticed that at the end of the boss fight, the acts specifically say "Kris called for help. ...but nobody came," until the successful act instead says "you whispered Noelle's name." The you/Kris distinction only exists on that route, and there are a ton of hints that it's important.
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Oct 4, 2021 22:02
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Sockser posted:A thing I realized last night re: snowgrave
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Acerbatus posted:I just don't see it any more than how she acts with Kris or even ralsei at this point. Susie likes everyone, everyone likes susie. I don't see anything that makes it like, romantic like it is for Noelle (or Berdley). The Noelle's room/Ferris wheel scenes do have more of a romantic undertonei. She remembers the first time she met Noelle and has always been nice to (read: never picked on) her since then, she explicitly says she's comfortable in Noelle's company, and she wags her tail. She has never wagged her tail for Kris or Ralsei.
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Wait. She has a tail?? I could've sworn Noelle confirmed otherwise for me... Anyways I haven't done that so if that's the case, fair enough. I just get annoyed at how people can be like "two characters like spending time with each other they must be IN LOVE", it can be so shallow. Like Ralsei having a thing for Kris I could see, but there's nothing that indicates Kris likes Ralsei much so people that insist that it's totally canon are annoying. Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Oct 4, 2021 |
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Oct 4, 2021 22:08
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Also Susie seems quite insistent that she doesn’t (and if she did it’d probably be a small one kept hidden under her pants).
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Oct 4, 2021 22:13
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:The you/Kris distinction only exists on that route, and there are a ton of hints that it's important. That's not entirely true, though it's most explicit there. Kris viscerally hates interacting with Spamton from the first encounter, backing up from him three separate times just in his initial monologue. The shop dialogue drops a lot of hints that Kris is having a bad time, and then they have a panic attack when Susie talks about Spamton's puppet metaphor. Kris pretty clearly would have avoided all that if it were up to them.
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So, uh, has anyone hosed around with the shadowcrystal/glass from beating jevil and Spamton NEO yet? Someone said something about getting weird dialogue like twice, and never followed up
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Oct 4, 2021 22:17
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Acerbatus posted:Wait. I rest my case. Acerbatus posted:I could've sworn Noelle confirmed otherwise for me... It's their little secret. 
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Acerbatus posted:Anyways I haven't done that haven’t done what? the Ferris wheel scene? It’s impossible to miss unless you repeatedly tell Ralsei no when he asks if you want to check up on Susie
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Zamujasa posted:Are you running the latest version? iirc 1.00 had a crash issue with that screen if you pushed a certain button during that sequence. Ah yeah I figured that out after the fact - problem was I went complete radio blackout after downloading the game. I was just relaying the incident as it gave me the unique bad feeling of "Toby wouldn't do that again would he?"
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Abyssal Squid posted:That's not entirely true, though it's most explicit there. Kris viscerally hates interacting with Spamton from the first encounter, backing up from him three separate times just in his initial monologue. The shop dialogue drops a lot of hints that Kris is having a bad time, and then they have a panic attack when Susie talks about Spamton's puppet metaphor. Kris pretty clearly would have avoided all that if it were up to them. Oh I didn't mean to imply that Kris has no agency whatsoever, there's plenty of hints they have feelings about things that are happening and are unhappy with some actions you can take. What I'm referring to is that I don't think the menu text ever refers to Kris and you as separate entities. All of Kris' actions are like "you drank the hot chocolate," "you told Noelle to act smart," consistently referring to them as "you," except for Side B acts like "Kris called for help." There's plenty of story events that refer to Kris as their own person, but the gameplay elements do not make the distinction outside of Side B. Not entirely unlike the mirror message in Undertale changing from "It's you!" to "it's me" if you go down the bad time road, although with rather different implications.
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Abyssal Squid posted:That's not entirely true, though it's most explicit there. Kris viscerally hates interacting with Spamton from the first encounter, backing up from him three separate times just in his initial monologue. The shop dialogue drops a lot of hints that Kris is having a bad time, and then they have a panic attack when Susie talks about Spamton's puppet metaphor. Kris pretty clearly would have avoided all that if it were up to them. don't forget that spamton's shop is the only one that says "ESCAPE" instead of "EXIT" (if i remember correctly)
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Dr. Chainsaws PhD posted:don't forget that spamton's shop is the only one that says "ESCAPE" instead of "EXIT" (if i remember correctly) Yeah, but it's easy to write off since Spamton's whole shop interface is kinda hosed up.
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Hot new Deltarune theory: Spamton used to be normal sized but got dunked in the acid by Swatch    src
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Procrastine posted:Hot new Deltarune theory: Spamton used to be normal sized but got dunked in the acid by Swatch So he was literally Joker-fied? 
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:So he was literally Joker-fied? he was unfortunately left in the jokerifier a little too long
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Finally got to play Chapter 1 and 2 again thanks to the switch release (RIP laptop) and boy oh boy is there so much to unpack from this game. was I the only one who was really disconcerted by Ralsei clipping out of bounds after the Spamton Neo fight? I tried to see if it was a border thing that I could step into as well but nope, Susie pushes him right out of bounds and no one seems to care. Like I was giving him the benefit of the doubt for most of the game (even hugged him in the boat ride) but when Susie of all people is connecting with you more in this case and you get hugged and told to ignore everything that just happened… I don’t like that… and when you go back with that knowledge and start to see patterns of manipulation I really feel uneasy about the fluffy boy now. Also by the end of chapter two his niceness (I think that’s the stat) is decreasing making me also go what the hell also Side B/snowgrave has peaked my interest in a way I haven’t felt in a game in a long time. I’m as flowey said a sicko that likes to watch but too weak to do it but the story and lines of thought that scenario brings up is just so intriguing. On top of that with 5 more chapters this could cause so many more possible branches it’s amazing to think of how he’s gonna cover it all. Hoping that this doesn’t put Toby in corner story wise that we end up with a Mass Effect 3 ending. I know that Toby is much better at this then EA but the concern is there that he could do something like that or burn out from all the options Really want chapter three now… 
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I NOTICED THAT TOO AND WONDERED WHY NO ONE MENTIONED IT, granted it's a small thing next to ALL THESE OTHER THINGS in the game but yeah. That made me double take. When Ralsei stepped off the path, I mean.
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I think I assumed that was a bug, or a joke like Toby running you over in that one area
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I assume Ralsei lost a single point of niceness because Susie taught him sarcasm.
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A joke? Maybe. Not a bug though. Character actions in cutscenes are totally scripted. Toby explicitly had him step into negative space. Considering the overall seriousness of the scene, it also doesn't really read as a joke. But it also doesn't mean anything that I can tell.
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It's because Ralsei is Gaster
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ikanreed posted:A joke? Maybe. Not a bug though. Character actions in cutscenes are totally scripted. It's definitely intended. If he needed a wider space the area itself could have been expanded to avoid Ralsei noclipping. Course we have no idea what that means in the grand scheme of things at the moment.
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ikanreed posted:A joke? Maybe. Not a bug though. Character actions in cutscenes are totally scripted. But that’s where I’m getting at here. Kris is super distraught from this fight. Goosebumps present, screaming, super upset and Susie is empathizing with you over this (which made me like her even more). Then Ralsie comes over, gives you a hug which is nice but then tells you to forget about it as if killing someone that yearned for freedom (inadvertently no less in the pacifist run) is no big deal. It’s just so off…
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YggiDee posted:I assume Ralsei lost a single point of niceness because Susie taught him sarcasm.  It's technically two different stats being shown (Kindness 100 vs. Sweetness 97), but I do assume learning sarcasm influenced him.
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